12.09.2005

In Memoriam Of

In lieu of posting another Blog that is being prepared, I thought it only fitting that we dedicate this Blog to the people who worked at Goldstone Deep Space Communication Complex at Fort Irwin who were killed so tragically yesterday... and to those who died exactly one year prior. Our condolences go to their families and colleagues in this, their hour of grief.

We busy ourselves here with seeking after knowledge and Truth in relation to scientific endeavor and exploration. We study and expound on the works of the great names associated in these fields, we ponder about their lives and their motivations and, for some, we elevate them in our thinking to a status far above that of every-day humans, oft-times to the level of worship. How often, though, do the people who worked behind the scenes go unmentioned, their work gone unremarked upon...yet who knows that their labors chisled the bedrock which became the foundation of great theories and learning.

As I read the names of those souls lost, I see none I recognize. I know not what function they served or if their contributions will ever gain honorable mention in the annals of science. But I do imagine that they spent anxious hours at some task and that they took pride in what they did, knowing that it served to add to a grand body of knowledge with an even grander and noble purpose.

May they be remembered with honor and with love and with our thanks.

292 Comments:

Blogger zebowho said...

I'd have to agree with you SunKing, there are many who go unknown...well said!

-z

12/09/2005 07:14:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

tnx, Zebo.

12/09/2005 07:20:00 PM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

Indeed, well said sunking.

12/09/2005 07:28:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Catch me up a bit.. I have never heard of Goldstone or what they are about.. At least a bit of legacy on the point will be in order.

12/09/2005 07:36:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Point made, eric. Perhaps Bohemia can 'illuminate' us on this subject. I gather they are part of JPL and being a Deep Space Comms place, no doubt keep track of satellites and such. I think Bohemia mentioned that they were coordinating with Jaxa on the Hayabasa mission.

12/09/2005 07:44:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I'm compelled to reprint the whole article by Madsen.. it tolls for you....


Internet Censorship: The Warning Signs Were Not Hidden

The warning signs for the crackdown on the web have been with us for over a decade. The Clipper chip controversy of the 90s, John Poindexter’s Total Information Awareness (TIA) system pushed in the aftermath of 9-11, backroom deals between the Federal government and the Internet service industry, and the Patriot Act have ushered in a new era of Internet censorship, something just half a decade ago computer programmers averred was impossible given the nature of the web. They were wrong, dead wrong.

Take for example of what recently occurred when two journalists were taking on the phone about a story that appeared on Google News. The story was about a Christian fundamentalist move in Congress to use U.S. military force in Sudan to end genocide in Darfur. The story appeared on the English Google News site in Qatar. But the very same Google News site when accessed simultaneously in Washington, DC failed to show the article. This censorship is accomplished by geolocation filtering: the restriction or modifying of web content based on the geographical region of the user. In addition to countries, such filtering can now be implemented for states, cities, and even individual IP addresses.

With reports in the Swedish newspaper Svensa Dagbladet today that the United States has transmitted a Homeland Security Department "no fly" list of 80,000 suspected terrorists to airport authorities around the world, it is not unreasonable that a "no [or restricted] surfing/emailing" list has been transmitted to Internet Service Providers around the world. The systematic disruptions of web sites and email strongly suggests that such a list exists.

News reports on CIA prisoner flights and secret prisons are disappearing from Google and other search engines like Alltheweb as fast as they appear. Here now, gone tomorrow is the name of the game.

Google is systematically failing to list and link to articles that contain explosive information about the Bush administration, the war in Iraq, Al Qaeda, and U.S. political scandals. But Google is not alone in working closely to stifle Internet discourse. America On Line, Microsoft, Yahoo and others are slowly turning the Internet into an information superhighway dominated by barricades, toll booths, off-ramps that lead to dead ends, choke points, and security checks.

America On Line is the most egregious is stifling Internet freedom. A former AOL employee noted how AOL and other Internet Service Providers cooperate with the Bush administration in censoring email. The Patriot Act gave federal agencies the power to review information to the packet level and AOL was directed by agencies like the FBI to do more than sniff the subject line. The AOL term of service (TOS) has gradually been expanded to grant AOL virtually universal power regarding information. Many AOL users are likely unaware of the elastic clause, which says they will be bound by the current TOS and any TOS revisions which AOL may elect at any time in the future. Essentially, AOL users once agreed to allow the censorship and non-delivery of their email.

Microsoft has similar requirements for Hotmail as do Yahoo and Google for their respective e-mail services.

There are also many cases of Google’s search engine failing to list and link to certain information. According to a number of web site administrators who carry anti-Bush political content, this situation has become more pronounced in the last month. In addition, many web site administrators are reporting a dramatic drop-off in hits to their sites, according to their web statistic analyzers. Adding to their woes is the frequency at which spam viruses are being spoofed as coming from their web site addresses.

Government disruption of the political side of the web can easily be hidden amid hyped mainstream news media reports of the latest "boutique" viruses and worms, reports that have more to do with the sales of anti-virus software and services than actual long-term disruption of banks, utilities, or airlines.



Internet Censorship in the US: No Longer a Prediction

Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, and Cisco Systems have honed their skills at Internet censorship for years in places like China, Jordan, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Vietnam, and other countries. They have learned well. They will be the last to admit they have imported their censorship skills into the United States at the behest of the Bush regime. Last year, the Bush-Cheney campaign blocked international access to its web site -- www.georgewbush.com -- for unspecified "security reasons."

Only those in the Federal bureaucracy and the companies involved are in a position to know what deals have been made and how extensive Internet censorship has become. They owe full disclosure to their customers and their fellow citizens.


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12/09/2005 08:01:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Cool, lucky number 7. (I hope)

12/09/2005 08:07:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

hmmmm...I see what ya mean, eric.
And do you think we're a likely target?

U will tell you we get nowhere NEAR the "million' hits that RCH boasted about...not surprised at that, but not that many...250-300 a day.

12/09/2005 08:17:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

I'm outta here....finally get to leave the office...I'm heading home! I will check in over the weekend...if I can stand to look at another computer, after THIS week!

Peace, y'all.

12/09/2005 08:22:00 PM  
Anonymous 371 Bohemia said...

Hi,

SunKing ... many thanks for the thoughful and touching new blog topic. Thanks for mentioning the contributions of the "little people" behind the scenes.

For every technological breakthrough or discovery, hundreds to thousands of individuals unite and focus on the success of seemingly impossible projects. Only mentioned are the top principal investigators, scientists, and project managers. Unmentioned are the behind-the-scenes people: the computer operators, satellite trackers, communications engineers, and numerous others. Like the grounds-crew that maintain the football and baseball fields, the janitors who clean offices at night, their roles, and the roles of many are often unnoticed. Only when things malfunction (an unkempt field, dirty office, or failed mission), is when the roles of the hidden people become recognized.

To answer "ericswan":
ericswan said...

Catch me up a bit.. I have never heard of Goldstone or what they are about.. At least a bit of legacy on the point will be in order.

12/09/2005 07:36:08 PM

Information about the Goldstone facility can be found here:

Goldstone Virtual Tour

The Goldstone facility played an important role in assisting JAXA in tracking Hayabusa as evidenced in this article. Other information be found via a Google search on the terms: Goldstone Hayabusa.

If there are any other questions, I would be happy to try to answer them.

=-=-=-=

SunKing, we are waiting permission to release more information on the 3 deceased. Will post if that information becomes available.

Again, many thanks and highest and sincerest compliments!

---
371 Bohemia

12/09/2005 08:30:00 PM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

nice job as always sunking :)

12/09/2005 08:42:00 PM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

did everyone make it over to the new blog?

12/09/2005 08:44:00 PM  
Blogger unipax said...

Nice, how thoughtful, Sunking. Thank you.
uni

12/09/2005 08:48:00 PM  
Blogger unipax said...

Re art bell, george noory, rch, etc etc.
Someone said it well, that we have no idea of the pressures they may be under.
They all seemed to be for truth and justice at first. I'm not surprised if that they seem to compromise, dumbing it down. Knowing their original attitudes suggests to me that their shift is not of their own choosing. They have to cooperate or be shut down, replaced. Bless their hearts for hanging in there doing whatever they can.
uni

12/09/2005 08:59:00 PM  
Blogger Sword said...

Sword drops in…

Gort said...
With all the snow we've had this week,
... What fun it is to laugh and sing a slaying song tonight!

Sword:
“Slaying”? – Arrrrr you a pirate?
Don’t you mean – Sleighing?


John said...
I just heard 2 gongs a few seconds before 3:33pm

Sword:
That means your pizza is ready to take out of the oven…


Sword

12/09/2005 09:17:00 PM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

I'm not totally sure of the stories accuracy but it seems to fit the profile.

It's just a goddamned piece of paper

I'm starting to feel like this guy won't want to leave come January of '08.

12/09/2005 09:27:00 PM  
Blogger DCAG said...

Great post SunKing.
There seems to be so much disinfo out there that it seems near impossible to sort the facts from fiction. We have to question everything, everyone - which could leave us spinning around in circles for years to come. The dots can only be connected once the facts are known. And yet, it is impossible for me with my limited knowledge to disprove, prove this stuff. I have to rely somewhat on my gut feelings, but that doesn’t seem to help too much because there are so many plausible ideas, theories out there. Sometimes I wonder if it’s so in our face we are missing it completely and/or not understanding exactly what we are seeing. (can’t see the forest for the trees) I look forward to reading your blogs; many of you have contributed a heck of lot in de-confusing some of this stuff. I hope you continue to post to maintain this site. Perhaps the energy created here is helping more than we all know. Wishing you all health and safety in these troubling times.
The “Truth” is out there === somewhere

12/09/2005 09:30:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

bubba hyde said;
I'm starting to feel like this guy won't want to leave come January of '08.

12/09/2005 09:27:59 PM

Ah bubba, don't go there. That's even scarier than the Scientology Scary shit link that went around.

tacodog said;
"Sometimes I wonder if it’s so in our face we are missing it completely and/or not understanding exactly what we are seeing. "

A lot of stuff is hidden in plain sight. We've been through that a few times. You are part of the club now. :)


Beautiful blue sky here on my part of the rock. It was wonderful to see the sky cloud and trail free. The stars were very bright on a mostly clear night. And the temperature has hovered at 32* for at least 3 hours tonight. Very weird weather, very weird. It is getting hard to remember what is normal, if such a thing exists. Staying tuned.


ms t,
Your experience was really interesting, especially the way you each went to a different place on the opposite ends of fear. I have been dreaming a lot lately. Almost every night, and usually I can not remember once I wake up. The first thing my mind does is take off on whatever project I am currently working on. I do want to recall the dreams, and if I try to recall after I am awake, I usually draw a blank. "What A Long, Strange Trip It's Been" GD, seems to work for me right now.

Wayne

12/09/2005 10:06:00 PM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

Hey Wayne,
I got a great pic of a cloud that has metallic in it for sure. Lights up like a "piece" of a rainbow. I can't seem to get the pics to load on my blog. I have been very frustated with that because I want to share. I look at your pics alot.

Ms. T

12/09/2005 10:21:00 PM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

i'm stuck!!! in cyberspace...lol

12/09/2005 10:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sunking, good post. Bohemia thanks for your links to the stories regarding the crash.
Very sad situation. I used to live in the high desert and drove between Victorville and
Lancaster frequently. The hotshot, high risk passing manuevers on those desert roads are
ridiculous. Two cars pulling out at the same time to pass occurs pretty often and is
another danger of passing. Did the truck driver not see anything, or did he just decide
not to stop I wonder. Crosses and flowers dot the landscape on 395 and other desert roads
because people didn't drive safely. Very sad situation.

Toad said...
Hello crew... ...It was Tuesday morning when I looked up in the sky and saw a clould shaped like what I believe to be Osiris sitting on his throne and facing the west. This cloud was kind of darkish grey and elongated which stood out since other clouds were a dimly light blue
A few possibilities, perhaps it was a cloud formed by an entity to communicate something, like cropcircles might be.
(Although I've wondered if the complex ones are now being done by satellites) I think if it really looked like
a different cloud type AND color in comparison to the clouds in the sky, then you do have a mystery. Do you remember what you were thinking about when you first saw it? Perhaps thats somehow important. Anyhow if u can rule
out that it was just an average cloud and your mind connected the dots (and if u can rule out jas's fine, tropically carressed ganja, or other mind alterers) then u do have a mystery. Good luck.

Bubba the story of George Hanson, if true as it is presented is a dark one. The hope from
me is that we're coming to the end of the reign of corruption and the beginning of enlightenment.
That I hadn't read or heard that story isn't encouraging either. News too busy reporting the new
x-box sales i suppose.

It's not gonna happen fast enough, but I think some symbolic things are going to happen soon,
hopefully they will move us forward. The level of difficulty of the next few decades is what I don't know.
I expect the old guard to be changed out for one that is more enlightened. How messy that transference
will be is an open question.

Crypto your take on the eggs is interesting. It would be good to see the why. Since they're not offering
that, and since they are Princeton, we should be watching for the tone of their 'science' closely.
I think you're right to be skeptical of their intentions.
If it starts to look like a tool for the elites, we could hijack the eggs, they will be a great deal
easier to hijack than the starship.

12/09/2005 10:59:00 PM  
Blogger Sword said...

I expect the old guard to be changed out for one that is more enlightened. How messy that transference
will be is an open question.

An "anana" said thus...

And then Sword says - three sheets to the wind:

You don't know how close to the truth you are my brother.

Sword

12/09/2005 11:02:00 PM  
Blogger bryansail said...

That wasn't a troll, twas me. -Bryan

12/09/2005 11:04:00 PM  
Blogger Sword said...

ARRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Then leave a call sign you goober!
:-)
:-x

Sword

12/09/2005 11:11:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Hi guys/gals...

I've been wondering what might happen tomorrow, and I've got a very disturbing hypothesis. Yesterday, I heard that they stopped an Egyptian man at an airport, because his shoes tested positive for explosive residue. They let him go, to my surprise. Later, I heard that there was an APB out for him (no surprise there). I heard today that they caught him, but let him go AGAIN, because this time, his shoes tested negative for explosive residue (which he could easiliy have washed off). This is making me wonder if there MIGHT, I stress MIGHT, be a terrorist attack tomorrow. Just to reiterate, I'm NOT saying there WILL be one, but the POSSIBILITY exists...

33 minutes to go...

John

12/09/2005 11:28:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Wow, lotta gongs going on (3 in under 5 seconds, and earlier, 4 in under 10 seconds)...

12/09/2005 11:31:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Does anyone find it odd that SOHO's still got that CCD bakeout?

12/09/2005 11:37:00 PM  
Blogger Sword said...

I find it odd the number of individual posts you make....

Sword

12/09/2005 11:40:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

It's mainly because I just think of stuff that's important.

20 minutes left...

John

12/09/2005 11:41:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

I wonder if we'll notice anything as soon as it turns 12am...

12/09/2005 11:42:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

2 minutes to go

12/09/2005 11:58:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

1 minute

12/09/2005 11:59:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

It's midnight, and I don't feel any different...

12/10/2005 12:00:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

And again I get the 33rd comment

12/10/2005 12:10:00 AM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Wow, simply amazing what a defrag can do for speeding up my blog loads. ;)

Ms.T, I found you accounting of last nights even very profound and possibly prophetic. I am guessing that you have never experienced anything like this before?! What an incredible vision and how wonderful that you are able to share it with us. We need to spread its message everywhere we go.

TRUTH, LIGHT, LOVE

12/10/2005 01:18:00 AM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

How are the eggs, John?

12/10/2005 01:27:00 AM  
Blogger Sword said...

Songs of note...
By Sword - currently three sheets to the four winds - - - 33rd - respect

The Misfits - Where Eagles Dare
20k feet - its cold as hell when frozen over. Mission: Save a boatload of saliors.
Do you remeber men? The day we saved them? The day I played this song across all the bands, even norad heard our cry! The day of glory? The day we fell in the drink beacuse of the wind in our wings? The day a burley man in a flying elephant came to save us as well? The day we all hudled on a floating ice cube? I can't seem to get it out of my mind as of late. I still shiver uncontolabley so days. We all where saved by the holy father that day. We all came together as a team that day.

Social Distortion - Reach for the sky...
The lyrics speak for themsleves - we are not done yet - the time is nigh - its time to reach, truely, to reach for the sky. We know our destiney, I brought us this far, its time for the "El Final". Shall we reach this glorious moment adn return complete in our numbers? This much is not up to us, only the graces of our holy father, his sol and our soul...

The ballad of the Green Beret
Nuff said... ...

Neil Young - Old Man
I love you father. Walking in your footprints is not so easy these days... ...
I cant seem to see the mirror without seeing your reflection and it startles me.

