11.16.2005

Things Fall Apart


On March 30, 2005, the NBC series "West Wing" aired an episode titled Things Fall Apart , which introduced a sub-plot where-in the International Space Station (ISS) has experienced a leak and is losing oxygen. The astronauts cannot repair the leak.

Later a NASA administrator briefs C.J.,

"A rescue operation is obviously called for but the space shuttles are grounded right now pending an uncompleted safety review and retrofit."
Kate adds, "And the Russians can't get a launch together in time."
"How long have they got?" asks C.J.
"Assuming the present rate of oxygen loss, in three weeks they'll be dead."
"Can't a shuttle be pressed into service not withstanding the review?"
"One's missing half its wing assembly and the other one's undergoing a complete tile replacement. Now, we can speed up repairs---"
Kate voices the unspoken thought, "The concern would then be losing the shuttle crew and the space station crew."
"---No, that's the civilian shuttle.", blurts the administrator.
This indication is obviously a surprise to C.J.
Eventually we are given hints of a surprisingly sophisticated craft much like the DoD artwork seen above, the FALCON. The Secretary of Defense doesn't want this covert program used, because the Russian on the ISS would see it and the President has to think it over.

There followed a line that made me roar....

POTUS says, "Wernher von Braun's autobiography was titled, 'I Aim for the Stars';

Mort Sahl joked he should have added, 'only sometimes I hit London'."

Does the US DoD have their own secret, black ops Space Shuttle? I wouldn't be surprised!
But here's some info from FootNoteTV:


U.S. Space Programs (last updated March 30, 2005)
It is no secret that the United States has been seeking to develop space capabilities in recent years, though there were no reports as of early 2005 that it has developed its own space shuttle for secret military use. Developing a military-operated space shuttle probably would not violate international treaties, but some of the other actions contemplated by the Defense Department in this episode - developing bombs and other weapons that could be dropped from orbit, as well as letting astronauts die - arguably could violate a treaty that the United States entered into in the 1960s.


Developing something like a space shuttle for military use was proposed in a 2001 report by a commission examining how U.S. space activities were organized and managed in support of national security. The Commission expressed concern about a "Space Pearl Harbor," an attack on U.S. satellites or civilian assets, and pointed out "warning signs of U.S. vulnerability" such as a 2000 report by the Xinhua news agency that China's military was "developing methods and strategies for defeating the U.S. military in a high-tech and space-based future war."
The commission recommended that one objective of U.S. space security policy should be "assured access to space and on-orbit operations," which a space shuttle would help achieve. The commission stated that U.S. interests "depend critically on assured and timely access to space" and that the United States "should continue to pursue revolutionary reusable launch vehicle technologies and systems."

Still, it does not appear that the Defense Department has actually put money into developing its own space shuttle.

Military budgets (available on-line
here) show that the Defense Department has devoted millions of dollars in recent years to programs for launching satellites and payloads, but none to developing its own reusable launch vehicle, or something like a space shuttle. The following table shows the space programs identified in the FY 2006 budget (on-line as a PDF here) :

Service Program
Description FY 2006 Budget Amount (in millions)

Army Ground Systems
Super-high frequency beyond-line-of-sight communications to deployed forces $66.5
Navy Mobile User Objective Satellite System
Narrow-band communications $470
Air Force Advanced Extremely High Frequency Satellite
Worldwide communications $1,194.3
Air Force Defense Support Program
Early warning of missile launches and detonations $42.7
Air Force Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle
Launch of medium-to-heavy-weight satellites $864.4
Air Force Medium Launch Vehicles
Launch of medium-weight satellites $111.2
Air Force NAVSTAR Global Position System
Global system of satellites for navigation purposes $719.6
Air Force Space Based Infrared System (SBIRS) - High
New technologies for detecting strategic and tactical ballistic missile launches $756.6
Air Force Transformational Satellite Communications
Worldwide communications $835.8
Air Force Space Based Radar
Worldwide surveillance through satellites, first of which planned for FY 2015 launch $225.8

(Forgive the sloppiness of the table....My fault! sunking)

It is worth noting that the space shuttles operated by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration have brought military payloads into orbit in the past.

As noted above, the United States is a party to the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies, better known as the Outer Space Treaty (on-line
here). Article IV of this treaty does not prohibit the development of a military-operated space shuttle, but it does prevent the United States from installing any weapon of mass destruction in orbit around the Earth or on the moon and it limits the use of any lunar bases to peaceful purposes. Article V holds that states "shall render to [astronauts] all possible assistance in the event of accident, distress, or emergency landing on the territory of another State Party on the high seas."

Sources: The Report of the Commission to Assess United States National Security Space Management and Organization was released on Jan. 11, 2001 and is on-line here; Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's May 8, 2001 response is on-line here. The Defense Department's FY 2006 budget is on-line here; information on space programs was taken from the Program Acquisition Costs by Weapon Systems document on-line as a PDF here. The Outer Space Treaty is on-line via the State Department here.

316 Comments:

Blogger coqui said...

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11/17/2005 07:29:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

VERY NICE SUNKING!
I always said you da man!
uni

11/17/2005 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Intereting topic - consdiering... :-x
:-)

Sword

11/17/2005 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAHA...Thanks. Have few ideas about what to post in the blog. I am very new to this stuff...Been in computers since '76...but HTML type stuff is foriegn to me. If nothing else, I can thank the Skipper for yet another education!

scarletm said...
Having problems with the payroll system sunking? I hope not, cause i would hate to tell to I told you so :P


Bronx cheer to you, too! Reminds me of the old Dilbert cartoon, where Wally is writing new code and fantasizing in his mind that's he's on stage and the narrator is noting how Wally "expertly demonstrates the elegance of code re-use".....the crowd roars...AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!

Next day at lunch Dilbert says "Wally, I heard you upgraded that Air Traffic Controller program with the old Payroll software."

Wally, between munches on his sandwich says "Yeah...it went ok...but whatever you do, don't fly on Payday!"

or something like that.

HEY..Anytime someone wants to guest blog...just let me know!

sunking814@hotmail.com

11/17/2005 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sword,
Yeah...but let's hope that things DON'T fall apart!!!

11/17/2005 07:52:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

Nice blog topic sunking. Good job too on putting this whole thing together for us. You rock!

11/17/2005 08:22:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

quoting Bearden on being "attacked by his computer?" America At the Brink...

"Robot attack on this analyst as an Intelligence probe in latter 1999

*Computer suddenly controlled itself. Screen split, with two horizontal bands about two inches wide each, one at top and one at bottom.
*Light thus entering eyes from two radiant sources (scalar interferometry). Engine appears in interference zone.
*Sudden violent rapid flashes, as if 100 flashbulbs at once. Created in vision center where nerve signals crossed..
*Instant heart fibrillation, nervous system malfunctioned. Collapsed onto keyboard.
*Ten seconds exposure (30 would be fatal).
*Required 4 days to recover. Then we notified the ******Military Attacher in*******Embassy, etc.
****** destroyed millions of robots throughout America."

Bearden spells out who attacked and who retaliated but that would be an infringement on copyright so that part has been omitted.

Mrs. T..don't see any posts to my blog...I suppose it's alright for me to post but not alright for me to be "political".

Sword...I suppose you get a pass on the questions I raised in the previous set of posts?

Sunking...whip it whip it good!

371 Where are you?

Blackbeard..one of the crewe eh?

John..this post's for you!

Krazy..sup?

Crue'...please post to my blog. I need to know what you think.


http://eastsouthwestandnorth.blogspot.com/

11/17/2005 08:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ericswan said...
Sword...I suppose you get a pass on the questions I raised in the previous set of posts?

Sword:
Give them to me again - sometimes I can't - or won't - answer some questions.

Hey gang - didn't "somebody" mention this current blog topic before... ...?

Sword

11/17/2005 08:31:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

371 Here is yet another coverup by NASA..Their claim that "foam" was the culprit in the loss of 7 astronauts has more to do with cooling the launch pad with a flood of water which condenses to form ice which is "exactly" what broke through the shuttle. The longer they take to figure out how to cool the pad without using water the longer it will be before we see a launch using this tech. Same thing cropped up with the O rings which is why they won't admit they made the same mistake over and over again.

http://www.physorg.com/news5724.html

11/17/2005 08:40:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

Kudos Sunking! I'm dead serious when i say you have a talent for this. Great Job!

11/17/2005 09:07:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

triangular craft,
says its nuclear pwoered and not antigrav
http://seekers.100megs6.com/UFOManTR-3B.htm

11/17/2005 09:36:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

sword,
I think (maybe) previous mention of this (secret shuttle) blog topic was on an EM page about West Wing, here;

http://www.enterprisemission.com/sorkin.htm

It was a really good read, as I recall.
uni

11/17/2005 09:42:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

ericswan,
You recently asked about 19.5 and 333....
From that West Wing EM article here is a brief bit about 19.5 and 333.
Both numbers were repeatedly coded into that particular episode of West Wing.
That article also has the image of the circumscribed tetrahedron.
uni
excerpt:

"The connection between the two numbers is definitely “non-trivial.” In fact, it’s fundamental. The actual contact point of a circumscribed tetrahedron (see above) is precisely 19.47°, rounded up to the canonical "19.5°." The sine of 19.47° is .3333 (which, by the way, is where we believe the significance of the mysterious Masonic “33rd Degree” comes from). We have noted numerous instances of both "19.5's" and "33's" in various NASA missions, activities and symbols over the years, and the fact is that "decimal harmonics," i.e. 3.33 or 33.3, also seem to show up repeatedly in our analysis."

11/17/2005 09:48:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

as i understand it, it is all about rotation.
planets rotate and stuff like volcanoes happens at latitiude 19.5
Mauna Loa volcano would be a good example. Jupiter's red spot another. I hear that hurricanes are born at 19.5
Richard pointed out that the mansion in which the Heaven's Gate group died just happened to be on latittude 33.3, near San Diego. The suggestion was that the house was owned by ops, and the Heaven's Gate incident was an op.
Richard told Art Bell that Heaven's Gate 'group suicide' was a cover story.
uni

11/17/2005 09:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

unipax said...
I think (maybe) previous mention of this (secret shuttle) blog topic was on an EM page about West Wing, here;

Sword:
That wasn't what I was talkign about - yet - yes - that was an excellent article...
I only wish Rich had done the same on two other very imporant - clue ridden - episodes.

Sword

11/17/2005 10:01:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

T'Z..here's some links to 3d languaging right up your valley ...

The fact is that nowadays there is a great interest among researchers of American history to learn more about quipus. It is as if they were carrying out an autopsy, if you will excuse the comparison, using the latest technology. As for me, I read in the magazine Historia y vida (Barcelona XXXV, no. 425, August 2003) that Gary Urton, an anthropology professor at Harvard University, claims to have discovered the purpose for which quipus were used.

‘According to conventional theories, quipus were used to represent numbers, but Urton believes that they are actually a system of writing. Each quipu contains a binary code made up of seven bits, which can combine to give over 1,500 units of information. If this were confirmed, then the Incas would not only have invented a binary code 500 years before the advent of information technology, they would also have used it as part of the only three-dimensional written language'. Well, well, well. What surprises we have been given by the peoples of pre-Hispanic America!

11/17/2005 10:26:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

I re-read that West Wing article. Sorry, Sword, no mention there of secret shuttle. It mentioned cover-up of evidence of life on Mars. Great episode.
I think (maybe) a different episode of West Wing alluded to a secret shuttle...?
uni

11/17/2005 10:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

unipax said...
I think (maybe) a different episode of West Wing alluded to a secret shuttle...?

Sword:
Didn't I say thats not what I was talkin' 'bout?
Whuz up brother? :-)

Sword

11/17/2005 10:29:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

Sword:
That wasn't what I was talkign about - yet - yes - that was an excellent article...
I only wish Rich had done the same on two other very imporant - clue ridden - episodes.
<<
So, what were you talkin about, and which other episodes?
uni

11/17/2005 10:31:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

I re-read Clan Destine's posts at Eric's blog.
I'd like to hear crew opinion's; what % of CD's info is for real?
I'm still looking at the fact that RCH stopped posting immediately after CD posted.
Maybe RCH got told to quit encouraging the wild cards with his continued presence here.
uni

11/17/2005 10:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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11/17/2005 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi All..

been several days, out of touch.. and wow!
so many great posts.. catchin' up..
lots of INPUT !.

back later with hopefully useful responses..

Oh, and on da cap'n:
Has anybody tried emailing Robin? well not anybody.. lol
but somebody with some diplomatic tact? (..not me.. :-)
Whose the current ambassador?
Perhaps it would be at least responded to?
Worth a try?

DrFalkov@healthfreedomrights.com

http://www.healthfreedomrights.com/

11/17/2005 11:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Three or four weeks ago, George Noory mentioned on Coast to Coast that there were some government whistle blowers that he was looking forward to talking to as soon as these individuals tidied some things up vis a vis families, retirements and safety. Nothing else has been said.

11/17/2005 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and this for all things Hmmm...
(or just sellin books?? lol..fwiw)

3's, 19's, koran, torah, 911, crop circles, geographic coords...

-snips-
This site evolved from a lecture the author delivered to The Saunière Society..

In other words, it was apparent that the crop circle not only highlights the date of the US atrocities, but it also embodies the means of displaying two numbers … 3 & 19 … that were intimately linked to both the terrorist operation and two Koranic details about Hell.

Within minutes he'd discovered simple and elegant expressions of the geographical coordinates of three familiar points:-
one that lies outside the Capitol building of Washington DC
one that sits within the west walls of the Pentagon
and one that sits on the perimeter of the square
where the World Trade Centre once stood..

http://www.milkhill-revealed.com/

11/17/2005 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CD is centering his discussions around devices supposedly created to work on the "Hutchinson Effect". The "effect" consists of such things as levitation, the fusing of one metal object into another and destruction of the structural integrity of metal objects. Basically, the thing supposedly raises all kinds of hell. According to CD, it supposedly works on hurricanes too. Here is a very brief desription of the apparatus that Hutchinson used, per American Antigravity. CD described him as a "stumbler" who wasn't quite sure what he was doing.

http://www.americanantigravity.com/hutchison.html
"Hutchison's experiments include the operation of between 5 and 6 Telsa-coils simultaneously, but also include a buffer-voltage that he applies through a variable-output DC Van De Graaf generator."

If you look at Hutchinson's picture at the Amer. Antigrav site, it appears that the background of the photo is the inside of an engine room of a rather large vessel. This may have been necessary to get access to the kind of voltages and currents he needed for the experiments, even though it is claimed that he used 120VAC wall current. The use of power sources available on a naval vessel or something of similar size may explain the extreme damage shown to metal objects, without the need to resort to exotic effects unknown to physics.
To summarize, the whole thing smells bad to me. Nonetheless, my research into this stuff has produced ideas for a revolutionary new design for a Tesla coil that could produce mega-lightening. I expect the results would be sufficiently spectacular as to require that this device be operated only in a large open field. But this is another story.
As I said, this claim of a new "effect" smells bad to me and I would need to see more concrete experimental repetition of the phenomenon before I swallow it , hook, line and sinker.

11/17/2005 11:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sunking,
I think you may have greased the wrong ejit today. Either that or bohemia and his ejit were one and the same, which would be very sad.
It might be that he is into dialectics !

11/17/2005 11:54:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Hi guys/gals...

If you're wondering where I was today, I just updated newenterprisecrewman.blogspot.com with a post (and a hopefully better picture of me)...

Ssl4000g, it's COLD here...

Sunking, nice post about the military space shuttle (Although, the picture at the top of the post isn't a space SHUTTLE, but a space PLANE, which uses scramjets instead of rockets). In the latest issue of "Popular Science", they have an article about a war in space. It's really neat...

John

11/17/2005 11:58:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Oh, ericswan, what did you mean by "John...this post's for you."?

11/17/2005 11:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thanks doc, appreciate you responding..
and I figgr'd you blew me off.. Dang.

Now, I need to come up with intelligent questions to pose..:)

11/18/2005 12:00:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Busy around the Sun...