Journey - Wheel in the Sky/Rage - Street fightinng man
Men, do you remember how we sang? How the base commander so scorned our hi-jinks? How we lost on pourpose just to prove them wrong? How we made an entire division, the 6ID - take notice - they all wanted to be in our boots - but none could make measure like us, now could they.

Oh, how I ramble, so publically.
Can not all my superiors and peers see its time to send me back?
These civillians - they are "sheep people" - they do not listen, they love little and hate much.
They worship money though they not know the dangers of greed.
Take me home country road - take me home.


Sword

12/10/2005 02:31:00 AM  
Blogger bryansail said...

laughing at this gem of an understatement

Sword said... (to John)
I find it odd the number of individual posts you make.... lol, still laughing at that,
then it's followed up with an onslaught!

John u keep getting the 33rd, I've been eyeing those juicy post numbers for
a long time and keep missing them. I failed miserably so far trying to get
333 a few times. ...From the looks of your posts John we'll be at 333 in
about 25 minutes. Just kiddin around w/ u.

I think the 10th might be a little more subtle than what u expected?

To Ms. T, I agree with krazyby4kids, thanx for sharing that mystical experience, sounds
amazing. I would like to be able to ramp up my own dreaming experiences.

So glad to see some feminine power here now. Excellent!
-Bryan (in case I mess up again with blogger display name!)

12/10/2005 02:32:00 AM  
Blogger bryansail said...

Might it be that this winter, the haarp players are going to
be plunging the arctic air deep into the belly of the U.S. ?

Understanding well that weather systems are continually becoming
more unpredictable and topsy turvy of late, how would we be able
to see it? Heating oil money to be made. Help us if arctic
storms are going to be assisted in plunging deep into the south.

Forecast for the winter (with or without manipulation)
looks to be extreme. I remember a couple of years back in
Minnesota 10 of the 12 months of the year were record breakers
in one way or another (most precipitation, highest avg. temp.)
-Bryan Sword what's your drink for the night?
remember beer liquor never sicker, liquor beer never fear
And ahhh lets see, the holiday spirit is not what you drink (I'll drink to that)

12/10/2005 02:48:00 AM  
Blogger Dr. John said...

starshipconstellation said...

>I've listened to C2C for about three and a half years now, I guess about the time George Noory went full time.<
I've been listening since the mid-90's. The show has changed!! The thing that I miss is the full 5 hours. More was discussed indepth. The discussions now barely scratch anything and the first half hour to an hour of repeat guest is same old same old. I can miss it or tune in late and not miss a thing.

>One of the things that has troubled me of late is that there seems to be a dumbing down of the show except when Linda Moulton Howe is on.<
I find that the case though especially with Linda Moulton Howe over the years. She just has always struck me funny and I think it has to do with the style of her presentations. She always, to me, misses key aspects that she should follow up on. George Noory, I've listen to on KTRS 550AM before he was even considered for C2C. When Art first went on hiatus I thought George would have been good. He was doing similar type programming in the hour before Coast went on. His over all style though has slipped. When he first started C2C, his questioning refelected a learning curve so 'dumb' questions were a must. But with the cycling of guests he has maintained this as if their is a big turn over in audience. I understand some backtracking because the listening audience is expanding but then why push the archives (missed opportunuity here).

>The other thing about C2C is that I have a hard time reconciling its existence on Clear Channel whose neocon views are well known. The paranormal usually flies in the face of your average conservative with young John being our honoured exception.
On CC, those views mean nothing!! They are a business and it is about the bottom line. Both are selling advertizing. Also don't be too quick to paint the brush about conservatives either. Paranormal knows no boundary. The two don't go hand in hand. Too many shades of grey here. Besides depending on the issue(s) I can make little John look like the biggest liberal, fasist, etc. on the planet. :)

>I don't hear the hosts really asking tough questions anymore that might elict really good and rewarding answers or to expose those who are obvious disinfo types like the guy Ian Punnett interviewed about Crop Circles. GN almost fawns over every guest now, to the point where it's really embarrassing.

>If it's an Open Lines night....
This is where Art Bell excelled. George definitly needs work here. The first thing Norry should do is LOSE the call screener. This makes his open lines seem scripted.

>I swear Clear Channel has crammed even more commercials into the show...
Be interesting to time on-air time in past shows compared to now. Its still top and bottom of the hour breaks but I'm unsure about the duration. But a lot has to do, to me like I said earlier, on the show being being shorter that when Art was doing it. Art even went to this shorter format when his back was bothering him If I recall correctly.

> GN may be under pressures we don't know about, and he seems like a nice guy but he's changed.
He newness has worn on C2C. But he has changed even from when he was at KTRS. He seems now too much like a lap dog. What I mean is that he is too quickly to beleive at times a story and not ask a probing question. The diversty of the guests and topics that can make him seem like he'll buy anything. He need to be more discreet in his comments so that we as an audience don't know where he stands. This will make the guest less at ease then they are now, but would be benefical in that the questioning can lead to more information. This would then help the audience to come to their own conclusion on whether or not the guest is on the up and up.

>The other thing that caused me to stop listening to Art was it seemed like every time I was actually up late enough to hear it live, he'd have Ed Dames on...
With Art being limited in air time he is only going to have the guest he likes. But that's his call. Yes, he has changed. One aspect everyone should remember is that the more we listen to George, more we have adapted to the direction he has taken C2C in. This can make Art's style seem strange though a lot of us have listen to him longer. Has somebody gotten to these people? Dont' know.

>I think gradually C2C is going to get watered down...I'm also worried that RCH is in danger to succumbing to the marketplace...<
I think that Richard is trying to do too much. I think that he thinks in order to stay relevant he must jump from subject to subject. This is bad because he risks over exposing himself so that his crediblity suffers. Like with your reference to his peddling of his DVDs. People hear that instead of the connection(s) he is trying to make. Thus makes the audience see him more a 'Johnny come lately' on these issues. Not that he is but it like the little kid down the street that is me too, me too. Not to pick on RCH here, other frequent guests of George's have a similar feel in this way, too. This trend has helps give C2C the feel of being watered down.

>Sorry this is so long, but this is what I've been feeling about the last few months of listening to C2C.
Not a problem. My response is just as wordy. I could go on more, too.

Oh, one more thing for all to ponder especially those that are long time listeners to C2C. With all the take about what's up with Richard and the "has somebosy gotten to Art or George", does anybody see a difference in Richard from before his heart trouble in Miami and after. Yes, I know a big stretch for the ol' memory. Don't know myself, but its something I've began to wonder about.

12/10/2005 03:47:00 AM  
Blogger Dr. John said...

John said...

>Yesterday, I heard that they stopped an Egyptian man at an airport, because his shoes tested positive for explosive residue...because this time, his shoes tested negative for explosive residue (which he could easiliy have washed off).<

John, don't know much do you? Just because the test was postitive that doeas not mean anything. I don't work with 'explosives' but have been question, swabbed, etc...because of my field when passing through airports. This has been before and after 9/11. The checks are that complex. Lots of chemicals can have similar reactions because they have similar composition. On of my friends who is a landscaper was stopped once. Why? His boots hit postive. What in his work environment is related to explosives?

You need to calm down. Your going to be bummed when nothing happens. Besides its cheating to multiple post your way to message numbers of your choice. Takes the fun out of it.

Oh yeah, figure out what the difference between caraway and spearmint yet? I ask a long while back and you've been quiet.

12/10/2005 04:02:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

Anonymous said...
>Crypto your take on the eggs is interesting. It would be good to see the why. Since they're not offering
that, and since they are Princeton, we should be watching for the tone of their 'science' closely.
I think you're right to be skeptical of their intentions.
If it starts to look like a tool for the elites, we could hijack the eggs, they will be a great deal
easier to hijack than the starship.<

It was a case of having sit-down time to catch up and Blog ... then seeing the Princeton Eggs mentioned. I am glad I was called on my rant, because for some reason the Princeton Eggs strikes me as something dark and sinister. It could be they're trying to learn about the power of prayer - something that SHOULD be looked into, if only it were profitable enough. I don't know why it gets me so wound up - know thyself was the advice of Jesus and I am guilty of not following through on that. Jesus might also have said, "May he who is without sin cast the first stone".

I'm glad to see people who think about science discussing the greatest moral philsopher of all time - in fact it's uplifting. I know people who are pro-Trinity, based on memorizing the Nicene or Apostles Creed, but they've never read about the Teachings of Jesus. Would their prayer be stronger or more effective than mine because I am anti-Trinity but I think I've read everything Jesus ever said and the only way to learn more is to hear how those teachings have affected and taught or guided others. It might sound like a self-righteous or facetious question, but the fact that I am not in phase with an organized religion might affect my propensity to heal one way or the other. If I could see past the Trinity and divinity issue, I might make a good addition to a congregation someday. Organized religion (pros and cons) are more a question for wayne5 and Jas to articulate.

Dec 10 might be the day that Jason finds out who his real friends are, and who has been hanging around till Dec 10 just to put him on the spot. Maybe Dec 10 is the day Jas' great tribulation of leaving the Church is officially exorcised and we all turn the corner together and start up a Blog that sweeps the globe and changes the world for the better ! I think Dec 10 is a special day for our wind-surfing warrior jasgrave333 ... and we should give him some space to reflect on the parable or metaphor he has been given (sometimes nature speaks directly to her student).

I raced out to get orajel because my 5 month old is teething, I get home and my 5yr old boy is crying because his ear hurts (took off his hat on a damp windy day) so I ran out again for ear-drops. Now they're both asleep and I'm gonna have a Sir Bob Cigaweed in honour of ya Jas <=======>

12/10/2005 04:16:00 AM  
Blogger DCAG said...

Dr. John:
I think Art Bell started to change when he ran into problems regarding his son. Shortly thereafter, his back started to affect him. Now, his mind is closed to a lot of things he used to be opened to listen too. GN, well, I had to get used to him - I think the show has been watered down intellectually. Also, Ed Dames has a bit of history with his first organization, I think he is truly a disinfo person. For the "accuracy" of remote viewing, he sure is "off" and provides us with a lot of excuses. I don't know why they keep having him on. As for RCH - GN seemed to get irritated with him at first, then all of a sudden he becomes his science tech - a lot of strange things going on there.
In agreeance with a lot of what you have posted.

12/10/2005 04:21:00 AM  
Blogger DCAG said...

Crypt0:
Hope the kids feel better in the morning.
Sure has been quiet here tonight. Eerily so.

12/10/2005 04:26:00 AM  
Blogger Dr. John said...

Sword interesting music choices. Only one that I liked, though haven't heard a couple. Hope those who your talking to appreciate your words. I'm surprised you did not list a certain Irish aire or would that have been to personal because I find it unlikely that you or your unit not have heard it in light of it's lyrics.

Here's a couple a friend has enjoyed as part of his world tour in the last several years. (Lyrics are parapharsed)

Queen - Hammer To Fall

'Here we stand or here we fall, History won't care at all, Make the bed light the light, Lady Mercy won't be home tonight yeah.....Toe your line and play their game yeah, Let the anaesthetic cover it all, Till one day they call your name, You know it's time for the hammer to fall...For your truth it's all the same...For we who grew up tall and proud, In the shadow of the mushroom cloud, Convinced our voices can't be heard, We just wanna scream it louder and louder louder, What the hell we fighting for?, Just surrender and it won't hurt at all, You just got time to say your prayers, While your waiting for the hammer to hammer to fall...'

O.A.R - That Was A Crazy Game Of Poker

'Who's up for game two, what to do, my wallet's gettin thin, and I just lost my watch last night, well I gotta problem, just one answer, gotta throw it all down, and kiss it goodbye...That was a crazy game of poker, I lost it all, but someday I'll be back again, And I, never to fold...And I walked into the bar yesterday, Cause I had something to do, something to say, And Johnny walked in right behind me and I didn't turn around, Til I heard the sound of his feet falling on the ground, I looked over my shoulder and I saw a clown, And I said what'cha doin' in the bar tonight., So I said Johnny whatcha doing tonight?, He looked at me with a face full of fright, And I said, how bout a revolution?'

12/10/2005 04:31:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

Sure has been quiet here tonight. Eerily so.

You think it's quiet here? Over on the Enterprise Mission forum we have just gone over ONE WHOLE day without anyone posting anything !!
(and that is a PAY forum !!)

What about someone selecting a Topic?
The Bible:
A.Use as Landfill
B.Toilet Paper
C.Fireplace fuel
D.Other

12/10/2005 04:46:00 AM  
Blogger Dr. John said...

tacodog said...

>I think Art Bell started to change when he ran into problems regarding his son.<
That and how some guests began prying with their talents in order woo the audience. This becasue of the personal nature of the other combined with the later this left Art with a bad taste in his mouth. And I don't blame him. Unfortunately, yes, this has seemly closed his mind on some issues.

>GN, well, I had to get used to him - I think the show has been watered down intellectually.<
George had a better style before hand. It hard to discribe. His program then was two parts. More mainstream early in his program and then the last part C2C type content and he called himself the Nighthawk (I miss those bumpers). I forget the name of the other replacement for Art before George but he was a bore, so...

>Also, Ed Dames...<
I was just saying Art picks them. I avoided saying anything about Ed just because he is not worth the effort unless it tuning to another channel.

>As for RCH - GN seemed to get irritated with him at first, then all of a sudden he becomes his science tech - a lot of strange things going on there.<
True. If GN needs an advisor he should find someone else. Not meant to censor RCH but to have a different slant that help explain some more technical type issues rather than give commentary.

>In agreeance with a lot of what you have posted.<
Thanks

12/10/2005 04:52:00 AM  
Blogger DCAG said...

I am usually just a lurker, but its been so quiet here, nothing to lurk over. I'm surprised nil postings at the TEM forum. Wow
word: ltjtdle = idle

12/10/2005 04:55:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

Dr John said lots of interesting stuff ! Always a pleasure to see i am not alone in my misgivings about C2C-AM, which I had hoped might become a power-to-the-people kind of show, with a dissertation every night.

Linda Moulton Howe knows how to do a story about what is being revealed, but rarely follows through on what is being withheld or concealed. She presents what the presenter wants presented and does it well, but the overall trend in media these days is to think on the supply-side and treat demand as a great beast. She was a Producer and Producers are supply side. George was a TV Prducer as well. When LMH presented the panspermia guy with the 'secret PhD', she believed his story because she met his mother - George Noory wasn't buying it and if & when George decides to act for the demand-side or the listener (instead of not rocking the boat) C2C-AM can make for great radio ! The host is supposed to bring supply into the Great Hall of listeners - DEMAND - but instead, we are a microphone and the Host seems to be steam-rollered by a parade of guests - many of whom seem to feed off one another. I'd like to hear George Noory interview someone who could give him a ley of the land vis-a-vis Psy-Ops and just how methodical and extensive their reach IS ... then turn his new found knowledge against future guests.

Paranormal is MEANT to incite the fundamentalists - I think of my own reaction to Princeton Eggs and the silly idea that aliens with test tubes constitute "God" or "gods". When I hear stuff like that, I find myself thinking WITH the born-againers, the Jesus freaks and the Bible thumpers. I NEED them to protect me from those who might believe in the Princeton Eggs. Polarization occurs, which may or may not be the desired effect. Clear Channel might want that outcome. PsyOps may want the same outcome, but the ability to guide the sequence and direction of the polarizing revelations. C2C-AM is ALL supply-side, which contrasts with George Carlin describing the motives of the inventor of the flame-thrower, "boy, I'd sure like to set fire to those people over there" ...

Coast should take a page from George Carlin and go after bone-heads raking in millions in royalties on patents that are killing people. The science has given way to the social science - the aether is a thread of commonality between Princeton Eggs and Remote Viewing. The Annunaki of SitChin and the Templars of the Holy Blood and Holy Grail ... Nazi Germany is the perfect example of what happens to a society when myth replaces history - so, when the historians, economists and cartographers are screaming "FOUL", I really don't think they should be ignored just because they aren't focusing on Rennes le Chateau, or Rosslyn Chapel. If you are not marching to the mind-numbing beat of the CON - you're on your own. If your material doesn't fit the other social fictions and planted delusions ... you might as well be on Mars. C2C-AM should take more chances and bring things like the StarGate Conspiracy out into the open.

By far the classiest thing George Noory ever did : killing a tribute to a convicted sex-offender who was killed in prison - the "God is a Mushroom" guy. George has alarmed me by saying he believes that the end of the Mayan Calendar signalled the end of the world - and I posted a "WTF ???" comment on TEM Blog when he did it. Then George back-tracked after a few years of saying his last day would be Dec 21, 2012 - perhaps George is learning that it can back-fire to be seduced by his guests or lulled into accepting their alarmist predictions. I think C2C-AM desperately needs to contain the discussion their shows generate - like a Blog or BBS - and steer their ship through the high seas of 'public demand' that way. Going all supply-side is leaving them detatched and aloof from reality. When a mystery guide they've pumped up is debunked - that should be as big a story as when they are confirmed. When someone takes $55 from you and hands you a book about something, like maybe the history of cartography, they had better not get caught misleading you ... because shows like C2C-AM are supposed to be there to blow the whistle and tell their listeners "sorry we were a party to this".

C2C-AM has the power to generate book sales by virtue of their largesse (10 or 20 million), so they have the power to simulate or counterfeit public interest. It's a 3 hour book promotion with carefully screened callers that won't come anywhere near de-bunking the author.

I think Ed Dames' personality got him onto C2C-AM and it seems that his potential was misused, or maybe misguided. Art Bell falls into the 'careful, don't trust him' range, not because he thinks Mars is a 'cat-box', but because for Art, it's just a GIVEN that Princeton Eggs are real and that Remote Viewing works.

12/10/2005 05:28:00 AM  
Blogger Spider818 said...

John, the day's still young and who knows...if something was put in motion today, you may not see the results for awhile. Staying tuned here...continuing to watch.

Ms T, your vision was something else. Hope to hear more as you and your daughter compare more notes.

Spider

12/10/2005 07:36:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Krazyby4kids, the eggs are bonging and gonging, so I assume that SOMETHING other than the Spike TV Video Game Awards is going to happen...

You're right dr. John, I need to calm down. It's just that I've been waiting and waiting for months for Dec. 10 to find out if something DOES happen. I'm a little excited. Besides, I've just been throwing out hypothoses as to what could happen. The only big thing that I KNOW is going to happen is the Spike TV Video Game Awards. Oh, and as to that question, I don't remember it...

Spider18, you're right. Whatever happens might take several days to be noticed...

John

12/10/2005 07:52:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

ms t,
THanks for checking all those pics. I wish I had more time to get some new ones, but projects are keeping me indoors. Which isn't such a bad thing this time of year. :)


sword said;
I expect the old guard to be changed out for one that is more enlightened. How messy that transference
will be is an open question.

An "anana" said thus...

And then Sword says - three sheets to the wind:

You don't know how close to the truth you are my brother.

Sword

12/09/2005 11:02:23 PM

The sooner the better. This has gone on long enough.


Wayne

12/10/2005 07:54:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Sunspot 822 has come back around

12/10/2005 07:56:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

If the egss go nuts about 24 hours before a big event, then maybe whatever's going to happen, happens this afternoon...

12/10/2005 08:17:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Something of interest: Most of the eggs aren't showing up on the site (last I saw, it was down to 4)

12/10/2005 08:27:00 AM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

Something of interest. I'll be frying eggs with bacon this morning.

12/10/2005 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sword
What about Kung Fu Fighting?

12/10/2005 09:50:00 AM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

Dr.John: excellent response to my post about C2C! I also enjoyed immensely Crypt0's response as well. Both very interesting and informative. My comment about John was meant to be complementary and after thinking about what you said about making John looking liberal, I'd have to say that my painting with this brush should perhaps only apply to my immediate community. Where I live, the slightest mention of the paranormal to anyone who considers themselves conservative sets them off like bombs. Whereupon you are heaped with scorn and condemnation and a desire on their part to declare you a minion of Satan.Until I came on this blog, I had never met anyone who was conservative yet willing to treat the paranormal seriously and with an open mind. To meet such people here I find very encouraging and positive.

When did RCH have his heart problem in Miami? I'm wondering if this predates when I first heard of him or C2C.

12/10/2005 11:14:00 AM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

To those that were lost: if their work was a contribution to Knowledge and Truth, let us all hope that it was not in vain.

12/10/2005 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Starshipconstellation
Hoagland had his heart attack in March of 99. He has been on c2c since 94 at least. That is when I first heard him with Art Bell. The info he provides on those shows now, seems to be mostly fluff or rehashed titilation. In the days of old, RCH would speculate on, or report as fact, things he NEVER has discussed on his web site to this day. Thank God for audio tapes.

12/10/2005 11:33:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

To Bohemia and all the crewe,
Thank you for the kind remarks about the blog topic. And you, Bohemia, fully understood and improved on the spirit of what I was saying about those who toil behind the scenes, whose dream is not in any way less fervent than the ones in the headlines.

tacodog,
I know I, for one, often feel the same feelings as you so elquently expressed. And it is for good reason you feel that way...it is so easy for disinfo agents to work their 'magic'. Increasingly so these days, as history has shown us the perfidy that 'authority' (i.e. Government, Church, TPTB) has demonstrated in it's dealings with the 'peepul'. Look at the personalities and psychology of those that are 'given' power...most often not very desireable, when we get to the core of what makes these alleged human beings operate.

I oten joke about how I have now learned so much about so many things, that I am now thoroughly confusticated! :)

12/10/2005 11:42:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Bio_Unit,
Has anything ever been said about Drydock in the forum?

Ms.T,
WOW! Very odd that was. You been watching ads for the new King Kong movie? (The house shaking side to side.)

Cyrpt0,
I hate to say this...but I thought Sitchins theory about Annunaki taking an evolved hominid and manipulatign DNA to create homo sapiens had a ring of truth to it, that it could be a definite possiblity and answer so many questions about our origins. But I ain't that smart....

12/10/2005 12:19:00 PM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

Hey Crew,
Good morning.

Sunking, the shaking was my daughter's experience. Her experience was one of different fears I believe. My experience was more of learning and Peace? It's like I could see the problems, knew the answers but had to walk away. I couldn't help those people. I got the impression that I was supposed to learn and bring back the message of UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, EQUALITY. Now i'm not sure how the hell i'm supposed to get that message out there anymore than it already is but that is what I think. My 2cents ...

Spider,
Are u here this morning? I would love to hear what u think about my experience.

Anyone seen Jas today?

12/10/2005 12:48:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

The Pole Is moving;
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/09/D8ED22880.html

Apologies for the dry url. My cheatsheet is at home.

Wayne

12/10/2005 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous other side of the pacific said...

John: Hottest news on Dec 10

Microsoft launches Xbox 360 console in Japan

12/10/2005 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

Anonymous said...

Starshipconstellation
Hoagland had his heart attack in March of 99. He has been on c2c since 94 at least. That is when I first heard him with Art Bell. The info he provides on those shows now, seems to be mostly fluff or rehashed titilation. In the days of old, RCH would speculate on, or report as fact, things he NEVER has discussed on his web site to this day. Thank God for audio tapes.

starshipconstellation said: Since I had not listened to RCH before 2002, I have no point of reference if he has changed or not. I did read a first edition of the Monuments of Mars in the last couple of years and found it quite compelling. I may try to interlibrary loan myself a more up to date edition if I can find a library that has it. Just what sort of things did RCH talk about then that's still not on his website?

All of those who've listened to Art Bell and C2C from the beginning are a great source of envy to me. I get the impression the difference between then and now is huge.

12/10/2005 01:52:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Shades of Danziger Bridge..

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
Posted by drew
At least one passenger aboard American Airlines Flight 924 maintains the federal air marshals were a little too quick on the draw when they shot and killed Rigoberto Alpizar as he frantically attempted to run off the airplane shortly before take-off.
"I don't think they needed to use deadly force with the guy," says John McAlhany, a 44-year-old construction worker from Sebastian, Fla. "He was getting off the plane." McAlhany also maintains that Alpizar never mentioned having a bomb.

"I never heard the word 'bomb' on the plane," McAlhany told TIME in a telephone interview. "I never heard the word bomb until the FBI asked me did you hear the word bomb. That is ridiculous." Even the authorities didn't come out and say bomb, McAlhany says. "They asked, 'Did you hear anything about the b-word?'" he says. "That's what they called it."

When the incident began McAlhany was in seat 24C, in the middle of the plane. "[Alpizar] was in the back," McAlhany says, "a few seats from the back bathroom. He sat down." Then, McAlhany says, "I heard an argument with his wife. He was saying 'I have to get off the plane.' She said, 'Calm down.'"

Alpizar took off running down the aisle, with his wife close behind him. "She was running behind him saying, 'He's sick. He's sick. He's ill. He's got a disorder," McAlhany recalls. "I don't know if she said bipolar disorder [as one witness has alleged]. She was trying to explain to the marshals that he was ill. He just wanted to get off the plane."


McAlhany described Alpizar as carrying a big backpack and wearing a fanny pack in front. He says it would have been impossible for Alpizar to lie flat on the floor of the plane, as marshals ordered him to do, with the fanny pack on. "You can't get on the ground with a fanny pack," he says. "You have to move it to the side."

By the time Alpizar made it to the front of the airplane, the crew had ordered the rest of the passengers to get down between the seats. "I didn't see him get shot," he says. "They kept telling me to get down. I heard about five shots."

McAlhany says he tried to see what was happening just in case he needed to take evasive action. "I wanted to make sure if anything was coming toward me and they were killing passengers I would have a chance to break somebody's neck," he says. "I was looking through the seats because I wanted to see what was coming.

"I was on the phone with my brother. Somebody came down the aisle and put a shotgun to the back of my head and said put your hands on the seat in front of you. I got my cell phone karate chopped out of my hand. Then I realized it was an official."

In the ensuing events, many of the passengers began crying in fear, he recalls. "They were pointing the guns directly at us instead of pointing them to the ground," he says "One little girl was crying. There was a lady crying all the way to the hotel."

McAlhany said he saw Alpizar before the flight and is absolutely stunned by what unfolded on the airplane. He says he saw Alpizar eating a sandwich in the boarding area before getting on the plane. He looked normal at that time, McAlhany says. He thinks the whole thing was a mistake: "I don't believe he should be dead right now."

Source

12/10/2005 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

sunking,

The answers are there for us to find. They have to be. Either we haven't dug deep enough archeaologically or we are failing to objectively see all of the present facts.

I have a few reservations regarding the Annunaki.

1) Why would they create a labor force with a will, a conscience and the ability to adapt and create? It would make for one hard to control labor force. Things would seemingly be easier for them to control with a labor force of automatons.

2) Why create deity figures like Enki for us to believe in? Oppressors cartainly do not need to create a dogma or mythos to control a population of laborers. A gun is much more effective and it's simple.

3) Why didn't the Annunaki take us with them when they left? Surely they would need a labor force elsewhere or were we extremely easy to make, disposable if you will. If so, then it surely would bolster the argument for automatons and not homo sapiens.

4) Why haven't they come back? If they left due to a danger in space. Why not return and restart production when the danger had passed? Or maybe they never left at all. Their own creations killed them. If they established a mythos, maybe the concept of hope emerged and over time the labor force began hoping for more than just work. Given time that small hope could have gained momentum and became a movement and the movement became a rebellion.

Just a few questions. I'm not a Sitchin expert and my questions/reservations are based on a cursory knowledge of the subject. I might be all wet from the get go.

12/10/2005 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

starship constellation said,

All of those who've listened to Art Bell and C2C from the beginning are a great source of envy to me. I get the impression the difference between then and now is huge.<

Oh yes. I started listening in '95 and those shows were riveting. I operated a cleaning company then and would hurry thru my jobs so I could sit and listen. Every night, even nights of just open lines, were incredible to hear.

12/10/2005 02:03:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

buuba hyde,
About your post re: reservations, aren't you thinking a bit too contemporary? What if they Annunaki created and instilled into the Adama that they, the Annunaki, were gods to be worshipped. As we are today, wouldn't the Adama have believed that that what the way it was supposed to be? I am not criticizing, just throwing out another point to think about. Sitchen reports the Sumerians to worship (read:work for) the Annunaki as their sole purpose. At least initially in their history. Reading all of Sitchens books is a great read. He is just another point to ponder.

Wayne

12/10/2005 02:23:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I did get a revelation at midnight Dec. 10, 2005 which will be of particular interest to you John and 14000.

I had finished unloading my "dry" trailer and was waiting outside for my driver to move the trailer so that I could seal it up. I always look to the skies when I am waiting for trucks to move in and out. Last night, I was looking up at the moon. This was a rare occasion for me as chemtrails have been so pervasive that I don't see as much of the nightsky as I used to. There was a "chinook" type wind moving the "clouds" around. I recognized them as chemtrails in their flimsy near earth longditudinal furrows. They were being pushed quite noticeably by the wind so I took the opportunity to explain to my driver what it was that was happening with "clouds" these days. While looking up I noticed a much darker cloud moving toward the moon and pointed them out to the driver. Much to my surprise, the darker clouds started to form up in furrows just like the white wispy ones that were up considerably higher but transparent. The black clouds obliterated any possible view of the moon.. All this in a matter of a couple of minutes. This is the depressing part. The black clouds were coming from a smoke stack less that 2 km. away. The "chinook" wind was disassociating (spreading) the industrial cloud very quickly. Who or what was forming the longditudal furrows at "ground level"?
Just in case you don't get it; The EMP shaping chemtrails is right down to the ground shaping me.

12/10/2005 02:44:00 PM  
Blogger Spider818 said...

Hello everyone!

Heard from Jas via email earlier and it's windy there today and he has gone surfing again. He says he'll be blogging later today.

Spider

12/10/2005 02:56:00 PM  
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12/10/2005 03:11:00 PM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

SSL4000G said...

buuba hyde,
About your post re: reservations, aren't you thinking a bit too contemporary? What if they Annunaki created and instilled into the Adama that they, the Annunaki, were gods to be worshipped. As we are today, wouldn't the Adama have believed that that what the way it was supposed to be? I am not criticizing, just throwing out another point to think about. Sitchen reports the Sumerians to worship (read:work for) the Annunaki as their sole purpose. At least initially in their history. Reading all of Sitchens books is a great read. He is just another point to ponder.

Wayne

12/10/2005 02:23:39 PM

Wayne,

Interesting point but no I don't believe I'm thinking too contemporary. What you suggest is indeed plausible. My question is why bother? If all humanity at that time was nothing more than a labor force, there are more efficient ways of dealing with them. Now on the other hand, if the Annunaki believed themselves to be gods and creators worthy of worship and enrichment by those below them what you suggest would seem the more likely.

12/10/2005 03:29:00 PM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

crew, today, I've thought about today for some time now, as you can all imagine, mi likkel reputation, and all good things, lay on a start and finish to mark an event...

Well today marks the end of the 'event' Five months of torment, however, the start of what happens next starts today...

33 years ago, a jet crashed at that same airport in Chicago.

Today another just crashes in Nigeria killing Nigeria jet crash leaves 103 dead . If that 'coincidence and the spate of things to come, not including this little line up of coincidences;

3.3 2005/12/10 06:34:21 51.264 178.123 1.0 RAT ISLANDS, ALEUTIANIS., ALASKA
3.3 2005/12/10 12:05:57 53.104 -166.924 35.0 FOX ISLANDS, ALEUTIANIS., ALASKA
3.3 2005/12/10 17:47:43 51.384 -177.077 35.0 ANDREANOF ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN IS., ALASKA

Also Staytuned(italics)com or spaceweather... has an interesting ting;

For all the past 4 months, they have not reported a single Near Earth Object, despite increasing the count from 710 to 743 (33 more) a couple of weeks back.

Now this;

On 10 Dec 2005 there were 748 known Potentially
Hazardous Asteroids
December 2005 Earth-asteroid encounters
ASTEROID-DATE-(UT)----MISS DISTANCE MAG. SIZE
2005 XA8 Dec. 5-------0.6 LD--------15---~35 m
2005 XX Dec. 9-------2.2 LD--------18---~20 m
2005 WC1 Dec. 14------7.9 LD--------15---~370 m

THREE (3) New Near earth objects reported today.

Now nothing, zilch, nada for four months and suddenly the above...

OK...

Catching up with you all...

hope y'all still got all ya 10 fingers and toes...

Nice new entry SunKing, u always manage to throw me off with how ya mind works... good ting...

4.53 here... and windy...

Crypt0, I hear ya, and mucho appreciato da toast :D having one now myself...

Spider, dats true, the culmination of the last 5 months of 'weather', will be felt in finance, energy, housing etc... will be a growing 'concern' on an already fearing and terrified nation...

staying very tuned... and catching up...

PS it's breezy today, was perfect y'day; Bryansail, had out mi 5.9 and 86 liter wave board, was real hectic in da bigger gusts...

12/10/2005 03:58:00 PM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

Anon...it's not cool to attack someone so brutally. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It's really in bad taste...maybe u should point out your opinion in examples or whatever. Some of us are interested in what Eric has to say.

Sorry crew...but that was just wrong....not trying to step on toes :):x

Hey Jas,
Sounds like u are having a great day. I toasted for ya today..in your honor. Ineresting numbers and info above in your post.

Ms. T

12/10/2005 04:12:00 PM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

hey spider.. glad to see ya here. I checked out your blog. Cool. I was trying to load some new pics to mine earlier and it posted each pic 3 times...lol. So i deleted. I would love to know your take on my experience.