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_c3.gif

John

11/18/2005 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bubba hyde said...
Three or four weeks ago, George Noory mentioned on Coast to Coast that there were some government whistle blowers that he was looking forward to talking to as soon as these individuals tidied some things up vis a vis families, retirements and safety. Nothing else has been said.

Sword:
How god damm interesting is that!

I told another officer who posted frequently about how fast things would move.
C'mon buddy - I know you listening (reading) - the time is nigh!
Post it! Do it!

SHOW THEM!

Sword.

11/18/2005 12:10:00 AM  
Blogger coqui said...

Anonymous said...

unipax said...
I think (maybe) a different episode of West Wing alluded to a secret shuttle...?

Sword:
Didn't I say thats not what I was talkin' 'bout?
Whuz up brother? :-)

Sword
<<
Yup, and I was addressing the rest o da room as well as yerself, in case someone knew if it were in a different episode.
What's your take on Clan Destine, please?
uni

Hey thubderbolt,

I think Sunking has to grease each post after it appears instead of locking them out.
uni

11/18/2005 12:24:00 AM  
Blogger coqui said...

thunderbolt,
thanks for yr take on Clan Destine.
Your Tesla toy sounds like lotsa BIG fun...
uni

11/18/2005 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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11/18/2005 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thursday, November 17, 2005
HHMSS
Sword

Guinness is the nectar of the gods…

Now on to posts:


jasgrave333 said...
Sword, do you really expect a serious answer?
Your still an ANONYMOUS, get a REAL handle, even John Boy got a handle, what are you so scared of?

Sword:
I have been lazy.
The “pro’s” of posting seem to have collio’ pictures to go with there profiles, for example, you, Eric, and Rich. I am working on something to accompany my posts in the same manner.


IonTruO2 said...
What a major eye opener to realize that you and I are more soul brothers than one could have ever guessed in this impending situation. I have slowly come to realize that I am "accidentally" participating in the big effort. I am not under any oaths and was not privy. Thats the synchrony of this awakening, paths leading to a flash of illumination and personal discovery. Being careful not to say too much, I'll just say- Tower.
Thank you, good America, sincerely from this northern friend.

Funny, the shyness that forms around the weight of big knowledge.
I have just received an empathy lesson, mr. fly guy Sword.

Sword:
Tower… … Tower… … Does three fortresses mean anything to you? Don’t post it, but can you remember them? Brother N*** - are you waking? I have been thinking of our service in the “hells sandbox”. I keep remembering the fellow Sword who got one in the chest and almost kicked the bucket – but I can’t remember his name… …his face is blurred. I hope he is doing well. It’s odd this “civillian” dream is it not? I love my life – but being a lamb is starting to make me angry. Its rough going all day knowing you can hurt people who desreve it – but by some reason, I am still the lamb. Our religious guidance is SO VERY strong.


ericswan said...

Sword..could you find it in your 'art to comment on this linK?

Sword:
I thought for sure that I essentially did.
In the early days of unit Sword – this subject came up a lot. It was something very tangible that the men could see. It was a matter of top priority to them to have that question answered. Being the commander – and getting the proper clearances – I asked for a report.
The report was 100% science and 1% layman’s terms.
So, Las Vegas is getting a lot as well? Now the people are wondering?
Like I said before – I see more and more of them as the pollution and traffic levels in my city increase. I am almost certain that the increase in “chem-trail” activity in Las Vegas is do to the increase in commuter traffic.
Also – like I said before – its organic – and eats carbon monoxide. The piolets are certainoly masons while I can not confirm that.


unipax said...
So, what were you talking about, and which other episodes?

Sword:
There is one episode that has the two key words in it that I was waiting for a long, long time.
Dial Sword.

If anyone has a transcript of a West Wing episode that has these two key words – please by all means post the transcript, episode number, etc, etc.

There is another episode that is so heavy with Masonic symbolism it blew me away. It was the symbolism, not the script. I am certain to figure it out eventually… …

Sword

11/18/2005 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.

Writen by: John Lennon

11/18/2005 01:42:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

Any story that glorifies, sanctifies or justifies Black Ops should be suspect.
You!
You! You're Good!


That you cannot trust your heart in these matters. I am trained in chicanery and deception;
time-honoured Roman family values that brought glory to the Patrician Order and the Senate.

Black Ops are White ops during an eclipse.

11/18/2005 03:52:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

Only last year in an area called Ghazaliya, one such house was discovered. It was on a smaller scale though. My cousin lives in Ghazaliya and he said that when the Americans got inside, they found several corpses and a man hanging from the ceiling on a makeshift noose. The neighbors had tried to get the Americans to check the house for months- no one bothered. They finally raided it because they got information from someone in the area that it was an insurgents hiding place. I read once that in New York, if a woman is being raped, she should scream 'fire' instead of 'rape' because no one would come to save her if she was screaming 'rape'. That's the way it is with Iraqi torture houses- the only way they'll check it is if you tell them it's a terrorist cell.

And another thing- you know when they say 'men dressed in Ministry of Interior uniforms' or 'men in official cars claiming to be from the Ministry of Interior', etc. when describing some horror committed by the new Iraqi security forces in the news? Here's a thought: they aren't 'claiming' and they aren't in costume- they actually ARE from the Ministry of Interior! One would think they'd do this covertly so as not to enrage Iraqis or humanitarian organisations, except that it doesn't matter to them because SCIRI and Da'awa aren't out to win hearts and minds. They have American favor- what more does one need in the New Iraq?

For over a year corpses have been turning up all over Baghdad. Corpses of people who are taken from their homes in the middle of the night (lately they've been more brazen- they just do everything in the light of day), and turn up dead somewhere. That isn't as disturbing as the reports about the bodies- the one I can't get out of my head is that many of the corpses are found with holes in the skull left by an electric drill.

I guess the lucky ones go to Abu Ghraib...…

And it's not only 'suspected insurgents' who disappear- Iraqi security forces have been known to raid complete areas and detain any males from the ages of 12 to 60- especially in Sunni areas. Those 'suspected terrorists' that are rounded up and taken away- you know where they disappear to now.

Interior Minister Bayan Jabr (SCIRI Thug-Made-Government-Official-In-Italian-Suits) is mollifying Iraqis with this little gem,

...the group included Shiites as well as Sunnis...…

I'm sure we can all sleep better at night with the knowledge that SCIRI/Da'awa torturers don't discriminate according to religious sect- under the new constitution, American military guidance, and the blessings of the Pentagon- all Iraqis will be tortured equally.

11/18/2005 04:34:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

RAPE! RAPE!
no
FIRE! FIRE!

The Sunking Appellation: Isn't that Louis Quatorze? Didn't he end up with his Gulliver separated from his torso?

11/18/2005 04:39:00 AM  
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11/18/2005 04:44:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

Sun King writes a congresscritter; gets back a form letter and all I got was "Disclosure Delayed" T- Shirt.

11/18/2005 05:30:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

Line by line Military appropriation budget
There might be some wars where whacks like Dick Cheney served only in the sense that they served others.

They hand the feed that bites.

11/18/2005 05:42:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

I would like extoll the virtues of SCIRI and Da'awa.
In Middle Eastern Oil-industry "cut-outs" your organizations have stood out above oher less "honorable"
religious pimping structures.
The other religious pimping structure is the Expendable Enterprise crewmember.

11/18/2005 06:05:00 AM  
Blogger DarkWood said...

Sunking,

You've got mail. :-) Check it out and do let me know what you think, please.

DarkWood

11/18/2005 06:23:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Hi guys/gals...

I found this amusing story on space.com...

http://www.space.com/spacewatch/051118_night_sky.html

Ssl4000g, it's below freezing here...

John

11/18/2005 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>crypt0 said...

Maybe George was talking about RCH's haarpicane tipster from the inside ?

Any story that glorifies, sanctifies or justifies Black Ops should be suspect. In fact, I suspect that our own Sword is here for that purpose : to put the focus back on expensive planted delusions called Hollywoodisms. All reinforce the silly notion that Freemasons rule the world, while there are glorious yet hush-hush battles going on somewhere that we can't see (too stupid and untrustworthy to understand). Their modus operandi is to deploy proselytizers to promote belief in believing and to fatigue us all into compliance that we owe secret societies thanks and praise.