12/10/2005 04:15:00 PM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

Sunking I think that was DIRECT name calling of a crew member. Sorry if I stepped over any lines in my previous post to Anon. :)

12/10/2005 04:20:00 PM  
Blogger zebowho said...

Dr. John, I noticed a similar change in RCH but I had always attributed it to someone staring at their own fate. Not sure how that would change me. Add that to the changes with C2C over the years including Art Bell...bottom line, IMHO it's become just a total mess.

Just before I stopped listening I'd have to tune in all week just for a handful of "real" information amid all the absolute drivel I mean a person can only take so much with the "specialty lines" and frankly I didn't and don't have that much time to spend doing absolutely nothing. So Dr. John, Crypt0 I agree C2C was once some excellent time spent chasing the bigger picture but now...I'd rather hang here with everyone.

I started listening in '95 as well Bubba Hyde and can remember some comments that were so thought provoking that they still have me thinking. One such was when RCH was interviewed on a Sun Dreamland (before Whitley Streiber took the show) and by guest host Barbara Simpson. They were talking about Mars and Richard ended his interview with a cliff hanger, and one I haven't heard him talk about since, and that was simply when your thinking about Mars in the context of TEM, Tom Van Flandern's EPH now think about the bible...The question he posed was "What if Revelation doesn't happen last?" That comment has always had me thinking.

Some interesting arguments re: Annunaki bubba...If I may I'd like to add a couple of pennies :)

After reading Sitchen's "Lost book of Enki" I had the impression (from the story) that the Annunaki, all though were very technically advanced, had a different "spiritual" take on life. I mean they're outlook on "the force of will" and "destiny" were opposite of ours. If something was determined to be "destiny" it would (or should) always override the force of will. So maybe they didn't fully realize the potential of our will power or at the very least, didn't give it any importance over their own.

For the deity...why take on the task of managing the "work force" when you can let God do it. Put the fear of God in the ppl's mind and the control would be a lot easier. Didn't most if not all Dictators/oppressors think they were sent by God too? Religions have been doing it for centuries as well.

According to the book, the reason we were "refined" was because of the difference between the Annunaki's home world and here...not unlike the post on the last comment section about Serpo/Eben's the Annunaki's day on their world was 30 days here (or there abouts)so the environment was too harsh for the manual labor...hence humans/created labor. And then finally when the "deluge" came because of the planet crossing, Enlil and Enki differed in opinion about us. One wanted to save his vested interest and the other wanted to follow his fathers (ruler of Nibiru) ruling that we should have never been manipulated with and left to perish. They always thought of us more like a cherrished pet but not on their level as a spiritual being...at least that was my take.

As far as the whole Sitchen/Annunaki thing, like you I'm still on the fence. I haven't been fully convinced that Sitchen's take is accurate but if it is...it's incredible that the "meat" of the Bible was carved in stone much earlier than scribes came along. Anyway just sharing what I read (and can remember) from the book so whether it's true or not...dunno, but it is interesting.

-z

12/10/2005 04:46:00 PM  
Blogger Spider818 said...

Ms. T said...
hey spider.. glad to see ya here. I checked out your blog. Cool. I was trying to load some new pics to mine earlier and it posted each pic 3 times...lol. So i deleted. I would love to know your take on my experience.

Spider----> Hey Ms T! I saw your message earlier and have been thinking through your experience. Thought I had a response for you, but you added a few more details in your post to Sunking, so now I'm giving it some more thought!

Know what you mean about posting the pics to the blog. I have some more I was trying to post and it would tell me it was finished, but nothing was there. After that happened about 3 times, I walked away!!! Will try again later. Has to be the blog...can't be me! :)

Spider

12/10/2005 04:46:00 PM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

Spider,
Same thing happens to me. Sometimes the pics post and all is good ...other times it says they posted but they are nowhere to be found??? I have to leave and go back as well...lol. Let me know when u gather your thoughts on my experience.

12/10/2005 05:23:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Anonymous said...
hay ericswan,

you are an idiotic PINHEAD! You duplicate people's work and repost as your own. You do not even have the intelligence to look up anything.

you are arrogant, short-sighted, incoherent, psycho-babble, shallow, self-centered, self-righteous, PINHEAD.

You are out-of-touch with reality and, quite frankly, you have your head up your @$$!

You are a danger to yourself and to computers. An embarrassment! You can't even get a hot-link correct. And yet you act intellectually superior with your incognizant crap!

Crawl under a rock, please.

12/10/2005 03:11:06 PM

No wonder I couldn't get back to sleep.
Are you sure you want to do my adverts? I may take you to places where your courage will fail.

12/10/2005 05:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill May Renew U.S. Weather Control Efforts

12/10/2005 05:42:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. John said...

Quite an interesting discussion on the state of C2C and such. Crypt0, you expanded well on what I was trying to get across. George and all need to be tough on guest not becasue of disbelief but because we as an audience do not want to be led astray. As we all here can attest there is enough of that from other outlets. The only bias needs to be for the truth. Starshipconstellation, your welcome.

zebowho said...

>Dr. John, I noticed a similar change in RCH but I had always attributed it to someone staring at their own fate. Not sure how that would change me. Add that to the changes with C2C over the years including Art Bell...bottom line, IMHO it's become just a total mess<

RCH's change could be just that or for those that love conspiracy something darker. Not that I know or has information otherwise. I just put it out there, my orignal observation, with the way RCH has been acting and was wondering something may more long term. And yes, C2C is not like it used to be. Though I'm hopeful that it not irreversable.

John said...

>You're right dr. John, I need to calm down. It's just that I've been waiting and waiting for months for Dec. 10 to find out if something DOES happen.<
It like opening presents on Christmas, expect too much and you'll be dissapointed in the thoughts you got.

>Oh, and as to that question, I don't remember it...<

Okay, I'll rephrase it. Caraway and spearmint are two different and distinct flavors. They share something in common, yet in that is also what separates them. Go figure it out. It will make your head spin.

12/10/2005 06:16:00 PM  
Blogger Jman95 said...

Ok, so Where's RCH, I thought Sword said he would return about now, not so much as a peep from him
at TEM.



jman95

12/10/2005 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I sort of missed on the religious outbreak that took place over the past couple of days. I guess I've missed out on quite a few things.. I never read RCH except the blogs from Katrina forword. I have never heard of Art Bell or his sidekick. I have never listened to C2C.

I enjoy organic gardening, composting and saving seeds.. It's great to grow something, save it's seeds and grow it even better the next year.
My religious views and biblical quotes are on my link which will have to be copied and pasted as I have not had the luxury of using HTML like the rest of you. My work has been sabotaged. End of story.

http://eastsouthwestandnorth.blogspot.com/

12/10/2005 07:11:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Ms. T said...
Sunking I think that was DIRECT name calling of a crew member. Sorry if I stepped over any lines in my previous post to Anon. :)


No, you did not cross any lines, esteemed fellow crewmate. :)

B-SHOD activated! (Ahhhh, the Power!!!)

Ms. T, your experience made me think about what may be limitation some ETs have visiting Earth...maybe they can visit, but are restricted from interfering or giving advise. Maybe there is no 'free will' with the Prime Directive!?!

Oh, if y'all miss making a clickable link, that's ok...not a requirement, just was a suggestion to make things easier for all. :)

12/10/2005 07:59:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Some of you are talking about having trouble posting pics to 'the blog'.

Which blog? This one? Is so, do you mean a profile pic or something else? Or is this on someone else's blog?

12/10/2005 08:04:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Jas,
Thanks for that compliment, old friend! Most times I write stuff and I wonder "Are they gonna think I'm stupid?" or "Are they gonna find this BOring?". Mostly just try to think about what's in my heart...and go with the flow.

12/10/2005 08:07:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Bubba,
re: Annunanki

Let's remember the premise...he took existing hominids for use as his "clay', if you would. I would assume that there may have already been a propensity for cognitive functioning in these beings.

As far as making 'robots', I would rather have a 'slave' that I didn't have to tell everything to do...why not have a being that could think for itself...make the whole education/training process easier and more rewarding.

Did they have to go out of their way to set themselves up as 'Gods'? With the power/technology the A. had, they probably couldn't have stopped their creation from worshipping them as gods...i.e. Enki can fly and do all kinds of cool things...gee, I like him....he's great...I'll do whatever he asks....and on and on, until, well, they're 'Gods'.

I dunno, I think about the Bible story and I think 'why'? Why the need to create an Earth? Why the need for our 'heavenly' souls to be taken into bodies? Once having those bodies, why the need to 'prove' that we loved God by obeying rules that are contradictory to what those same God-given bodies tell us to? Seem like a laborious and expensive exercise...and to what end?

Sithcin's premise makes as much sense as any...AND explains that chromosome difference problem.

12/10/2005 08:18:00 PM  
Blogger Spider818 said...

SunKing said...
Some of you are talking about having trouble posting pics to 'the blog'.

Which blog? This one? Is so, do you mean a profile pic or something else? Or is this on someone else's blog?

Spider---> Ms T and I were talking about our own personal blogs. Sorry for the confusion.

Spider

12/10/2005 08:51:00 PM  
Blogger Spider818 said...

SunKing said...
Jas,
Thanks for that compliment, old friend! Most times I write stuff and I wonder "Are they gonna think I'm stupid?" or "Are they gonna find this BOring?". Mostly just try to think about what's in my heart...and go with the flow.

Spider---> Well, I think you're doing an outstanding job. You can't go wrong when it's from the heart!

Spider

12/10/2005 09:04:00 PM  
Blogger Sword said...

Sunking - check your mail... ...
Its complete...

Sword

12/10/2005 09:43:00 PM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

SunKing said...
>Crypt0,
I hate to say this...but I thought Sitchins theory about Annunaki taking an evolved hominid and manipulatign DNA to create homo sapiens had a ring of truth to it, that it could be a definite possiblity and answer so many questions about our origins. But I ain't that smart....<

I just don't think it makes the Annunaki "gods". It makes them a generation or two ahead of us, but I don't think it even makes them our masters. Call me a ghost-in-the-machine loonie, but the interpretation I have, is that they created, or improved a vehicle to move around on the planet in 3D - NOT the spark of divine that inhabits the vehicle. In fact, it's almost as if we are as superior to the Annunaki spiritually as they are superior to us technologically ... inverse proportion. Spiritually, we are their Gods and we serve them that way. (to serve man) It seems too much trouble to go to for "pets" that will worship them - I prefer to think (delude myself perhaps) that we're more.

12/10/2005 09:57:00 PM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

Eric,
Coast to Coast AM is on 1410 CFUN in Vancouver ... maybe you can get that on cable radio ? Or maybe it's carried on another channel upstream from me ? Failing that, you can listen online 7 days a week from 10pm to 6am at www.cfun.com

12/10/2005 11:06:00 PM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

SunKing said...
>Did they have to go out of their way to set themselves up as 'Gods'? With the power/technology the A. had, they probably couldn't have stopped their creation from worshipping them as gods...i.e. Enki can fly and do all kinds of cool things...gee, I like him....he's great...I'll do whatever he asks....and on and on, until, well, they're 'Gods'.<

In the case of the Annunaki, we're talking about an ETHNONYM - a name used by your neighbours to describe you might not always be correct. Sometimes they are negative, like "Eskimo" is the neighbouring Indian word for 'eater of raw meat' while "Inuit" is the Inuit word for "man". Maybe we call the Annunaki "Gods" as a positive ethnonym based on their attributes (they can fly etc) or based on the things we admired about them that SEEMED nearer to God than we ... but it's not the same thing as God or 'a God'. It's a flattering word, no doubt. It's a word that needed to fill a vacuum because humans might not have a word to describe something higher than themselves but lower than God ...

12/10/2005 11:13:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Well, while I haven't heard anything about black triangles showing up over our major cities, something BIG happened to me today. My dad took me to math class (the only college course I have that's not online) this morning. That's unusual, because normally, my mom takes me, then goes shopping. This time they were both in the van, apparently my dad was going shopping with my mom, which I thought was odd. When my dad came to pick me up, I asked him if anything interesting had happened while I was gone. He said not really. When I got home, and went inside, there, under the Christmas tree, was a Toshiba DVD recorder (we had a dvd/vcr combo, but the vcr kept screwing the tapes up)! It's SOOO K00L!! Anyway, that was the biggest thing to happen to me today...

I was really hoping for contact with an alien civilization...

Oh, bubba hyde, about your wondering why the Annunki (I hope that's how it's spelled) created dieties for us to worship, haven't you ever seen "Stargate: SG-1"? The Goa'uld pose as gods, because they're egomaniacs...

John

12/10/2005 11:24:00 PM  
Blogger bryansail said...

Interesting reading on C2C, wish I had listened to it
earlier as I came to hearing C2C/RCH late, well after his
heart troubles.

Jasgrave, 86 liter board, sounds fun, made me salivate
and drool a little bit thinking about a sinker board
and winds that u can barely handle they're so big.

Last night the weather channel showed a graphic of record ______________________________ (*_*)
setting wind gusts from yesterday. I just caught it showing
97 mph somewhere in Mass./new england area. Unbelievable!

To anonymous who posted a link for Bill May Renew U.S. Weather Control Efforts
I couldn't get that link to take me anywhere. Can u repost?

Staying tuned. Jas the italics were NOT there when I went
to spaceweather site. -Bryan








Anonymous said...

Bill May Renew U.S. Weather Control Efforts

12/10/2005 11:41:00 PM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

Bio_Unit,
Has anything ever been said about Drydock in the forum?


I've posted stuff from here, there's a lot of lurking over there (like here!)

There's a difference between our groups and Space.com.
You can feel smarmy intellectualism drip off the screen (I still feel unclean to this day !!)

12/11/2005 02:40:00 AM  
Blogger Adrenaline117 said...

Hi everyone,

December 10 has came and went fortunately without many tragic incidents. Except for A series of large explosions rock England oil depot, number of casualties still unknown.

And, Richard Pryor died :( also Former Minnesota Sen. Eugene McCarthy died in Washington at age 89. Oh and ... Nigerian jet crashes with 110 aboard; 7 survive. Airliner misses runway, bursts into flames in southern city of Port Harcourt. But I think JasGrave333 already mentioned this ... sorry.

SunKing ...
I came across a drawing on the Coast-to-Coast AM website that looked very similar to the drawings of your UFO sighting on the dry-dock previous blog. Here's the URL: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page1219.html.

Also, I appreciate you asking about my arm. Very thankfully, I have been out of my cast for more than a month and almost 100%. I am doing strengthening routines. Working in construction is both good and bad for that ... bad because I often overwork it. On the plus, it is definitely getting stronger and starting to look normal again.

Also, excellent new blog topic. One for the little guys or unsung heroes.

Bryansail ...
here's the link to the story: Bill May Renew U.S. Weather Control Efforts

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178183,00.html

Strange the FOX News is reporting it. Beware. But, we already knew this was coming. They were just looking for the right lie and the most opportune time.

Best wishes and good vibes to all!

~Greg

12/11/2005 03:14:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

Greg, early AM, here, couldn't sleep.

THREE Major explosions near an major fuel depot at Hemel Hempstead.

That was my old home town, I was born in HH Hertfordshire.

As a fire officer in England, Buncefield Air fuel supply depot, was under his responsibility...

It was something he always feared, that it would catch fire while he was on duty.

Three large explosions have rocked a fuel depot near Hemel Hempstead in Hertfordshire shooting flames hundreds of feet into the sky.
Police say there are casualties and emergency services are at the scene.

The first blast happened at 0603 GMT at the Buncefield fuel depot, close to junction 8 of the M1 motorway, 10 miles from Luton airport.


now THREE major explosions, at a fueling depot for 2 if not 3 major airports (including Heathrow), would spell coincidence or?

9/10/11 of Dec...

Staying v v v v tuned...

Can't believe mi birth, home town in da big news today...

12/11/2005 03:35:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

PS my dad that was, he was a fire officer in HH Herts, back in 70's to 90's...

12/11/2005 03:38:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

uh huh, more coincidences;


"It is a scene of utter devastation."

Malcolm Stewart, who drives a tanker at the terminal, said there were 20 tanks on the site, each holding three million gallons of fuel.

12/11/2005 03:43:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

Spider818 said...
SunKing said...
Jas,
Thanks for that compliment, old friend! Most times I write stuff and I wonder "Are they gonna think I'm stupid?" or "Are they gonna find this BOring?". Mostly just try to think about what's in my heart...and go with the flow.

Spider---> Well, I think you're doing an outstanding job. You can't go wrong when it's from the heart!


Spider, that's the truest words, from da heart is sweetest :)

Yep SunKing, we been at this blogging ting a while, tings are happening and the entries give a new theme to adhere too.

Unsung heroes, just sitting in da darker corners, until they gone we hardly notice...

The New Orleans Weather Tragedy shows that to be soo true. The music, the Cooking, the atmosphere of N.O. will never be the same without the people.

It will be a Disney land representation of N'awlins, a BUSH vision of cleaned, sea front posh morality of elitists...