The reality is : secret societies are the fungus among us.

11/18/2005 02:41:20 AM <

Crypto,

When I heard this my initial thought was that it was related to Able-Danger. Some reports that I had come across suggested that additional officers were coming forward. I didn't think anything else about it until a few days ago when I realized that it had not materialized.

11/18/2005 08:43:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

john,
Same here, sunny, clear and cold. Was 32* on the way in.

11/18/2005 08:51:00 AM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

SWORD,
hello
you said:Tower… … Tower… … Does three fortresses mean anything to you? Don’t post it, but can you remember them? Brother N*** - are you waking? I have been thinking of our service in the “hells sandbox”. I keep remembering the fellow Sword who got one in the chest and almost kicked the bucket – but I can’t remember his name… …his face is blurred. I hope he is doing well. It’s odd this “civillian” dream is it not? I love my life – but being a lamb is starting to make me angry. Its rough going all day knowing you can hurt people who desreve it – but by some reason, I am still the lamb. Our religious guidance is SO VERY strong.


iontruo2--->No, not me. Awakening yes, but not that close a brother.

here is my point of discovery:
I realized that a small innocent little tower that I agreed to have at my place is likely used for more than just a "receiving" antennae as I was told.
In fact there was an interesting event just yesterday that helped re-enforce my emerging understanding. WE had winds here of 75km/perhr and they were intense. A slight brown out of my lights and then a loud snapping blast, like a shot gun but lasting longer than 3 seconds and tapering off was heard through my forrest and field.
Then poof!, instant dead calm no wind whatsoever. Weather management in effect, I think.
Well looky that, the tower transmits or emits too.
From my, studies of the scalar device at naudin's site which looks just like my neigbouring attennae, I believe now that the EM Tool is multipurpose and is very much the same type of thing to be used for our collective defense in dealing with the debris field. Communications, weather control, or use as a shielding wind to deflect is just variations on the same technique. Anti-gravity follows much of the same criteria as well. Its all in the math and not quite as much in the amount of power. Although my tower did come with a nice box size transformer!
What was interesting is that when the agency was setting up the tower and site, I remember one guy say to me that the American's were paying for all of it. Now that sounded odd, considering this is Canada. I know we share alot together but I didn't think that much love.
There are five towers that form a large triangulating square across the whole region here. I host one of them. Nothing but a little white tubular attennae standing vertical at the top. They have no signs no lights no beacons and are all on rented land. Hiding in plain sight, for the good of all.

I know this is not your specific area of service SWORD, but it is profound, that in the midst of all this Blog activity, to now get eyes wide open to the situation, already in place, right under my own nose here. To serve a role however unexpectedly, in the care of people.
This is the miracle of true synchronicity. A tie in to the bigger story and the larger mission. With real awakenings there is a weighted feeling as one starts to understand the "gravity" of the situation. I feel now the burden of certain knowledge and its unsharable qualities.

Stay the Lamb, Sword you have a great mission and you are an individual tuned to that immense role.
The chastisements of the societal puppet masters is not really your role to contend with with. You are serving most directly, the key cause of simply dealing with what is before us. It obviously can't just be ignored and this society is spiritually not ready to just welcome the end. So, God Go With You Sword. Fly true when you do.

I see now that your role as a disclosure liasson here was to be presented as ordinary joe, an everyman, speaking the basic banter, and guaging the reponse your info got. good job.



Be the Sword, be the Shield, be the Harp, be the Lamb. But don't be the Mad Cow! lol ha ha ha :)

Always rememember: if Mozart makes you smarter, then bud will make you wiser. (budweiser!, get it!! lol :))

o.k. to early for comedic relief..

11/18/2005 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sunking,
great new post. If I didn't know better, I would almost think RCH trained you himself !
Thing is though, those black ops budgets get erased from public scrutiny. The only way you could figure it out is to add up all revenue and compare it against stated expenditures. The difference = black ops + crooks & drugs. The point is, that triangular space plane is probably out there anyway. Maybe sometime you can track down the writers for "West Wing" and find out where they get their material !
Oh, by the way..I have attracted my own ejit now...makes me feel like I'm doing my job !

11/18/2005 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow...thanks for the kudo, as always....and the html link, NS.

Darkwood,
you have mail in return!

Sword,
Must be synchronicity...I don't recall your mention. Damned loss of short-term memory....

John,
The pic is of FALCON, a joint DARPA/Air Force project. Go here:
FALCON - A New Way To Kill From Our Friends At DARPA

Bio-Unit,
They didn't have a XXL t-shirt. What can I say?

Ericswan,
I never heard THAT take on the foam issue. Interesting. Believable!!!

Uni,
Nice swift synopsis about 19.5/33.

Ya know, the only real criticism I have with TEM is that there was never any one article that I could give to friends that would cover the Face on Mars/Cydonia/General Non-Disclosure all on 1 or two pages. Meaty subject matter I know, but I would have liked to have something to direct newcomers to, other than having to recommend they buy "Monuments" (which was a great book!).

Did I miss anybody?

AH, TB2012...
I agree, very hard to break down and no doubt spread widely.

Re eejits, you will notice I delete the anti-Bohemia posts as time allows...not timely enough, but I will delete virulent BS like that. A difference of opinion is one thing, and I abhor censorship as highly as all of you do. But F&$% A Bunch of BS like that!

Of...of the latest RCH conspiracy theories, I think Iontru02's yesterday was by far the best (despite my theory of the glitch with Wife 4.0 anti-porn-download module is, percentage-wise in America, being the most likely! LOL!)!!

11/18/2005 09:35:00 AM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

SunKing, been pondering how to enter your new blog for a bit, I mean if you think changing the subject is gonna slow me down...


just wanted to mention as today is Friday that TD 27 might be reforming later today as a TD or Storm...

The blog looks good SunKing, u r a star sah! and I mean dat, u done know...

...waitin for da BIG wind here today... it's gorgeous hot, sunny, a light sea brea... I'll errm be quiet :P

11/18/2005 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will entertain any new blog ideas or submissions from anyone... will even give your rights to directly write in the blog itself. I mean, we'll talk first, but, unless someone disagrees, the topic list can eb fairly open. I am amenable to your suggestions folks.

This last blog...didn't know what to write at all. Was trying to find something controversial, and something related to space/science. I was looking at something on the Global Security website and just happened onto something they had about the West Wing episode. TB2012 said I could have been trained by RCH...well, I thought back to the piece RCH did on the 'Life on Mars' episode, so that was my inspiration. Alas, I could not find a link the the entire script, just the small piece I used. So this last post was a conglomeration of info from 3 different sites. I WOULD like to see the complete script of 'Things Fall Apart' and give it the scrutiny Richard did to 'Mars'.

So with some plagarism and that nifty copy/paste feature, I managed to make do...but I felt it lacked more of my personal thoughts. Which is basically...we spend to much damn money and time and resources on building weapons and weapon systems.

For all the money the US has given to Russia, we should have made them close out the Kalashnikov factories. Every time we see 'trouble-makers' world-wide...be it Haiti, Somalia, the -stans, anywhere...the devils are sporting AK-47s! Now and AK-47 and the large quantities of ammo needed, if only for shooting in the air during funerals and demonstrations, does not come cheap...yet here's a chap in a breechcloth sporting one.

If any of these damn politicians, worldwide, were serious about Peace and Democracy, the why not put the weapons manufacturers out of business?

11/18/2005 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

SunKing, the quick answer is, that CAPATALISM, makes money from pain and war spending munition eejits...

War Mongerererers, are the Elites puppet for assisting the Elite be more F*CKING eejit elite...

(Uni if that was too subtle let me know ;)

Money and the lack of good foam for a shuttle, is all a DISNEY NASA DRAMATIC MOUSE FART FARCE...

Why the heck do they still pretend to use fossil fuels and sh!t...

We know, given enough of us tinkers (with the Monkey tied to a tree), we could probably build one of these Anti-Gravity machines...

War makes money for the OIL companies, steel companies, in fact it's all about GREED...

If I stress this too much, someone just hint :)

GREED and the LOVE of MONEY...

I am waiting for 'AN ALTERNATE' energy company release PRODUCTS, that run soley on water from electrolysing it, and once used does not have ANY METER between user and device to generate electrical power...

The START of the revelution...

11/18/2005 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh...Tb2012, you talked about budgets...if y'all take the link to the Budget .pdf that's in the Blog, search around and think in the language of Defense Appropriations, you might mind stuff on HAARP and other fun stuff. I had linked something like that at the CptB (Let's use that as shorthand for the Captain's Blog, CptB) but it skipped notice.

For example, here's a link that has HAARP and the words 'weather exploitation' all on the same page!

The Devil's In The Details

11/18/2005 10:35:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Sunking, I saw the picture, and it's similar to what I read in the latest "Popular Science"...

John

11/18/2005 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Jas,

But of course...it's those with the status keeping the staus quo.

The thing that irks me most is all this Administration's talk about spreading Democracy. A noble ideal...if it were true, for what it all feels like is spreading Corpocracy...and sorry, but that (aligned with your message about Greed) is the path to Hell, be it a Christian Hell or just a general 'Hell'.

11/18/2005 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not doubt that, John.

It was said for years that all the Soviets and the KGB needed to do was read Popular Science...and I'm sure they did!

11/18/2005 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, at least you had a nice warm lap, ms. T!

Good morning.

11/18/2005 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been reading further on that Devil's In The Detail's link I gave just above. Do read the fine print, folks...this thing is loaded with interesting stuff!

The EM Wave gradiometer stuff, while obstensibly used to track tuneels usewd by them that dopers and terraists...is also being used by the mining and oil industry.

ANd look at that stuff about HAARP and 'generating irregulatities in the ionosphere'. Yeah bud-dy!

11/18/2005 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know what o mean, T. I lived for 30 years in Pensacola, FL...now in Jax. I know your in LA, you must be in northern LA? Darn, you almost a Yankee!

11/18/2005 11:14:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Jas..numbers 4 u...

Kyoto Accord expires 2012

UN meeting Global Warming 333 day of 2005

Just thinking about Led Zepelin
Stairway to Heaven

..there are two paths you can go by...

in relation to Tesla, Bearden, Priore, Maxwell and RCH..

em has such finality to it and the boys in "blue" can't seem to grasp what it is they are playing with.

for instance, grokking "Porthole" through to PDF file Bearden..Man o man..he gives freely of a machine that can be mass produced with the prototype costing $100,000.00 and this machine and the science behind it reverses the aging process of each and every cell. You have to read this 130 p. epoch plezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzze.

Or ,,what they really spend their money on which sounds more like the Nazi deathcamps with radiation therapy chemotherapy, bypass surgery, vaccinations, on and on an on with the thought in the back of their minds that "we can make a buck on this".

Or antigravity travel versus fossil fuel travel plus chemtrails which will surely kill millions but hey we still get to make "billions" . Know what I mean?

These choices are in the balance. Doctors, car salemen, newspaper reporters, all out of work if they choose to unveil em

The military will use phosphorus on Fallujah but hang Saddam Hussein for using bw they sold him.

Free energy is one path or wipe out billions to make sure they pay for it on the other.

In a way, Evil is forcing Good to make their move and like Mrs. T pointed out earlier "good can be channeled" but "evil" works right in you face:".

11/18/2005 11:15:00 AM  
Blogger scarletm said...

Tis nippy here in Da Breeze too. Hows JAX?
I have on a cashmere sweater and a sweatshirt and I'm freezing! BUT I WILL NOT COMPLAIN. I'm sick of being hot-and the colder it gets means NO HURRICANES FOR 6 WHOLE MONTHS!!!!! I hope the Gulf Freezes! That water just has to get cooled down. I say LET IT SNOW!!!!!!!!!

11/18/2005 11:24:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Dr. John..something to chew on..LOL

http://www.cheniere.org/patent%20application/claim.htm

11/18/2005 11:24:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Prior to some recent quakes, scientists have detected electromagnetic pulses emanating from the ground and electromagnetic disturbances in the ionosphere, the planet's tenuous envelope of charged particles extending from about 80 to 1000 kilometres up. "There are definitely hints of something [electromagnetic] happening in the region of earthquakes before the earth moves," says Colin Price, a geophysicist at Tel Aviv University in Israel.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/earth/mg18825266.900

11/18/2005 11:28:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

And we thought HAARP was "spooky" enough already..Hmm.

http://www.rwonline.com/dailynews/one.php?id=8046

11/18/2005 11:41:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Good Morning Mrs. T.

I never did see a post to my blog which makes clandestine work for someone to keep me away from fellow travellers.

I copied and pasted C D's material to my blog because it was "original" and it was at a higher level of perception than alot of other "stuff" on the Internet. Are we in the final curl of the spiral ever tightening and in its 28th level..not quite.

I'm in the same sort of "boat" with Sword. "We" can't reveal what we know quite yet because, there is the "two paths you can go by" scenario and until that choice is made, the future remains untended..

The spiral or "Gyre" is the key to understanding. The hyperdimension is the field of play..

One possible clue for today..the reason the Incan calendar comes to an end in 2012 might be we stop dying and (timespace) stops pinging.

11/18/2005 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, T, he's a hot predictor. And we here did seem to notice that prior to the ramping up of the HAARPicanes this year, there was always an EQ, usually down near Nicaruagua. I think we all feel that that was and indicator of sumpin' "at work"!

swannie,
if we stop dying, do we stop being born?

11/18/2005 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A small kick in the teeth to "intelligent design". Do you think God might have buried this critter in Texas just for a laugh?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051117/ap_on_sc/dallasaurus

11/18/2005 12:01:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

worked all night receiving and now the stars are twinkling

this is a link to "my back yard"

http://www.piczo.com/Chemtrails?g=18770648&cr=1

11/18/2005 12:06:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Sunking..do we stop being born?

I was born again in 1983.

11/18/2005 12:08:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

Ericswan said...
One possible clue for today..the reason the Incan calendar comes to an end in 2012 might be we stop dying and (timespace) stops pinging."


Eric-I look at that statement two ways.
1)Yeah, who needs a time marker if immortality is at hand.
2)who needs a time marker if were all dead.

Which one is it?
All very ironic to me today as I found my first gray hair.

get this word verification:pospud

11/18/2005 12:08:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Please scroll to the bottom and download "the PDF" I read it back to front.

http://www.cheniere.org/briefings/porthole/index.htm

11/18/2005 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ericswan said...
Sunking..do we stop being born?

I was born again in 1983.


My condolences.

11/18/2005 12:18:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Did you read my rant on your blog?

11/18/2005 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somebody above mentioned White Phosphorus?

Everything You Wanted To Know About WP

11/18/2005 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rant? On MY Blog? Where?

11/18/2005 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've read all you've written and even went to you blogspot (I think that was yours) and I dinna see any rant, per se, ericswan

11/18/2005 12:31:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Matthew ch.12 vs..37

For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

11/18/2005 12:31:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

eric,
Whaddayamean please when you say...'worked all nite receiving'. Would you care to elaborate?
and yes, which rant?
uni

11/18/2005 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Take care of the cajones, let the frijoles take care of themselves" - Heinlein 3:11

11/18/2005 12:33:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

sorry Sunking..rant went on Scarletm's first blog..

11/18/2005 12:33:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

which brings me to the point of 19.5 vis a vis 19.47..Heinlein brings up the subject of how many decimal places and me being born literally and figuratively in 1950 take exception to your 19.5 rounding out.

hehehe.

11/18/2005 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Uni..up early eh?

I unload trucks. get it?

11/18/2005 12:37:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Mrs. T..it's not the "real" deal. It's just more sophisticated lies for more sophisticated people..

11/18/2005 12:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi folks..