OIL for energy is complete rubbish...

The tech exists to free ourselves, we each of us are a god, a smaller god to each other...

Crypt0 yes, gods and GOD. The bible speaks of many gods (lower case g) and THE God.

Jesus himself walked as a god. But he was not GOD. He had the mind of GOD, but that alone did not make him THE GOD.

He had agape, selfless love, but that did not make him THE GOD.

He died, but was raised up, if he litterally died, who brought him back to life? Dead is dead, so he walked with the mind of God.

We all have that ability, if we truly believe we are ALL gods children, then tuning into the mind of God would be a quality each of us should have. If we can get by our own egos, and own self worship...

Just thoughts...

Bryansail, bro, it was imense, was too excited to take pictures.

Got a new Red Neilpryde 'Excess' sail... sheesh they are nice... the 7.4, 6.4 and 5.9 are nice in the wind ranges from 15MPH to 39MPH after that, it's a handkerchief and the ironing board... at least I'll go slower than the debri flying around me :)

12/11/2005 04:00:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

We've been tracking the North Magnetic Pole since Ross found it on Boothia Peninsula in 1831.

Is there a web-site that will tell me (by calculation or observation) the approximate position of the North Magnetic Pole in, say, 1579 ?

12/11/2005 04:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So it's december 11th, and I heard Sword and someone else who's name escapes me say that December 10th would be a day that bares witness to an "event". The "event" was never named in any way and I am very curious as to what it might have been.

12/11/2005 04:12:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

...There are FIVE OIL depots around the U.K.

12/11/2005 05:19:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

Right here Anonymous;

Apocolypse Dec 10th ~ Theory 555 5 555 (Five months of Torment (Rev 9:5 and Revelation 9:10,11))

12/11/2005 05:31:00 AM  
Blogger Adrenaline117 said...

HI again,

Dealing with insomnia tonight/morning :(

Find out how much soda it would take to kill you

Some scary stuff out there ... if you drown in it.

Enjoy!

~Greg

12/11/2005 05:44:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

...today FIVE days before the IRAQI elections;

Four US troops killed in Iraq
Boston Globe - 1 hour ago
By Bassem Mroue, Associated Press | December 11, 2005. BAGHDAD -- Insurgents killed four US soldiers in separate attacks yesterday as violence increased five days before national elections. US officials announced ...


my view of da news

12/11/2005 05:47:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

The Central MASONIC army poohbah's little Numerological gift to the soldiers in IRAQ;

Texas Guard Troops Back After Year in Iraq
Minneapolis Star Tribune (subscription) - 9 hours ago
By TA BADGER, Associated Press Writer. WACO, Texas (AP) - About 3,000 troops from a Texas National Guard unit returned home Saturday after nearly a year in Iraq, rushing into the arms of family members after .


3,000 eh?, and the MASONIC central is somewhere there in TEXAS...

Like in N'Awlins, where the MASONS' TAVERN was on 333rd Street...

12/11/2005 05:55:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

A final thought on C2C-AM. Linda Moulton Howe is an Emmy Award winning TV Producer and George Noory is a former TV Producer.

As a former TV Producers, both know that the actors in front of the camera have one question for the Director (who gets his marching orders from the Producer) WHAT IS MY MOTIVATION ?

I am wondering what they THINK their motivation is. Their real motivation is to put on a good show and the interests of the listener usually get lost in the statistics and the pursuit of numbers on a data sheet.

What would be useful is a little box in the corner of the C2C-AM web-site should prompt the host : what is your motivation tonight ?

What kind of reality tunnel is C2C-AM ? When C2C fails to distinguish Crop Circle hoaxers from researchers, it makes me wonder what their motivation is.

IMHO, the hoaxers are sociopaths that should not get air time to justify their myth-making disinfo campaign. The hoaxers are deliberately generating confusion while the researchers are doing a valuable public service.

If anyone found out that aliens had left a crop circle as a message for all humanity, would they turn to Wall Street for guidance ? Would they go out and spend more disposable income ? Would they stay home and just let the moneyed elites decide what to do in response ?

That's the problem ... so the Crop Circle hoaxers are doing a good job making everyone think something super-natural is man-made. They also enjoy making man-made things appear to be super-natural. Proof of divinity has always been the grey area that elites work within to maintain their support cult.

Being wrong has never been a literary crime ... and C2C being infomercials for different types of fiction - social fictions, Holy Blood and Holy Grail fictions ... perhaps C2C is a means of supporting the base of people that have invested so much reading and listening time thinking about the BS version of history.

Nazi Germany is proof of what happens when myth replaces history. Even with that cautionary tale, is it perfectly okay to allow myth to ABUSE the 5% or 10% of the population that are misled to believe that the contrived myths are real history. It's a Tourist Trap of the mind, which is why most mystery guides give the street-level interpretation of monuments, but never attempt to reconstruct the Pharoah's paper-model that determined that position for that obelisk or temple. There's lots of emphasis on mapping the sky at night, but eerily silent - dogmatically silent - on simple questions like, "what were the Egyptians mapping in the day-time ?" The Serpent in the Sky followed by the Orion Mystery and there is a pattern to be observed and articulated.

In smarmy 'putting on airs' sort of way, 19th century diffusionists & mystics became 20th century Afro-centrists. Egypt is the root of all civilization, but Pharoah didn't have a world view beyond the visible horizon.

It reminds me of Coleridge's Two Grains of Opium - how to induce people into hypnagogic reverie-like mental states. If we imagine template being placed over template, the squares not touched can tell us alot about the hidden hand behind the disinformation campaign - and give us the Master Narrative.

I think the mystery guides exploit gullabilities of our concepts of power, conformity and influence in the pre or post dot-com era, or the Advertising Era. The truth will expose the

Finally, we are like the People's Front of Judea sitting in the stands at The Games, except we're in a modern hockey arena with binoculars watching 1000 games going on at once. Some players are robber barons, others are puppets of the robber barons ... knowing how the players interact with each other is a key to understanding how the rules of the individual chess games might be subverted or exploited to serve the interests of the bigger players (dynasties) in the tournament. Home court advantage so-to-speak.

The first benefit of a collective is collective wisdom and we should apply ours to determining which games need to be watched, which games are fixed, and especially which games we might be able to influence.

12/11/2005 06:31:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

I think the mystery guides exploit gullabilities of our concepts of power, conformity and influence in the pre or post dot-com era, or the Advertising Era. The truth will expose common central source, or method to the madness. The cumulative errors will demonstrate convergent development of certain ideas ...

Well, anyhoo, sorry about the rant ... blame too much holiday chocolate !!

Just my thoughts on how to structure a watch dog group that knows
a) who to suspect
b) who is fair game (the serial liars)
and oh yeah,
c) where to bite :-)

12/11/2005 06:38:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

Crypt0, good rant;

"Just my thoughts on how to structure a watch dog group that knows
a) who to suspect
b) who is fair game (the serial liars)
and oh yeah,
c) where to bite :-)
"


A. Who is suspect - all in power!
B. Who is fair game - all in power!
C. Where to bite - get media attention to fuel lies, to space disinformation and De-Criminalise a seed that gives nautural meditative healing.

12/11/2005 06:51:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

I think Sword mentioned that CNN, may have the odd one or three Masons on board.

CNN - 36 people hurt in the Explosions this AM...

Do all newly reported incidents have to have a Roughly 33% chance of having 30 or 3 more persons counted at any one time in major incidents?

Does it make the Masons feel better, to know all disasters, where Masonically counted?

36 my ass...

CNN Masons, get THE REAL FACTS, and stop disinforming the public with ya triple finger digit processing...

12/11/2005 07:03:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

Crypt0, you mentioned something earlier, trinity.

It's interesting that John 1:1-3 that speaks of the WORD.

Jesus Walked as the word.

Sure, he had spirit, love and wisdom. That alone did make him GOD. He did not tell people to pray to him...

He prayed to someone else, not himself...

So Trinity and THREE.

The mind of God
The spirit of God
The love of God

One man, one person who fullfilled the law of God and conquered the worldly loveless system of that time;

The world was not worthy of him...

Interesting...

12/11/2005 07:14:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

36 people hurt @
6:03 AM GMT
Three Million Gallons of fuel x 20
60 million gallons of fuel

In my old home Hemel Hempstead UK.

Today 11/12/05.

WOW...

12/11/2005 07:24:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

...that's a big bon fire...

12/11/2005 07:27:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

The calling it an 'industrial' accident.

Rumours are already flying of terrorists and planes falling out of the sky...

12/11/2005 07:31:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

OK, just to share dis likkel analysing to da crew;

36 people hurt
6:03
and
3 Million Gals of Fuel x 20 cont
or
60 million Gals.

3 6
6 3
3(x20)6

some coincidences there?

I make 3 x (3)(6)

3 3 3 6 6 6
9 9 9

hmmmmmmmm

I wish da breezes would pick up here :)

Tell me if am boring ya yet with this stuff...

12/11/2005 08:00:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

Looks awesome !!

12/11/2005 08:07:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Hello to all on this noneventful day...

Jas, I was watching the news yesterday, and even when I was just flipping through the channels real fast, I didn't see or hear anything about 3 explosions in oil depots...

John

12/11/2005 08:21:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

I really wish part 7 of "A Moon With A View" would come out soon...

12/11/2005 08:24:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

bubba hyde said;
Wayne,

Interesting point but no I don't believe I'm thinking too contemporary. What you suggest is indeed plausible. My question is why bother? If all humanity at that time was nothing more than a labor force, there are more efficient ways of dealing with them. Now on the other hand, if the Annunaki believed themselves to be gods and creators worthy of worship and enrichment by those below them what you suggest would seem the more likely.

12/10/2005 03:29:36 PM

I would really like to know wha tthe relationship was. Sitchen does present compelling points of arguement, such as the Annunaki believing themselves to be gods. On the other hand, no one has corraborated Sitchen's work to bring any validity to his (Sitchen) claims. Well, except Pye and he just seemed to me anyway, to be an echo of Sitchen. Regardless, I find the subject extremely intriguing. I think, if I could choose a second career in life, I would want to study the Sumerian and Egyptian cultures and languages. You know, the current scolars would most likely put me on the fringe as I would definitely be thinking outside the box. LOL!
It's a good discussion bubba. I wish I had some real science to share with you. I find this subject fascinating. :)

jasgrave333 said;
"Spider, dats true, the culmination of the last 5 months of 'weather', will be felt in finance, energy, housing etc... will be a growing 'concern' on an already fearing and terrified nation..."

We are already running 10* below normal temps. Going to be frigid this week with a "locked in artic air mass". As we use more gas to heat the house, gasoline has risen 10 cents in the last week. Will this ever end? We need free energy and we need it bad. Clinton called Bush wrong on Kyoto. Is he right or is that just a political statement to "fuel" the Dems? Guess we'll see won't we.

sunking said;
Sithcin's premise makes as much sense as any...AND explains that chromosome difference problem.

12/10/2005 08:18:57 PM

I would like someone to really corraborate his work. He is compelling, but I can only take from it what I can understand. There is most likely so much we'll never know because it is so extreme. He basically says that all our religions are from one source and we made up the rest to suit where ever we were in any particular point in time.

crypto said;
I just don't think it makes the Annunaki "gods". It makes them a generation or two ahead of us, but I don't think it even makes them our masters. Call me a ghost-in-the-machine loonie, but the interpretation I have, is that they created, or improved a vehicle to move around on the planet in 3D - NOT the spark of divine that inhabits the vehicle. In fact, it's almost as if we are as superior to the Annunaki spiritually as they are superior to us technologically ... inverse proportion. Spiritually, we are their Gods and we serve them that way. (to serve man) It seems too much trouble to go to for "pets" that will worship them - I prefer to think (delude myself perhaps) that we're more.

12/10/2005 09:57:18 PM

It would be great to have something to compare the too, re spirituality. If they worked us up from pre-existing hominids, I think the generational comparison would be moot. Wouldn't we be somewhat of a new hybrid species?
We may have been tools rather than pets led by a cult of personality.


crypto again;
... but it's not the same thing as God or 'a God'. It's a flattering word, no doubt. It's a word that needed to fill a vacuum because humans might not have a word to describe something higher than themselves but lower than God ...

12/10/2005 11:13:02 PM

Interesting point, you make many cryptO. I seem to think that it is again interpretation, by the reader (modern man). Is that our oppressive religious world making us evaluate everything that way?

On History Channel last night, show about DaVinci and the code he lived by....anyway, they show a sequence when talking about the town he grew up in. Panoramic shot opens the scene, and there are 4 chemtrails right in the scene. Not the first time nor the last time I expect to see them in films.

Wayne

12/11/2005 08:27:00 AM  
Blogger Spider818 said...

jasgrave333 said...
The calling it an 'industrial' accident.

Rumours are already flying of terrorists and planes falling out of the sky...

Spider---> and all this as the UN Climate Talks close. The US rejected the emissions cutback of the Kyoto Protocol (anyone surprised?)...but "British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who has made tackling climate change a key priority for his presidency of the G-8 group of the world's richest nations this year, welcomed the agreement."

Entire article here...

UN Climate Talks Close

Very interesting...

Spider

12/11/2005 08:35:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

LOL, Wayne, re: Davinci Code chemtrails!

And yes! I would love to study more about the Sumerians, too!

Spider, thank YOU, too!

12/11/2005 08:48:00 AM  
Blogger Spider818 said...

Jas, looks like the pieces are starting to come together! ;)

Spider

12/11/2005 08:53:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Crypt0,

I like your thought about C2C also exposing the hoaxers. You would think that that would be a routine event. You are 'right on' with your analysis!

We must all remember that "disclosure" (re: God, ET, Ancient civilizations, etc, etc) IS a big money-making enterprise, and that the main function of radio shows is to sell advertising airtime. Who are the main C2c advertisers?

Wall Street co-opted the 60's 'Love" movement. It was a groovy thang, until WS figured out how to make money off of it. The whole 'love' concept got watered down and made silly, whilst making some folks rich (Kinda like what happened to the words of Jesus, lol!), until nobody who was genuine and sincere would associate themselves with the 'movement' anymore. It got co-opted.

The same thing is being done with ET and cropcircles and every conspiracy theory out there.

It's a dyzinformatzya thang, baby! :(

12/11/2005 08:58:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

John,
re: what I just said....

That is why you should not see something on the news (or whereever) and start running around with your hair on fire...examine the source, examine all the possible motivations for a piece of info to be disemminated at a given time or place, who truly benefits or is destroyed (look hard between the lines here), who is delivering the message (and why THEM?), the setting where the delivery takes place, etc, etc. All these things have meaning.

That's why it's so hard to believe something that points to disclosure...whether it's on Faux News on found in a copier tray by a new customer.

Truth is one slippery customer!

12/11/2005 09:03:00 AM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

I'm BLOWN AWAY!!! I just got up, turned on CNN, having a cup of coffee when this commercial comes on. It is a cartoon commercial. This chick says something to the effect that Jesus is black, the gov't did 9/11 and then it flashes a website? It was so fast I missed part of it??? Has anyone else seen this yet? Wonder how that got on CNN??? HMMMM....

word verif...wedwh...lol

12/11/2005 09:03:00 AM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

I'm sorry...how rude of me. Good Mornin' to ya Crew!! Hope all is well.

Ms. T

12/11/2005 09:07:00 AM  
Blogger Spider818 said...

Good morning Ms T! Hey, can you email me? I wanted to send you something via email. I thought you had posted your email address before, but can't find it on this blog. My email: spider818web@yahoo.com

Spider

12/11/2005 09:20:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

Apparently crew, John got up this morning and "watched all the news"

And didn't see this AM's (Since 2:30 EST) Headline NEWS!!!

it would be like waking up and not breathing for the rest of the morning...

John, your either stupid or blind?

Blasts send shiver through UK
Melbourne Herald Sun, Australia - 20 minutes ago
A SHIVER swept across London last night after several large explosions rocked an oil terminal near one of city's airports, triggering fears of a terror attack. ...
Large explosions at UK fuel depot an "accident"
Malayala Manorama, India - 30 minutes ago
Hemel Hempstead, England: A series of explosions tore through a fuel depot north of London before dawn on Sunday sending flames and a column of black smoke ...
Two 'serious' after depot blasts
Scotsman, United Kingdom - 1 hour ago
They were among 36 casualties following a series of blasts which rocked the Buncefield depot near Hemel Hempstead in Hertfordshire, police said. ...
British oil depot burns
CBC News, Canada - 43 minutes ago
A series of explosions rocked a major oil depot just north of London just before dawn Sunday, injuring 36 people. Huge balls of ...
36 hurt in British oil blasts
News24, South Africa - 1 hour ago
London - A total of 36 people were hurt, the vast majority of them with minor injuries, in a series of apparently accidental explosions which struck an oil ...