" The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new lands, but seeing with new eyes"
- Marcel Proust



I found this quite interesting/observations.. scenario ala'sword..
Truth, conjecture, all so.. un-firm.. yet, the little tings that start to go ding diNG dING DING!
findable, all over the place, some obscure, some much more blatant.
if you look (=search, re.search), read, contemplate, correlate, meditate.

http://www.viewzone.com/nemesis.html

-snip-
"We were driven to this by rejecting everything else we could think of," says University of Louisiana physicist Daniel Whitmire.

Clump of Comets

A couple years ago, Whitmire, along fellow physicists John Matese and Patrick Whitman, noticed the farthest points of the comets' orbits didn't appear random but bunched together, tracing a path across the sky.

"We accidentally noticed they weren't uniform," Whitmire says.

First, they tried to explain the clumping from the gravitational pull from a main disk of stars in the Milky Way stars. "That ultimately didn't work," Whitmire says. "We've gone through several other models trying to explain this."

At around the same time, John Murray, a planetary scientist at The Open University in Great Britain, made a similar observation in similar comet data. "I started puzzling what this might could be," he says.

The most obvious but seemingly unlikely explanation would be a planet. "I thought we¹d better rule that out," he says. But as he analyzed the orbits, the farthest points appeared to fall on a circular orbital path -- "which is exactly what you would expect if there was a planet out there."

As the planet -- estimated to have a mass between one and 10 Jupiters -- orbits, its gravitational wake disturbs the icy debris of the outer solar system, causing some of it to plunge toward the sun as comets, sort of like an elephant ambling through a china shop.

No one has yet directly observed a 10th planet, and there could still be another cause for the cluster of comets.

[The University of Louisiana research will be published in an upcoming issue of the journal Icarus. Murray's paper appears in the Oct. 11 issue of the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.]

11/18/2005 12:43:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

..rant went on Scarletm's first blog..

There is no rant there eric...simply an invitation to someone elses blog and a kind note from you.

11/18/2005 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

eric,
Early? Nah. After 7 already.
OK, that kind of receiving. Thank you. I was (seriously) wondering what kinda receiving: a) Ham radio, b) telepathy, c) meditiation/intuition, d) contraband (joke, 'all nite', get it?) But a, b, & c were for real. Thanks for clarifying.
This is a community. I think a degree of familiarity enhances what we do here. So that's why I asked.


re your 'backyard' link:
http://www.piczo.com/Chemtrails?g=18770648&cr=1
In the third pic, to left of log, looks like a small person prone in snow, wearing black boots and blue jeans, maybe a green shirt. Is that for real?
I'm still chewing on the rest of that page. The caption does not match all the pics, but I get the drift generally.
uni

11/18/2005 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.viewzone.com/haarp.exec.html

HAARP 'EXECUTIVE SUMMARY'
HF ACTIVE AURORAL RESEARCH PROGRAM
JOINT SERVICES PROGRAM PLANS AND ACTIVITIES
AIR FORCE GEOPHYSICS LABORATORY
NAVY OFFICE OF NAVAL RESEARCH


More excellent HAARP background info here:
http://www.viewzone.com/haarp00.html

and THIS, well, truly an outstanding, interesting saga.
http://www.viewzone.com/vz.message.html



Peace.

11/18/2005 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ms. T said...
>Ok, I have a crazy question for u all. Does anyone know anything about why flies would gather in a window with no food or anything there. Kill them all and then there are twice as many in the same window the next morning with no one going in and out for the flies to come in? I know about the old wives tale about flies in the window means death is coming to someone in the house but anyone else got a take on it other than that? FREAKY!!!
11/18/2005 12:50:58 PM

No worries Ms. T, usualy the flies congregate cuz the body is *already* deterio..

No, seriously, We used to have a summer place in wisonsin and every fall/now zillians of em
would show up in he windows. No, nobody ever died soon thereafter. they just tryin to get out, catch some raze b4 goin shiny side down. They can come in thru all kinds of small openings, attic or etc..
But never a problem other than being just a pain in the arse.

11/18/2005 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

ms t,
re your 11/18/2005 01:02:27 AM
Yes. I forget where, but RCH and others have said that is one big reason the con system is set up to impede and distract us from realizing our true potential. Metaphysical implications of disclosure. Hidden in plain sight?
uni

11/18/2005 01:09:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

Ms T, am back, had a few spliffs to share up da rum shack, it's gorgeous today, da breeze has all but stopped, the see has gone glassy...

like, whoaa, pull out da joint, light up, and chat bout tonights lime... (party hang out dance, etc)

what a day here, tropical with birds a cheapin and bears a bein drunk...

rum's flowing good and da ganja tasing sweet...

[hisssss...]


see ericswan I can finish a thought, about something or other...

11/18/2005 01:58:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

...yes flies are a realllly bad sign, like BAD...


read it somewhere... they picture flying insects... like wings and exo-skeletoness...

bad bad bad...

also cover over your food, they got cuties...

other than that, had a flat in next to the THAMES near London (UK) (u know who you are...)

any way, it was an old 18th century victorian, munsters type house, set in pictorous English country side... I'm waffling so I'll full forward the to the point...


3rd floor window, where I kept my old IBM PS2 PC, was a window, that one warm summers evening I decided to open...

I didn't know what to do, when a billion black flies flew out of the windows frame...

I was in shock for what seemed like long enough to not be able to scream at all...

horrible ting to see...

Anyway you had a question(s)?

11/18/2005 02:06:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

also note to anyone online, am on MSN and Yahoo

as

jasgrave333@hotmail.com

jasgrave333@yahoo.com

IM me too...

jasgrave333.blogspot.com

Sorry SunKing you were saying...

11/18/2005 02:09:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

..."great time" would be like saying that the pope is catholic...

passin da dube, anyone...?

11/18/2005 02:26:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

MAP 4.9 2005/11/18 16:45:08 -8.563 113.177 63.8 JAVA, INDONESIA
MAP 5.2 2005/11/18 16:36:01 51.073 157.931 48.4 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF KAMCHATKA, RUSSIA
MAP 5.0 2005/11/18 16:14:59 2.996 94.031 30.0 OFF THE WEST COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA

thing are really a shakin areound the globe.

11/18/2005 02:38:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

DJBarney, was good to hear from you too, bro, u was on da right path to start, flouride in da water was mi suspision that health 'authorities' weren't stacking the cards in our favour...

Back at ya Ms T...

11/18/2005 03:03:00 PM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

This blog was so well done, at first I thought I was reading RCH himself. Very good work, Sunking!

P.S. for those of us who are red/green colourblind, you might want to use a different colour to highlight the budget items. It's a little hard on the eyes.

11/18/2005 03:15:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

Tropical Storm Gama has just formed - Weather Channel...

11/18/2005 03:52:00 PM  
Blogger bryansail said...

just felt an earthquake under mi feet. VERY MILD one, went to usgs site
and it is bombs away ACTIVE at this very hour at least 3 shakers in different
areas in CALIFORNIA, late for my damn job. More later.
Might want to take a look, seems excessively active at this very moment here
-bryan from San Bernardino, California

11/18/2005 03:59:00 PM  
Blogger bryansail said...

http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/latest.htm

11/18/2005 04:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

starshipconstellation,
Thanks you! And I had not thought of color blindness....good tip, one I can correct right now.

One siesmic site I like is here:

Seismic Monitor

11/18/2005 04:06:00 PM  
Blogger DarkWood said...

blasted,

Well, you beat me those ViewZone articles, hehehe. I had read the 'Fire From the Sky' one many, many moons ago. At the time, I had discounted it as disturbing and interestingly written, but likely total fiction nonetheless. Considering the budget anomalies SunKing pointed out above, though, and I have to wonder.

Definitely something to ponder.

DarkWood

11/18/2005 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scarletm said....
"All very ironic to me today as I found my first gray hair.

get this word verification:pospud "

Naaa, it 's just a hair that is slightly MORE BLONDE than the rest.
pospud = the slightly undersize baked potato you will have for dinner tonight !

11/18/2005 04:28:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

ericswan said...
And we thought HAARP was "spooky" enough already..Hmm.

http://www.rwonline.com/dailynews/one.php?id=8046


I looked at the article, and I'm not sure what you meant by HAARP being "spooky enough already..."

John

11/18/2005 04:38:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

Tropical Storm Gama has just formed - Weather Channel...

and there was amild EQ in NIC yesterday.....

hummmmmmm

11/18/2005 04:39:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

I mean, I've seen what they can do, but how's this article making them "spookier"?

11/18/2005 04:39:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Thanks for the heads-up, scarletm...

John

11/18/2005 04:40:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

i posted how shakey things were earlier

11/18/2005 04:41:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

No chemtrails here at all today, ssl4000g...

11/18/2005 04:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those who still freeze with terror when they hear the term "Al Qaida", maybe a little de-programming ? Pif, if you don't come out for this one, I KNOW you are history !

from waynemadsenreport.com

November 18, 2005 -- More on Al Qaeda -- the database. Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that "Al Qaeda" is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. Courtesy of World Affairs, a journal based in New Delhi, WMR can bring you an important excerpt from an Apr.-Jun. 2004 article by Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former agent for French military intelligence.

"I first heard about Al-Qaida while I was attending the Command and Staff course in Jordan. I was a French officer at that time and the French Armed Forces had close contacts and cooperation with Jordan . . .

"Two of my Jordanian colleagues were experts in computers. They were air defense officers. Using computer science slang, they introduced a series of jokes about students' punishment.

"For example, when one of us was late at the bus stop to leave the Staff College, the two officers used to tell us: 'You'll be noted in 'Q eidat il-Maaloomaat' which meant 'You'll be logged in the information database.' Meaning 'You will receive a warning . . .' If the case was more severe, they would used to talk about 'Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.' Meaning 'the decision database.' It meant 'you will be punished.' For the worst cases they used to speak of logging in 'Al Qaida.'

"In the early 1980s the Islamic Bank for Development, which is located in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, like the Permanent Secretariat of the Islamic Conference Organization, bought a new computerized system to cope with its accounting and communication requirements. At the time the system was more sophisticated than necessary for their actual needs.

"It was decided to use a part of the system's memory to host the Islamic Conference's database. It was possible for the countries attending to access the database by telephone: an Intranet, in modern language. The governments of the member-countries as well as some of their embassies in the world were connected to that network.

"[According to a Pakistani major] the database was divided into two parts, the information file where the participants in the meetings could pick up and send information they needed, and the decision file where the decisions made during the previous sessions were recorded and stored. In Arabic, the files were called, 'Q eidat il-Maaloomaat' and 'Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.' Those two files were kept in one file called in Arabic 'Q eidat ilmu'ti'aat' which is the exact translation of the English word database. But the Arabs commonly used the short word Al Qaida which is the Arabic word for "base." The military air base of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia is called 'q eidat 'riyadh al 'askariya.' Q eida means "a base" and "Al Qaida" means "the base."

"In the mid-1980s, Al Qaida was a database located in computer and dedicated to the communications of the Islamic Conference's secretariat.

"In the early 1990s, I was a military intelligence officer in the Headquarters of the French Rapid Action Force. Because of my skills in Arabic my job was also to translate a lot of faxes and letters seized or intercepted by our intelligence services . . . We often got intercepted material sent by Islamic networks operating from the UK or from Belgium.

"These documents contained directions sent to Islamic armed groups in Algeria or in France. The messages quoted the sources of statements to be exploited in the redaction of the tracts or leaflets, or to be introduced in video or tapes to be sent to the media. The most commonly quoted sources were the United Nations, the non-aligned countries, the UNHCR and . . . Al Qaida.

"Al Qaida remained the data base of the Islamic Conference. Not all member countries of the Islamic Conference are 'rogue states' and many Islamic groups could pick up information from the databases. It was but natural for Osama Bin Laden to be connected to this network. He is a member of an important family in the banking and business world.

"Because of the presence of 'rogue states,' it became easy for terrorist groups to use the email of the database. Hence, the email of Al Qaida was used, with some interface system, providing secrecy, for the families of the mujaheddin to keep links with their children undergoing training in Afghanistan, or in Libya or in the Beqaa valley, Lebanon. Or in action anywhere in the battlefields where the extremists sponsored by all the 'rogue states' used to fight. And the 'rogue states' included Saudi Arabia. When Osama bin Laden was an American agent in Afghanistan, the Al Qaida Intranet was a good communication system through coded or covert messages.

"Al Qaida was neither a terrorist group nor Osama bin Laden's personal property . . . The terrorist actions in Turkey in 2003 were carried out by Turks and the motives were local and not international, unified, or joint. These crimes put the Turkish government in a difficult position vis-a-vis the British and the Israelis. But the attacks certainly intended to 'punish' Prime Minister Erdogan for being a 'toot tepid' Islamic politician.

" . . . In the Third World the general opinion is that the countries using weapons of mass destruction for economic purposes in the service of imperialism are in fact 'rogue states," specially the US and other NATO countries.

" Some Islamic economic lobbies are conducting a war against the 'liberal" economic lobbies. They use local terrorist groups claiming to act on behalf of Al Qaida. On the other hand, national armies invade independent countries under the aegis of the UN Security Council and carry out pre-emptive wars. And the real sponsors of these wars are not governments but the lobbies concealed behind them.

"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the 'TV watcher' to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US and the lobbyists for the US war on terrorism are only interested in making money."

In yet another example of what happens to those who challenge the system, in December 2001, Maj. Pierre-Henri Bunel was convicted by a secret French military court of passing classified documents that identified potential NATO bombing targets in Serbia to a Serbian agent during the Kosovo war in 1998. Bunel's case was transferred from a civilian court to keep the details of the case classified. Bunel's character witnesses and psychologists notwithstanding, the system "got him" for telling the truth about Al Qaeda and who has actually been behind the terrorist attacks commonly blamed on that group. It is noteworthy that that Yugoslav government, the government with whom Bunel was asserted by the French government to have shared information, claimed that Albanian and Bosnian guerrillas in the Balkans were being backed by elements of "Al Qaeda." We now know that these guerrillas were being backed by money provided by the Bosnian Defense Fund, an entity established as a special fund at Bush-influenced Riggs Bank and directed by Richard Perle and Douglas Feith.

11/18/2005 04:41:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

be careful brian

11/18/2005 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jman,
if it got around that a large group of people could alter the course or fate of a hurricane...the would no doubt be twice that many people trying to think to the hurricane into a Cat 10.

Did I see that DjBarney made it? Good!

OH, we have a 'Guest Blogger' next week! "ain't it cooooool?"

11/18/2005 04:42:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Ah, well I haven't been on the computer for most of the day, and I skimmed through the posts...

John

11/18/2005 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John,
"spookier" because now HAARP will be a full power (add CAT 6 storm to the menu?). Plus 'spook' in the sense of black ops intel types being called spooks.

11/18/2005 04:44:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

Ms. T said...
uni,
experimentation would prove it. we have a great community of ppl here. We should try connecting our energies. Just a thought
11/18/2005 01:17:59 PM
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Jman95 said...
With all this talk about impending asteroid strikes and rogue planets,
Maybe the solution for all of this is right under our noses, if we could effect mass conciousness with meditation or prayer, what would the combined focus of several thousand or million people
<
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I like "don't need craft".
Art Bell ran such an experiment on weather and got results.
T'zemt wrote up her version a while back, during Katrina.
Crew, anyone know, is there a way to search the blog for entries by name of poster?
uni

11/18/2005 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TB2012,

Funny...all the time reading your post I kept recalling that there was no such thing as South Vietnam...until the CIA came along!

11/18/2005 04:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From Drudge .. Tropical Storm Gamma may be headed towards Florida ... wonder how they will explain away a hurricane coming ashore at the end of November...

Re mass consciousness .. Art Bell proved that it works. There were several experiments we listeners to Coast did in the late 90's, and the results were stunning. Then Art started freaking .. he would not do them anymore. Long story, & most people do not know the real reasons behind it, but he backed away from it & discouraged George & anyone else from doing it.
George still would do an occasional mass consciousness 'experiment' but he does not know how to do it correctly so results were sporadic (although often still dramatic). Recently he has backed away as well.