AGAIN John, of little genius or sight, IT WAS MY HOME TOWN, HEMEL HEMPSTEAD

I WAS BORN THERE!!!

For freaks sake!!!

Gonna toast him...

12/11/2005 09:28:00 AM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

Hey Spider,
Sure my addy is Breamac@aol.com.

HEY CREW!!! Has anyone else seen the cartoon commerial that jesus is black and the gov't did 9/11???

12/11/2005 09:29:00 AM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

HEllo....lol

12/11/2005 09:57:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Have not seen that commercial, T. Is it for South PArk?

12/11/2005 10:02:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Jas,
Easy on John. On Faux News, it probably didnt play until the Financial Report came on.

12/11/2005 10:05:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Jas.. Please followup with any local contacts you have on airplanes and sabotage.. This same thing happened in Romulus a couple of months ago. Eye witnesses (one a teenage girl) who lived within a couple of blocks of the EQ plant said they "heard" a plane go pop followed by an explosion. More on this point; Why not suspect Terrorists.. My theory is that the government would have to spend money watching the skies and recognizing that they are vulnerable "EVERYWHERE" not on the subways where they can instill "FEAR" in the travelling public and harass the poor half to death with cavity searches and flights to foreign parts unknown. This is not going to come out if they can help it. They don't want to "inspire" anyone with their actual vulnerabilities. They want sheep in fear not government on the run.

12/11/2005 10:25:00 AM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

Sunking,
It wasn't a commerical advertising anything...this cartoon chick..brown skinned..has a microphone...she says Jesus is black and the gov't did 9/11...it has a wed address and that's it...all of 10 secs. ??? I almost fell out of my chair!!! the web address has boondock. something. I am checking all the boondock websites i can find...what an adventure so far. The commercial was on CNN!!!

12/11/2005 10:34:00 AM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

Spider,
did u get my email???

12/11/2005 10:37:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

afternoon of October 1 came to be known as the Pulse, a signal sent though every operating cell phone that turns its user into something...well, something less than human. Savage, murderous, unthinking-and on a wanton rampage. Terrorist act? Cyber prank gone haywire? It really doesn't matter, not to the people who avoided the technological attack. What matters to them is surviving the aftermath. Before long a band of them-"normies" is how they think of themselves-have gathered on the grounds of Gaiten Academy, where the headmaster and one remaining student have something awesome and terrifying to show them on the school's moonlit soccer field. Clearly there can be no escape. The only option is to take them on. CELL is classic Stephen King, a story of gory horror and white-knuckling suspense that makes the unimaginable entirely plausible and totally fascinating.

I guess it's a stocking stuffer..


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743292332/ref=bk_eptp_1b/104-4372025-8770362?n=283155

12/11/2005 10:50:00 AM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

Thanx Spider :)

12/11/2005 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous other side of the pacific said...

jas said: "John, your either stupid or blind?"

nah....he's SELECTIVE ;)

12/11/2005 10:54:00 AM  
Blogger Spider818 said...

Earthquake...

6.8 2005/12/11 14:20:44 -6.570 152.180 10.0 NEW BRITAIN REGION, PAPUA NEW GUINEA

Spider

12/11/2005 11:10:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

LOL...that IS kinda odd, T! Hope we can find that.

12/11/2005 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Does anybody know what time it is..
Does anybody care?

'Spooks' Out In Force This Holiday Season; Even Caught Harassing People At 'Friendly Confines' of Wrigley Field
Former federal Border Patrol Agent, Frank Tremmel, says his life is in danger over spreading the truth about 9/11 and the downing of Syrian Migs by Israel three days after the WTC tragedy
9 Dec 2005

By Greg Szymanski



The ‘spooks’ are out in force this holiday season and getting downright nasty with average Americans, getting ‘down and dirty’ with the common-folk working 9-to-5, paying their fair share and wanting nothing more than to express their views whenever they choose.



But, like ‘Scrooge’ at a holiday party, the list of those being silenced under the neo-con takeover is as long as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s arm.



In fact, one of the first to report ill-will during this season of joy was Dan Nelson, a small town Montana carpenter like Joseph, the father of Jesus, who recently reported being run-off the road and being attacked by microwave weaponry for simply trying to get at the truth behind 9/11.



And now comes Frank Tremmel of Chicago, a former badge and gun-carrying federal border patrol agent, who reports being ‘tailed and harassed’ by federal agents at a Chicago Cubs baseball game, a place made for hot dogs, beer and family fun, not CIA spying and undercover work.



But that’s exactly what happened to Tremmel, 35, who claims his advocacy and penchant for getting at the truth behind 9/11, as well as his harsh criticism of Israel, has led to “getting followed, photographed and harassed” even at the friendly confines of Wrigley Field.



How could an ‘average Joe’ like Tremel, who now drives a truck, be the target of sophisticated government harassment when obviously the first thought is ‘there must be bigger fish to fry?’



“I asked that myself,” said Tremmel in an extended telephone conversation this week from his Chicago home, adding the orchestrated attempt at silencing his first amendment rights goes much deeper than a bad experience at a Cubs game.



Although Tremmel had difficulty answering the question ‘why me,’ he said it relates to three different avenues of communication, including numerous 9/11 truth postings made on the highly popular Craig’s List web site, postings about 9/11 and Israeli connections on a Border Patrol (union) federal web site and an April 2005 letter sent to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill), giving him a July 2005 deadline to re-open the 9/11 investigation.



“My harassment really started when I heard a radio report that Israel shot down a Syrian Mig on Sept 14, 2004. I checked out the Drudge Report and he had it in the old headline sections. There was a correction, though, it stated the date the planes were shot down was actually three days after 9/11,” said Tremmel.



“I posted this link and I wrote an editorial that Israel did this to try to get the U.S. to invade Syria first. I think Israel really want to go into Syria. And it is this story that made massive waves, but you won’t find it anywhere now.”



Although the story was difficult to find and not credited to AP, an article was found about Israel downing two Syrian Migs on World Tribune.com dated February 2005, the opening two paragraphs stating:

“Diplomatic sources said Israel Air Force F-16 multi-role fighters intercepted and downed two Syrian MiG-29 fighter-jets in 2001. The sources said the dogfight took place in September 2001 over the eastern Mediterranean Sea.

“This was the first engagement between Israeli and Syrian fighter-jets since the 1980s. The sources said the air battle took place when Israel Air Force fighter-jets buzzed the Syrian city of Latakia, a port used by Iran for the shipment of weapons to Hizbullah.”

Besides checking the Syrian Mig story, a check of Tremmel, showed him posting on the internet blog ratdog.org on May 11, 2005, the following message, indicating he felt he was the target of government harassment:



“My 9/11 posts are the cold hard facts. I am being followed and my life is on the line.
My name is Frank Tremmel. I live in Chicago and I am a former U.S. Border Patrol agent and if I am found dead, I did not commit suicide. I was murdered.”



In fact, Tremmel said harassment for his internet activity on the border patrol web site and other places led a death threat during a mysterious late-night phone call, as well as low-level helicopter and vehicle surveillance at his home and work.



“I was sleeping and I got a late-night call, saying that I wouldn’t make it alive to work the next morning,” recalled Tremmel. “That shook me up and when I left the house, I was constantly looking over my shoulder.



“And they have done a lot of other things besides that call. Just as recently as a few weeks ago, I was working in Gurnee and a helicopter flew at me at a very low level. It came down to about 100 feet off the ground in an open area in a residential neighborhood, hovering near my truck and facing me directly..



“Then there has been the constant tracking of my activities, like at the Cubs game and the trucks outside my house, checking my every move. It is ongoing as we speak, but they are not going to keep me quiet. We are losing our freedoms but what’s the sense of living if we can’t express ourselves or get at the truth about the corruption in our government?”



Besides his passionate internet activities on the federal web site calling attention to many government wrongs, Tremmel now feels the letter to Sen. Obama may have also triggered the spooky surveillance invading his privacy.



“I sent him the Pentagon strike flash video,” said Tremmel. “I also noticed part of the email I saved is missing. There is a portion missing where Obama stated that he looked at the video, closely and that he still believed the official 9/11 Commission. Somehow that is now missing from the email, which has sat in my inbox for months now.



“I thought Obama may be able to help since he was new to the Senate and decided to see, giving him a deadline of July 4, 2005 to reopen the investigation. The date passed but nothing happened but me being tailed all July 4th weekend.



“We are all very right about 9/11 being pre-planned. We have their backs against the wall and I have used craigslist to get the word out, as one method of helping spread the word.”



And a check with one of Obama’s office staff said they would research and verify Tremmel’s letter, but in the interim, Tremmel forwarded a copy of Obama’s response, saying:



“Thank you for contacting me regarding your concerns that all available footage of the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon may not have been released.



“I agree that the government should be as transparent as possible in releasing information about events that affect our country, but I recognize that in some instances the need for transparency is trumped by national security interests. I am sure you are familiar with the report issued by the 9/11 Commission. It provides the public with a strong compendium of information about the tragic events of 9/11.



“Again, Frank, thank you for writing. Please feel free to contact me in the future with issues of concern.”



Even though Tremmel said the harassment is ongoing, he plans to continue trying to influence people to open up their eyes about the truth behind 9/11, emphasizing:



“I am not afraid of these guys, not afraid of them one bit. But if something happens to me, you know why! It won’t be a suicide. It will be murder!”

12/11/2005 11:23:00 AM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Good Morning everyone,

Just tuning in, have to catch up a bunch, hands are like concrete. Great flow, good dialoguing and introspection!

jasgrave333,
Interesting event in place like Hempstead, don't you think?!
At least subjectively meaningful.
Of course you could be from no other town, eh Jasgrave333? How appropriate. :)
Have you ever heard of a band called the Dream Academy? They were big in the eighties and did an excellent song called "Hempstead Girl" that I enjoyed very much.
I'm curious how Goro at Entemenanki will correlate this event? As well, I saw some interesting symbologies on the "Victoria's Secret" Fashion Show the other night that may well tie in to the STR decoding that he is presenting.

Just some Sunday morning trivia.

God is great. The peon posers of this prismatic place will soon know who is really the maker of All and All.
The only One that IS, has many names we have tried, yet (HE) is beyond the words or our efforts at parables "about" (him).
The "wanna be" gods lording over humanity's process, are now known for their failure to fulfill in highest purity the role they were permitted to play, being given the levers of power, and I am sure they will reap well what they have sewn, for themselves.
Truth has a way of crashing in on falseness in a dramatic way.
Woe betide them, that falsified, denied, concealed and specifically obscured the pure Wisdom way.

Following the arrival of the little red horse named Sophie. I was considering this recent theme about Jesus in everyone's dialogue. A reply I made to SWORD previously about my having been fairly well read about Jesus brought me to this funny correlation: I also mentioned a book I had studied as well, called Pistis Sophia (by: Hurtak). It was essentially about the teachings Jesus gave after the resurrection. The key character amongst the disciples asking questions, is named Sophia.

I was shocked in a moment of synchrony to feel the relevence!

Wisdom is trickling in, in clear symbol sets now, for us to see in our various experiences. A bolder clarity than ever before.



WOW! I guess the hands are softening up!! SO before I become a run-on, I'll tend to some catch up reading. Peace ALL!

12/11/2005 11:41:00 AM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

Sunking,
I have been sitting here watching CNN ever since. The commercial appeared at about 8:15 a.m. CDT. I have not seen it again!!! Very ODD!!

Maybe someone HIJACKED THE AIRWAYS FOR A FEW SECONDS!!!!!

LMAO!!!

T

12/11/2005 11:43:00 AM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Here is a little video that'll rock you socks off!
All about the Pentagon Strike.

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main

THings that makes one go Hmmm?

12/11/2005 12:46:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

The passenger list on these flights looked like a whose who in the "hierarchy of mic" stars. The list changed when it became apparent that this was a bit over the top. The list changed again and now there is No list..

12/11/2005 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger bryansail said...

Thanks Adrenaline117 / Greg for that link, (fox news ohh ohh red flag time!)

Here's an excerpt about what great information should be forthcoming re; Mars
A NASA spacecraft is halfway toward Mars where it is expected to collect more data on the Red Planet than all previous Martian explorations combined.

The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter successfully fired its six engines for 20 seconds last week to adjust its flight path in anticipation of a March arrival. It will fine-tune its trajectory two more times before it enters orbit around Mars, said Allen Halsell, deputy navigation chief at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.

Once in orbit, the two-ton spacecraft will join a trio of probes currently flying around Mars. The orbiter is loaded with some of the most sophisticated science instruments ever flown into space, including a telescopic camera that can snap the sharpest pictures yet of the planet's rust-colored surface.

-hopefully we will continue to have bohemia to centralize the scoop for us. Hopefully we'll get ALL the info.
from NASA.

Hi iontruo2, The video makes me say, the truth is still unknown regarding the pentagon strike.
I'm going for a second viewing w/ my jaw still on the floor from the first. Thanks...(for making me
more angry than I already am?)
Time to pray hard for truths to be revealed, and I'm not talking about the xbox360 here, ah help us.
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main

Jas, check ur e-mail for windsurfing (Jas keeps rubbing it in that he's becoming a pro while my quiver is
mothballing in my garage lol :( ... ahhhgggghhh!!!

12/11/2005 01:41:00 PM  
Blogger unipax said...

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main

Hi ion,
Thanks for posting that link, above. Good find.
I did not know the "757" had pierced so many of the Pentagon's walls, and that the final hole was still a small round opening ! Great video clip!
On that page, the link to the "Amazing Pentalawn" was really good too!
The Amazing Pentalawn is the first time I have seen ridicule used to expose the lie of 9-11.
I like it. I think humor can help more people be able to accept the obvious which they have not been able to see.

After all, how long has ridicule been used to marginalize ufo and paranormal experiencers?

Up until this the truth movement has not to my knowledge utilized such clever and artistic packaging of info.
Maybe someone from a Madison Avenue Ad Agency will come on board and provide a catchy ad campaign for truth and disclosure ? ;)
uni

the amazing pentalawn;
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main

12/11/2005 02:09:00 PM  
Blogger Adrenaline117 said...

Hi all,

Sunday AM irony...

Pope denounces materialism from balcony of marble, gold-domed building in midst of jewel-encrusted religious icons while wearing giant gold cross.

Good day!

~Greg

12/11/2005 02:15:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Mornin' All, or rather, Aftanoon All, I saw this article and thought ya'll might like to read it. I hope the links show up. I just cut-n-paste the pertinant parts, didnt want to overpost!


More Research Urged on Nanoparticle Risk
By MICHELLE R. SMITH, Associated Press Writer
35 minutes ago

PROVIDENCE, R.I. - Those stain-resistant khakis you just picked up at the mall, the tennis ball that holds its bounce longer and sunscreen that's clear instead of white have something in common — nanotechnology.
Studies have shown that some of the most promising carbon nanoparticles — including long, hollow nanotubes and sphere-shaped buckyballs — can be toxic to animal cells. There are fears that exposure can cause breathing problems, as occurs with some other ultrafine particles, that nanoparticles could be inhaled through the nose, wreaking unknown havoc on brain cells, or that nanotubes placed on the skin could damage DNA.
The federal government currently spends about $1 billion a year on nanotechnology research under its National Nanotechnology Initiative.
These issues are being discussed openly," said Agnes Kane, a pathologist at Brown University, who is moving into nanotechnology after extensive work researching asbestos. She is one of several Brown professors sharing a $1.8 million, four-year grant to study the effects of nanoparticles on human and animal cells.
The NanoBusiness Alliance, a group of large and small businesses, is looking at working with other groups to conduct an economic analysis of the level of funding that is needed for environmental health and safety research in the coming year. The alliance consists primarily of nanotech startups but also includes major corporations such as Lockheed Martin and Motorola and research institutions including Northwestern and Purdue universities.
ETC Group: http://www.etcgroup.org

Project on Emerging Nanotechnologies: http://www.nanotechproject.org

The Center for Biological and Environmental Nanotechnology: http://cben.rice.edu

NanoBusiness Alliance: http://www.nanobusiness.org

12/11/2005 02:23:00 PM  
Blogger DCAG said...

http://www.rense.com/general69/webb1b.htm
"Reset Button" anyone?

Great Posts!

12/11/2005 02:34:00 PM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

ericswan said...

> The passenger list on these flights looked like a whose who in the "hierarchy of mic" stars. The list changed when it became apparent that this was a bit over the top. The list changed again and now there is No list.. <

That's interesting !!
Are there any old lists out there ?

12/11/2005 02:40:00 PM  
Blogger bryansail said...

Interesting Krazyby4kids, I recently was at a sporting goods store
marveling at a carbon nanotech tennis racquet, seems ironic that
tennis rackets (racquet?) have it, but it's still too costly for cars to be made
out of the ultra light material. Real surprising that possibly damaging
products are already on the market... give me tha money!!! My same
concerns with bio-tech and genetically modified foods, the rush for
profits superceeds safety far too often. -Bryan

12/11/2005 02:42:00 PM  
Blogger zebowho said...

Crypt0 siad...
>I just don't think it makes the Annunaki "gods". It makes them a generation or two ahead of us, but I don't think it even makes them our masters. Call me a ghost-in-the-machine loonie, but the interpretation I have, is that they created, or improved a vehicle to move around on the planet in 3D - NOT the spark of divine that inhabits the vehicle. In fact, it's almost as if we are as superior to the Annunaki spiritually as they are superior to us technologically ... inverse proportion. Spiritually, we are their Gods and we serve them that way. (to serve man) It seems too much trouble to go to for "pets" that will worship them - I prefer to think (delude myself perhaps) that we're more.<

I hear ya, I'm not saying that thinking of the Annunaki as "Gods" is or should be the current concensus far from that actually but to a primitave being I can see where it is possible that technology could put the "fear of God" in their minds.

Gonna go catch up now.

-z

12/11/2005 03:20:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

bryansail,
you said:
Hi iontruo2, The video makes me say, the truth is still unknown regarding the pentagon strike.
I'm going for a second viewing w/ my jaw still on the floor from the first. Thanks...(for making me
more angry than I already am?)
Time to pray hard for truths to be revealed, and I'm not talking about the xbox360 here, ah help us.

IonTruO2-->Sorry Bryan, I did hesitate a moment to pass that find along.
That is not really my area of focus, but perhaps it does tend to hi-light that things are definately not what they are being made to appear, in all regards.
Oh, I know its hard not to be angry, but I have seen so much other material out there and in some personal experiences that it will get better and this somewhat rude awakening is part of that very process of a revealing and eventual dissolution of the "tainted ones". And rest assured, they are believing they are getting ahead. but thats the best part of the Big Lesson for the Evil ones! Their rude awakening! lol
SO please Accentuate the Positive(The Jungle Book!), for otherwise we are only feeding the entity of sorts that prefers the jagged half a loaf diet of anger and fear.
WE are illusion busting and pattern breaking here! A "Holy" liberating endeavour. :)
So the bullshitters bullshit and the wicked are (what do ya know!?!?) acting wickedly!
And the Pure will Purify and become Clear as white snow.
I know what I have to tend to! :)

Your passion is bonafide Bryan, that is sooo real...and...rare!
Keep on keep'in on!

12/11/2005 03:52:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Hi Unipax!

Thanks for your feedback.
I didn't see that Pentalawn link, so tks for serving it back to me. Better than nano-tech tennis rackets!! lol
I'll go and check it, I love satire and comedic ridicule!!

12/11/2005 03:59:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Howdy Crypt0.. the list

http://www.rense.com/general21/pass.htm

12/11/2005 05:33:00 PM  
Blogger Spider818 said...

Sword said...
Sunking - check your mail... ...
Its complete...

Sword

Spider----> Is this the long anticipated Part 1 of 3 dealing with the Star of Crossing????

Spider

12/11/2005 06:59:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

For the record..on the record

The History of Chemtrail Science"??

> > If you want "real evidence" that Chemtrails exist, please look
> at the National Academy of Sciences 1992 study called Policy
> Implications of Greenhouse Warming: Mitigation, Adaptation, and the
> Science Base - Panel on Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming.
> >
> > This study was authorized and funded by Congress and sponsored by
> the National Academy of Sciences. Represented were senior researchers,
> faculty, theoreticians, atmospheric scientists, department heads and
> CEO's from a multitude of prestigious institutions. The Smithsonian,
> Harvard, General Motors, Cambridge, MIT, Yale, World Resources
> Institute, National Center for Atmospheric Research, the Secretary
> General of the United Nations, Oxford, Brookings Institution, Columbia
> University, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Carnegie-Mellon University,
> Princeton University, Brown University, Lawrence Livermore Laboratory,
> and many more.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nothing more need be said at this point. This is what is happening.
> Here's your "real evidence". I'm producing it. Google the term
> "Geoengineering" and you'll find a whole host of evidence. Papers upon
> papers describing solutions, and all toss around the idea of aeosol
> spraying at high altitudes.
> >
> > Some excerpted sections of the report are as follows:
> >
> > Evaluating Geoengineering Options
> > "Several geoengineering options appear to have considerable
> potential for offsetting global warming and are much less expensive
> than other options being considered. Because these options have the
> potential to affect the radiative forcing of the planet, because some
> of them cause or alter a variety of chemical reactions in the
> atmosphere, and because the climate system is poorly understood, such
> options must be considered extremely carefully. These options might be
> needed if greenhouse warming occurs, climate sensitivity is at the
> high end of the range considered in this report, and other efforts to
> restrain greenhouse gas emissions fail."
> > "The first set of geoengineering options screens incoming solar
> radiation with dust or soot in orbit about the earth or in the
> atmosphere. The second set changes cloud abundance by increasing cloud
> condensation nuclei through carefully controlled emissions of
> particulate matter."
> >
> > "The stratospheric particle options should be pursued only under
> extreme conditions or if additional research and development removes
> the concern about these problems. The cloud stimulation option should
> be examined further and could be pursued if concerns about acid rain
> could be managed through the choice of materials for cloud
> condensation nuclei or by careful management of the system. The third
> class increases ocean absorption of CO2 through stimulating growth of
> biological organisms."
> >
> > Screening Out Some Sunlight
> > "Another option for mitigating a global warming would be to try to
> control the global radiation balance by limiting the amount of
> incoming radiation from the sun. This could be done by increasing the
> reflectivity of the earth, i.e., the albedo. Proposals for increasing
> the whiteness of roofs and surface features would have some effect,
> but only a fraction of incident solar radiation reaches the earth's
> surface and a purposeful change in albedo would have more impact if
> done high in the atmosphere. According to Ramanathan (1988), an
> increase in planetary albedo of just 0.5 percent is sufficient to
> halve the effect of a CO2 doubling. Placing a screen in the atmosphere
> or low earth orbit could take several forms: it could involve changing
> the quantity or character of cloud cover, it could take the form of a
> continuous sheet, or it could be divided into many ''mirrors" or a
> cloud of dust. Preliminary characterizations of some of the
> possibilities that might be considered are provided below."
> >
> > Stratospheric Dust
> > "Although the space dust option does not appear to be sensible,
> computations of the residence times of 0.2-µm dust above 20 to 40 km
> are of the order of 1 to 3 years (Hunten, 1975). It seems to be
> generally accepted that volcanic aerosols remain in the stratosphere
> for several years (Kellogg and Schneider, 1974; Ramaswamy and Kiehl,
> 1985). A screen could be created in the stratosphere by adding more
> dust to the natural stratospheric dust to increase its net reflection
> of sunlight."
> >
> > Mass Estimates
> > "Ramaswamy and Kiehl (1985) estimate that an aerosol dust loading of
> 0.2 g/m2 for dust with a radius of about 0.26 µm increases the
> planetary albedo by 12 percent, resulting in a 15 percent decrease of
> solar flux reaching the surface. Since an approximately 1 percent
> change in solar flux is required, and their Figures 13 and 15 suggest
> that, at these loadings, the dust effects may reasonably be
> extrapolated downward linearly, estimates will be made by using a dust
> loading of 0.02 g/m2 with a particle radius of 0.26 µm."
> >
> > "The dust in Ramaswamy and Kiehl's model is distributed between 10
> and 30 km in the stratosphere, uniformly over the globe. The actual
> effect on radiative forcing of a global distribution of additional
> dust would be somewhat greater at low than at high latitudes because
> more of the sunlight is effective there for geometric reasons. This
> would decrease slightly the equator-to-pole temperature gradients and
> might have some effect on weather intensity. Presumably, this effect
> can also be studied with global climate models."
> >
> > Delivery Scenarios
> > "Aircraft Exhaust Penner et al. (1984) suggested that emissions of 1
> percent of the fuel mass of the commercial aviation fleet as
> particulates, between 40,000- and 100,000-foot (12- to 30-km) altitude
> for a 10-year period, would change the planetary albedo sufficiently
> to neutralize the effects of an equivalent doubling of CO2. They
> proposed that retuning the engine combustion systems to burn rich
> during the high-altitude portion of commercial flights could be done
> with negligible efficiency loss. Using Reck's estimates of extinction
> coefficients for particulates (Reck, 1979a, 1984), they estimated a
> requirement of about 1.168 ¥ 1010 kg of particulates, compared with
> the panel's estimate of 1010 kg, based upon Ramaswamy and Kiehl (1985)
> . They then estimated that if 1 percent of the fuel of aircraft flying
> above 30,000 feet is emitted as soot, over a 10-year period the
> required mass of particulate material would be emitted.
> > However, current commercial aircraft fleets seldom operate above 40,
> 000 feet (12 km), and the lifetimes of particles at the operating
> altitudes will be much shorter than 10 years."
> >
> > "An alternate possibility is simply to lease commercial aircraft to
> carry dust to their maximum flight altitude, where they would
> distribute it. To make a cost estimate, a simple assumption is made
> that the same amount of dust assumed above for the stratosphere would
> work for the tropopause (the boundary between the troposphere and the
> stratosphere). The results can be scaled for other amounts. The
> comments made above about the possible effect of dust on stratospheric
> ozone apply as well to ozone in the low stratosphere, but not in the
> troposphere. The altitude of the tropopause varies with latitude and
> season of the year."
> >
> > "In 1987, domestic airlines flew 4,339 million ton-miles of freight
> and express, for a total express and freight operating revenue of $4,
> 904 million (U.S. Bureau of the Census, 1988). This gives a cost of
> slightly more than $1 per ton-mile for freight. If a dust distribution
> mission requires the equivalent of a 500-mile flight (about 1.5 hours)
> , the delivery cost for dust is $500/t, and ignoring the difference
> between English and metric tons, a cost of $0.50/kg of dust. If 1010
> kg must be delivered each 83 days, (provided dust falls out at the
> same rate as soot), 5 times more than the 1987 total ton-miles will be
> required."
> >
> > "The question of whether dedicated aircraft could fly longer
> distances at the same effective rate should be investigated."
> >
> > Changing Cloud Abundance - The Approach
> > "Independent studies estimated that an approximately 4 percent
> increase in the coverage of marine stratocumulus clouds would be
> sufficient to offset CO2 doubling (Reck, 1978; Randall et al., 1984).
> Albrecht (1989) suggests that the average low-cloud reflectivity could
> be increased if the abundance of cloud condensation nuclei (CCN)
> increased due to emissions of SO2. It is proposed that CCN emissions
> should be released over the oceans, that the release should produce an
> increase in the stratocumulus cloud albedo only, and that the clouds
> should remain at the same latitudes over the ocean where the surface
> albedo is relatively constant and small."
> >
> > "Albrecht (1989) estimates that a roughly 30 percent increase in CCN
> would be necessary to increase the fractional cloudiness or albedo of
> marine stratocumulus clouds by 4 percent. Albrecht's idealized
> stratocumulus cloud, which he argues is typical, has a thickness of
> 375 m, a drizzle rate of 1 mm per day, and a mean droplet radius of
> 100 mm, and he assumes that each droplet is formed by the coalescence
> of 1000 smaller droplets. The rate at which the CCN are depleted by
> his model is 1000/cm3 per day. Consequently, about 300/cm3 per day (30
> percent of 1000) of additional CCN would have to be discharged per day
> at the base of the cloud to maintain a 4 percent increase in
> cloudiness. This assumes that the perturbed atmosphere would also
> remain sufficiently close to saturation in the vicinity of the CCN
> that additional cloud cover would be formed every time the number of
> CCN increased."
> >
> > Mass Estimates of Cloud Condensation Nuclei
> > "With Albrecht's assumption in mind that cloudiness in a typical
> ocean region is limited by the small number of CCN, we now extrapolate
> to the entire globe. On the average, 31.2 percent of the globe is
> covered by marine stratiform clouds (Charlson et al., 1987). If no
> high-level clouds are present, the number n of CCN that need to be
> added per day is 1.8 ¥ 1025 CCN/day. The mass of a CCN is equal to 4/
> 3pr3 ¥ density, and it is assumed that the mean radius r is equal to
> 0.07 ¥ 10-4 cm (Charlson et al., 1987). Because the density of
> sulfuric acid (H2SO4) is 1.841 g/cm3, the CCN mass is 2.7 ¥ 10-15 g.
> The total weight of H2SO4 to be added per day is 31 ¥ 103 t per day
> SO2 if all SO2 is converted to H2SO4 CCN.
> > To put this number in perspective, a medium-sized coal-fired U.S.
> power plant emits about this much SO2 in a year. Consequently, the
> equivalent emissions of 365 U.S. coal-burning power plants,
> distributed homogeneously, would be needed to produce sufficient CCN."
> >
> > "Cloud stimulation by provision of cloud condensation nuclei appears
> to be a feasible and low-cost option capable of being used to mitigate
> any quantity of CO2 equivalent per year. Details of the cloud physics,
> verification of the amount of CCN to be added for a particular degree
> of mitigation, and the possible acid rain or other effects of adding
> CCN over the oceans need to be investigated before such system is put
> to use. Once a decision has been made, the system could be mobilized
> and begin to operate in a year or so, and mitigation effects would be
> immediate. If the system were stopped, the mitigation effect would
> presumably cease very rapidly, within days or weeks, as extra CCN were
> removed by rain and drizzle."
> >
> > "Several schemes depend on the effect of additional dust compounds
> in the stratosphere or very low stratosphere screening out sunlight.
> Such dust might be delivered to the stratosphere by various means,
> including being fired with large rifles or rockets or being lifted by
> hydrogen or hot-air balloons. These possibilities appear feasible,
> economical, and capable of mitigating the effect of as much CO2
> equivalent per year as we care to pay for. (Lifting dust, or soot, to
> the tropopause or the low stratosphere with aircraft may be limited,
> at low cost, to the mitigation of 8 to 80 Gt CO2 equivalent per year.)
> Such systems could probably be put into full effect within a year or
> two of a decision to do so, and mitigation effects would begin
> immediately. Because dust falls out naturally, if the delivery of dust
> were stopped, mitigation effects would cease within about 6 months for
> dust (or soot) delivered to the tropopause and within a couple of
> years for dust delivered to the midstratosphere."
> >
> > "Sunlight screening systems would not have to be put into practice
> until shortly before they were needed for mitigation, although
> research to understand their effects, as well as design and
> engineering work, should be done now so that it will be known whether
> these technologies are available if wanted."
> >
> > "Perhaps one of the surprises of this analysis is the relatively low
> costs at which some of the geoengineering options might be
> implemented."
> > (end of excerpts)
> >
> > More evidence for you:
> >
> > Jay Michaelson 1998 Geoengineering: A climate change Manhattan
> Project - Stanford Environmental Law Journal January
> >
> > Edward Teller (director emeritus, Lawrence Livermore National
> Laboratory), "The Planet Needs a Sunscreen" Wall Street Journal
> October 17, 1997.
> >
> > Climate Change 2001: Working Group III: Mitigation - by the
> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
> >
> > Ramanathan, V. 1988. The greenhouse theory of climate change: A test
> by an inadvertent experiment. Science 243:293­299
> >
> > Schimel, D., D. Alves, I. Enting, M. Heimann, F. Joos, D. Raynaud,
> T., Wigley, M. Prather, R. Derwent, D. Ehhalt, P. Fraser, E. Sanheuza,
> X., Zhou, P. Jonas, R. Charlson, H. Rodhe, S., Sadasivan, K. P. Shine,
> Y. Fouquart, V. Ramaswamy, S. Solomon, J., Srinivasan, D. Albritton,
> I. Isaksen, M. Lal, and D. Wuebbles, 1996: Radiative forcing of
> climate change. In Climate Change 1995: The Science of Climate Change,
> Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 69-131.
> >
> > Ramaswamy, V., R. J. Charlson, J. A. Coakley, J. L. Gras,
> Harshvardhan, G. Kukla, M. P. McCormick, D. Moller, E. Roeckner, L. L.
> Stowe, and J. Taylor, 1995: Group report: what are the observed and
> anticipated meteorological and climatic responses to aerosol forcing?
> In Aerosol Forcing of Climate, Vol. 20. John Wiley & Sons Ltd., 386-
> 399.
> >
> > Ramaswamy, V., 1988: Aerosol radiative forcing and model responses.
> In Aerosols and Climate, A. Deepak Publishing, 349-372
> > Ramaswamy, V., and J. T. Kiehl. 1985. Sensitivities of the radiative
> forcing due to large loadings of smoke and dust aerosols. Journal of
> Geophysical Research 90(D3):5597­5613

end of report.

12/11/2005 07:29:00 PM  
Blogger Sword said...

LOOK!
A novel... ...

Sword

12/11/2005 07:36:00 PM  
Blogger Gort said...

Is it just me, or does anyone else see the resemblance of the track of TS/Hurricane/Ts/Hurricane/Ts Epsilon to the zodialogical symbol for LEO (the Lion.)?
The symbol is lika upsidedown letter "U", with a loop at the bottom of the left leg.
The track of epsilon starts with a loop to the south then back to the north, then an arching path north, east, and then south and slightly southwest.
Leo/Lion/lion-heart/Regulus/The Face on Mars/half-lion and half-man/Richard the Lion-Hearted/RCH (where is he?) Amen
Gort

12/11/2005 07:46:00 PM  
Blogger bryansail said...

Last night on Coast a caller called up and asked
"what are these chemtrails I hear people talking about"
Ian punkkid/pundit explained briefly, citing that it was questionable,
he also went on to say his pilot friends didnt think it was happening.
The caller also shed doubt on the subject during his very brief call.
The way he asked about the chemtrails was disingenous, it sounded like
a planted phone call. Those who question C2C of late and mention
clearchannel, appear to me to be on the right trail. Ian pundit chimed
in at the end that he's more worried about melting chunks of ice falling
into the ocean than any possible chemtrails. The whole exchange seemed
planned, or at the very least strongly discouraged the possibility, then
ending with an oh well if it is happening it's not anything to worry
about. C2C needs close monitoring for what's going on there. I'm
pretty concerned w/ the direction of the program that's for sure.

Nice post ericswan, Thanks. -Bryan

12/11/2005 07:53:00 PM  
Blogger Sword said...

C2C is owned and controlled by the FCC.

Podcasting is not... ...(HELLO! DUH!) :-x
Time to get a pirate radio station going and pass the mic to Rich (and then me) :-x :-) :-x

Sword

12/11/2005 07:56:00 PM  
Blogger Jman95 said...

C2C is owned and controlled by the FCC.

Podcasting is not... ...(HELLO! DUH!) :-x
Time to get a pirate radio station going and pass the mic to Rich (and then me) :-x :-) :-x

Sword

12/11/2005 07:56:27 PM

Sounds like a plan, oh yeah.. where is he?

jman95

12/11/2005 08:07:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Hey, I just received an email containing some pictures taken of the airplane still in crash position from Midway Airport along with the story of how the private pilot got permission to take them. If anyone is interested I can either email them to you or put them on my blog site. I havent ever done anything with the site and could try to do it tonight if you guys are interested.

12/11/2005 08:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE ARE THE ONES TO HEAL OUR PRESENCE IN THIS WORLD – FOR ALL THE CHILDREN! IF NOT US, WHO? IF NOT NOW, WHEN?

12/11/2005 08:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

looks like jas is seeing only what he wants to see.mebbe it oughta be pointed out that the oil plant in britain is the 6th largest there? makes it kinda hard for them to only have 5???

12/11/2005 09:18:00 PM  
Blogger bryansail said...

Good pictures here http://www.orbwar.com/index.html
This website has lots of pictures including sundogs from chemtrails

12/11/2005 09:47:00 PM  
Blogger Gort said...

Hi, crew,
Still not caught up reading all the comments on this blog. I did look at the Pentalawn video. It sure raises a lot of questions.
BTW, Epsilon is the fifth letter of the Greek alphabet, and Leo is the fifth sign of the zodiac-ac-ac.
The Haarpicanists making a giant etch-a-sketch.
Or maybe it's just a coincidence.
Gort

12/11/2005 10:02:00 PM  
Blogger Sword said...

So, we know that Masons founded the country, we know they laid the streets of Washington DC, laying in some interesting symbology.
Now, with that in mind, they did in fact also design the White House.
With all that I have been saying before - does anyone care to explain to me - WHY - the Oval office is ... ... Oval?

Perhaps they are trying to remind presidents... ...of something looming on the horizon?

Sword

12/11/2005 10:10:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Hi all...

I now retract what I said about the oil depot blasts not being covered. I just started up AOL, and on the welcome screen was this as the top story...

No, I didn't know that Epsilon's track resembled Leo. That's cool...

One thing of interest, Jas. On the AOL headline about the blasts, it said something along the lines of "...it was like Doomsday...", so I guess you were partly right about Dec. 10...

Also, I'm not selective about the news. I go through Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, CNN Headline News, and even The Weather Channel. I just happen to stay on Fox the longest, because they're fair and balanced...

John

12/11/2005 10:16:00 PM  
Blogger bryansail said...

this looks strange to me (it is a current radar image so it won't be relevant for long )
especially near the u.s mexico border and also extending into the desert, strange long lines
and 2 that are parallel. http://www.wunderground.com/radar/mixedcomposite.asp?region=d1&size=2x&type=loop
Anyone else see this as odd?

12/11/2005 10:40:00 PM  
Blogger bryansail said...

Well already they've changed, sort of broken up, but new ones just north
of San Diego. Thin lines of rain, seems odd

12/11/2005 10:42:00 PM  
Blogger Gort said...

Track of Epsilon

Gort

12/11/2005 10:44:00 PM  
Blogger Gort said...

Bryansail,
I checked out that radar link.
How 'bout that little "cloud" zipping acros the golf of california?

12/11/2005 10:48:00 PM  
Blogger Gort said...

I meant "gulf"

12/11/2005 10:49:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

Check out the top story on WMR;

Christian Right and Arms Dealing, Uh-OH!

Man, if this could make the mainstream the proverbial poo-poo would hit the fan. Could it happen??

W

12/11/2005 10:51:00 PM  
Blogger bryansail said...

Strange line here (current radar, that shouldn't be relevant for long again)
This is close to 33 degrees, the rest of the radar, not counting the long line
is what I'm used to seeing. what is that long line at 8:02 PST

12/11/2005 11:02:00 PM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

For those of you interested in what classic C2C sounded like. Tonight is a classic C2C originally recorded on April 18, 1995, Art Bell talks to Mad Man Markham about a time machine followed by discussion of time travel.

Re. Annunaki -

It is definitely apparent that there are divergent views regarding the Annunaki. More study is required on my part as the comments made from Crypt0, sunking and zebowho only seem to raise more questions in my mind. Something tells me that we don't have the whole story.

12/11/2005 11:19:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

bubba hyde,
I don't think we've have the full story on anything. We are always struggling for information. Whatever the truth is and when it comes to the masses, I wonder what that will be and feel like. In the meantime, I will keep on seeking. I do like the points of view that are being tossed around. Good dialog, staying tuned.

Wayne

12/11/2005 11:29:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Bryansail: I checked out both links of radar at just past 11:20 est. I can see the lines also. Very reminiscent of the Harpicanes. I also noticed that the lines are moving in a different direction than the rest of the normal weather. Very strange indeed. It will be interesting to see what 'develops' there. Are you able to save the images for reference later?

I posted my first ever blog. It contains 2 pictures of the site the day after the Midway plane crash as well as the photographers account of his trip. His pictures have his website name on them if anyone is interested. Check it out and let me know what you think.

12/11/2005 11:32:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Oh, I gave the MEG plans to a friend of mine that is in that line of work. Boy was he excited. We'll see what he comes up with.

12/11/2005 11:35:00 PM  
Blogger unipax said...

Sorry mates,

Here is the correct url for 'Pentalawn'
Its good. Sarcasm goes a long way sometimes.

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/pentalawn.html

12/11/2005 11:39:00 PM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

I've had my computer hang alot - all weekend. As soon as the music plays and the Welcome screen switches to my wallpaper ... I have about 60 seconds to try something, then the mouse freezes with the hourglass beside it. I have no idea what's going on, actually ... just thought I'd see if it was a common problem. the only way I got online was to run Windows Update and, for some reason, it didn't hang (this time).

What are the Annunaki and What were the Annunaki to our ancestors ? If they used stage magic to give the illusion that they were Gods last time - they're in for quite a surprise their next trip back to Earth ! I don't think we'll be fooled as easily this time around ... which will probably result in different words to describe our space-faring cousins. Something changed on Earth and the maximum feasible size of a land animal shrank from brontosaurus and T-Rex size to the size of a modern day elephant. How did that affect the size of humans ? Those footsteps in Texas - with human and dinosaur footprints side by side - howcome the human foot wasn't proportionately larger ? If conditions allowed for giant dinosaurs, then why is the human footprint not proportionately super-sized ?

We have alot to learn and alot to un-learn about ancient Sumeria and the Annunaki, but there's strength in numbers :-)

12/12/2005 12:04:00 AM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Unipax, Thanks for the great laugh. That add for Pentalawn is just great. I sure wish we could have gotten our hand on some of those spools of cable too. When we were authorized satellite dealers, we went through lots of the stuff, but sometimes it gets cut by homeowners and lawn care services and on occasion by those hungry squirrels and chipmunks. That Pentanium Cable would have saved us quite a few hours of service calls! Oh well, we're out of the biz now, but it sure is good to know that our government has the best indestructible cable that can be made. Hmmm I wonder who makes it? Lockheed? Hmmmmmmmmm

wv: bedswiml Maybe this has to do with the 'lines' on the radar in SOCAL? :)

12/12/2005 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

SSL4000G said...

bubba hyde,
I don't think we've have the full story on anything. We are always struggling for information. Whatever the truth is and when it comes to the masses, I wonder what that will be and feel like. In the meantime, I will keep on seeking. I do like the points of view that are being tossed around. Good dialog, staying tuned.

Wayne

12/11/2005 11:29:33 PM

Always struggling yes. The biggest problem for me is finding authoritative sources that are not surrounded in controversy regarding their work. Even Hoagland isn't immune. When the issues are debated people seem to fall into camps regarding who is right sometimes in spite of the evidence(or lack thereof) presented. That is what chaps my butt. Subjective truth seems to trump objective truth. People base their view of reality based on their experiences, religion, politics and what in their own minds they are willing to accept. Very rarely will you see people willing to step outside of the box and view evidence without any filter. It's what makes weeding thru the crap so hard to do. Contrarion opinions are often met with frothing responses which do nothing to stimulate the debate rather only serve to shut the person up. The dialog regarding the Annunaki has definitely been stimulating and is a definite example of good open debate. I have appreciated it immensely.

The truth, if it is ever revealed fully, will be met IMO with outrage from some, welcomed by a few and rejected by the rest.

12/12/2005 12:05:00 AM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Crypto, I have almost always found a virus or hijacker, or something equally sinister when my computers do this. Especially on the teenagers puter....when will they learn to clean up after themselves? Anyway, run your sweeps and see if that helps. It honestly sounds like a nasty little program like 180ax. Good Luck

12/12/2005 12:08:00 AM  
Blogger unipax said...

Crypto said...
What are the Annunaki and What were the Annunaki to our ancestors ? If they used stage magic to give the illusion that they were Gods last time - they're in for quite a surprise their next trip back to Earth ! I don't think we'll be fooled as easily this time around ...
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Who is 'we'? I wouldn't be so surprised if most of 'we' (present company excluded, of course) fall for whatever TV says is true.
*
KB4K,
So glad you enjoyed the Pentalawn (thanks to iontru02).
We need more clever sarcasm to debunk the nonsense that came from the 9-11 Commission Official Report.

Hey Sword,
What's your take on that?
OK, OK, if you can't comment.
uni

12/12/2005 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

Crypt0 & krazyby4kids,

Good ol Linux, no spyware or nasty critters to worry about. Desktop versions exist that are quite nice and easy to use. Occasionally, you have to use the command line or a shell but most usually it takes care of everything. A good desktop linux version is available at Mepis.com

12/12/2005 12:21:00 AM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

Hey Crew, I just went outside and there is a HUGE ring around the moon. Never seen one like this. I looked at the radars for my area and there is a big circle over Ft. Polk. Anyone care to look?


http://radar.wrh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p20-r/si.kpoe.shtml

12/12/2005 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

ms. t

That appears to be ground clutter IMO.

12/12/2005 12:41:00 AM  
Blogger Ms. T said...

I manage to get a pic of the moon with part of the ring. It's cool.

12/12/2005 12:45:00 AM  
Blogger Sword said...

Sunday, December 11, 2005
HHMSS
Sword

No need for a pre-lim rant…
Posts:

bubba hyde said...
Re. Annunaki -
It is definitely apparent that there are divergent views regarding the Annunaki. More study is required on my part as the comments made from Crypt0, sunking and zebowho only seem to raise more questions in my mind. Something tells me that we don't have the whole story.

Sword:
Even the tops are questioning that. That is – the whole story. For it is very ancient to us
There is a question that will never be answered in regards to the Annunaki. Benevolent – or hostile? During a period of time in Summerian lore – the gods – take a turn of actions, or, methods – that turns them into ultimately benevolent beings. It was during this time that once the star of crossing arrived that a group of gods stayed instead of leaving again with the star. They of course died before the star returned. ]
But – this away team, if you will, began to teach the “labor race” us – things that where previously unkown to “us”. Things about history, science – the space beyond our solar system. This gave us a leap, that we would desperately need.
Somehow – the Annunaki who ALL where leaving – gained a conscience. They knew that their last vestige of their culture was going to collide with ours – and began to tell us a few things. Get it?

crypt0 said...

What are the Annunaki and What were the Annunaki to our ancestors ? If they used stage magic to give the illusion that they were Gods last time - they're in for quite a surprise their next trip back to Earth !

Sword:
They’re never coming back. Lore states that they are indeed a old race – a wandering race – far older than we could imagine – and that wandering from star system to star system is there way. NO solar system is inherently stable enough to support a race indefinitely – which is the problem they ran into when they first arrived – yet they still set up shop for the countless thousands of years they inhabited the system. It was THEIR big event that set into creation of us – the creation of the deep space vehicles that WE where digging up the crucial metals for – and then – they left.
There never coming back crypt0 – ever… …
They knew what this system is going to go through in the next hundred years (thousands if we don’t get to it right after OUR big event)… …


unipax said...
Hey Sword,
What's your take on that?

Sword:
Read above friend – and ask [questions] away!
This ties in well with my article series, that is this commentary regarding the Annunaki… …if sunking ever posts it.


Sword

12/12/2005 12:52:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Isn't it odd that SOHO's STILL got that CCD bakeout thing going on, and that it's ONLY on the instuments that show the Sun in good detail?

12/12/2005 12:55:00 AM  
Blogger bryansail said...

KrazyBy4Kids said...
Bryansail: I checked out both links of radar at just past 11:20 est. I can see the lines also. Very reminiscent of the Harpicanes. I also noticed that the lines are moving in a different direction than the rest of the normal weather. Very strange indeed. It will be interesting to see what 'develops' there. Are you able to save the images for reference later? I posted my first ever blog. It contains 2 pictures of the site the day after the Midway plane crash as well as the photographers account of his trip. His pictures have his website name on them if anyone is interested. Check it out and let me know what you think.
Oh, I gave the MEG plans to a friend of mine that is in that line of work. Boy was he excited. We'll see what he comes up with.

--I did manage to save 2 loops of those lines. They did move some, which clutter wouldn't do. I also have 2 different satellites/sources. Kinda strange looking. One of the lines is still there but has moved a little bit. The location is just north of 33 degrees. I'll take a look at that site krazyby4kids. Hope your friend goes for
it with the MEG, I'm really curious if it will work as claimed. Over unity, COP>1, energy from the aether,
that's what will begin the change I want off the grid of evil as soon as possible. -Bryan

12/12/2005 02:19:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

I have no hostility to Sitchin per se, I just think alot of liberties were taken with his data.

When you decide not to tell your children all, or part of your family history, there's usually a pretty good reason for doing so. So, I tend to think the story is one that was worth of not being told - at least, not to people who were carrying swords and living in longhouses.

To a civilization that can {allegedly} fly to the Moon, maybe it's not all that shocking to learn we are sprits in a material world and the bodies & brains that were manipulated (for our benefit) was a gift.

I think we are spiritually MORE than we can imagine in this form ... and while DNA is fascinating, a cell (like a country) interacts with the outside world through the cell membrane - the cell can live without DNA, with the only down-side being it can't replicate itself. I say, aim for the doughnut, not the hole !

As NASA fumbles with mysteries it doesn't understand that were produced by ritual, the stagnation of the USA is the public was never let in on the secret, so the public lacks an understanding of their own national DNA. Not knowing how its frontier was developed, the public is unable to imagine socially constructed space on the high frontier or other planets.

Those who have secrets about the ancient past have the inside track on the history we are destined or fated to repeat. A space program answering public interest questions is a very dangerous proposition - which is probably why the corporations have been given such a free reign on the high frontier. Just like Elizabethan privateers, the corporations are poised to make the first claims and their profits (mining asteroids or building on the Moon) will guide the development. It's economic organization, not political or social ... so, there is no room for public will or public interest.

If anyone knows about the ancient past, it's mainly London and also some New York capitalists that raked in the profits of Imperialism and hoarded the information.

12/12/2005 02:48:00 AM  

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