Bottom line, it works .. but it must be done correctly. 1) all minds must be focused at the same time 2) the request must be very very specific. #2 was where GN would mess up, he would say "make the hurricane go away". Go where? strengthen even more & take out someplace else?
The only safe thing to say to a hurricane is: reduce strength, disorganize, dispurse.
Whatever is asked must be well thought out in advance & asked specifically.
Ian Punnett (Saturday night host on Coast) is the only one left who is still willing to do mass consciousness & he understands how to do it & he understand the difference between mass consciouness and prayer. Both work; prayer works differently.

If we, as a planet, can get 'connected' in time, we won't have to worry about incoming asteroids .. we *will* be able to deflect them .. and do many other things as well .. with the power of our collective minds. The question is ... "IF" ...

BTW as long as this is practically a novel .. I was thinking, it is unlikely but possible that we could be suddenly shut down, this blog I mean. Strange times are coming. If that did happen, we have no way of re-connecting since I believe most of us do not know who everyone is .. i.e. email addresses, maybe even physical addresses.
Since there are trolls here, it would not be advisable to post email addresses here. But .. something to think about. How could we safely exchange information?
Also, I was wondering if it would be a good idea to have an email list on smartgroups or yahoogroups in addition to this blog .. the kind where you send an email & everyone subscribed gets it. Maybe some pre-screening (related to above) could eliminate the trolls from getting on that list.
Just some thoughts.

NS

We are powerful spiritual beings, we just have to remember...

11/18/2005 04:52:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

blasted said...

http://www.viewzone.com/haarp.exec.html

HAARP 'EXECUTIVE SUMMARY'
HF ACTIVE AURORAL RESEARCH PROGRAM
JOINT SERVICES PROGRAM PLANS AND ACTIVITIES
AIR FORCE GEOPHYSICS LABORATORY
NAVY OFFICE OF NAVAL RESEARCH


More excellent HAARP background info here:
http://www.viewzone.com/haarp00.html

and THIS, well, truly an outstanding, interesting saga.
http://www.viewzone.com/vz.message.html



Peace.

11/18/2005 12:57:50 PM
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Wow. The last one is quite a read!
thanx blasted
uni

11/18/2005 04:54:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

nightstar,
thank you. great info.
I've also thought of how to preserve this community, if blog goes down.
Maybe we could privately send our contact info to one of us. Then that one could send back the list to each of us. Would that work?
uni

11/18/2005 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anybody been over at the CYdonia Smoking Room on Yahoo lately? Heard from Robert, et al?

NS,
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cydonia_Smoking_Room/

Uni,
Nov. 18, mi lad! ;)

11/18/2005 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

uni,
good idea.

all should know my email, as I've posted it lots and it's also in my profile (I think), so send it to me.

sunking814@hotmail.com

I am reigning likewise on yahoo, too. There you can also add 40, 41 and 42 and get 3 outcomes with the same result.

11/18/2005 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for me to head home....will check back later tonight, or tomorrow.

Stay warm!

11/18/2005 05:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good article on Earth resonance/ noise (technical!)

http://www.vlf.it/naturalnoisefloor/naturalnoisefloor.htm

seperated out this informative little tidbit that I wasn't aware of:

"In 1952, W.O. Schumann predicted the existence of electromagnetic resonances in the earth-ionosphere quasi-spherical shell cavity. Schumann proposed that the resonance frequencies are given by,
fn = 7.49[n(n + 1)]½, for n= 1, 2, 3, ...


This equation yields f1 = 10.6 Hz, f2 = 18.4 Hz, and so on. It was not until the early 1960s when Balser and Wagner5 of MIT Lincoln Lab, under a contract to study electromagnetic effects of high-altitude nuclear explosions, observed that the nuclear electromagnetic pulse excited the earth-ionosphere cavity and caused resonances. Their measured results of the resonance peaks were somewhat lower in frequency than the proposed Schumann Resonance (SR) frequencies in that f1-5 = 7.8, 14.2, 19.6, 25.0, and 32 Hz. The difference has since been shown to be due to ionospheric losses and not an error in Schumann’s proposal. These differences have been used as a diagnostic of propagation conditions. "

11/18/2005 05:33:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

I am cool with dropping someone an email so we all can keep a going.

Wayne

11/18/2005 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

Smile, da flash from this bright spot, will prob mek more dan ya teeth sparkle...

http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/images/latest_eit_171.gif

double filament...

someting heading this way sooooooon...

11/18/2005 07:16:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

ericswan said...
Hihihi T'Z
I visited your space last night..I work at midnight so had to fly but did you notice what I brought? Way up by the donuts. It was smoke and it curled and wheeled and lofted. The room is kinda empty but then four and a half miles long is kinda a big venue. Maybe more will find their way.
Richard..getting back to the original issue, which is my nature, I found the HD link of past present and future to this blog ...http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/1999.htm
I think we know who the king is cause it's the only word that comes out of his mouth. I guess the crew is going to see for the first time that Starbuck is already aboard the Starship and the Starship is "happily" US.

6/10/05 7:00 PM

This is a post from well October.

At the time, I was taping CNN between 6 and 18 hours a day..every day..Shortly after "this post" whuzhisname stopped saying the
"T" word and even as we speak, he still won't say it. That is where we are with this blog and how "synchronizing" our minds, works.

11/18/2005 07:53:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

The Great King of the Mongols....

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/1999.htm

(the great King of the Mongols) by the last July of this millennium. Genghis Khan united the Mongolians of the Central Asian steppes into an all-conquering army that forged the largest land empire in history. The vast Islamic western wing of his empire included modern-day Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, and the Central Asian republics of the former Soviet Union


Now who do we know that is "shooting" for the above empire?

11/18/2005 08:05:00 PM  
Blogger Gort said...

Good post Sunking!

Just saw on NBC news tonight that Tropical Storm Gamma is alive and well and could hit Florida next week as a hurricane.

There was also a story about how the Key West fishing industry (rock crabs and lobsters) was hit hard this year by hurricanes.

An animated map showed the paths of Dennis, Katrina, Rita, and Wilma all passing near Key West.
What the map showed, but they didn't say, was that the four hurricane paths bassically crossed at the same spot west of Key West and northwest of Havana.
(twilight zone music)
Much like the four hurricanes that crossed near the same spot in central Florida in 2004.
Another hyperdimensional vortex?
Gort staying tuned

11/18/2005 08:21:00 PM  
Blogger tacodog said...

Uni:
To keep in touch, just let me know where you'd like me to send my address and will forward the info to there. Great Posts. Staying tuned.

11/18/2005 08:49:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

ms t,
looks like several are interested in yr idea about a back-up contact network.
tacodog,
I think Sunking volunteered to collect our info.
uni

11/18/2005 09:10:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

eric,
I wish I knew what u r talkin about in yr post at 11/18/2005 07:53:22 PM cuz it sounds interesting, I think.
Unless its a private conversation, in which case, never mind.
uni

11/18/2005 09:44:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

cryps,
Sunking is in Florida, near St Augustine.
I think there are other non-google blog sites.
uni

11/18/2005 09:47:00 PM  
Blogger DarkWood said...

nightstar said...
->The only safe thing to say to a hurricane is: reduce strength, disorganize, dispurse.<-

I'll grant you that and agree 100%. But there's still a perverse side of me that thinks, if enough people told it to reverse rotation and spin the other way, while being HIGHLY destructive for sure, would certainly go a LOT farther to waking up the minds of the masses that 'unnatural' shit be going on.

DarkWood

11/18/2005 10:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crypto/Uni
I am in Fleming Island, Fla, just due southwest of Jax. I can get to Jax or St. Augustine equally quickly...about 30 minutes on Sunday morning.

11/18/2005 11:26:00 PM  
Blogger Gort said...

Hayabusa scheduled to touch down on Itokawa asteroid at 6 pm (Japan Standard Time)Sunday november 20.
That is 4pm EST/3pm CST/2pm MST/1pm PST, Saturday, November 19.
I expect they will get a good close look-see at some really interesting stuff. I hope they share. :)

News and Topics

Gort

11/18/2005 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, the T'Z obviouslt was something addressed to T'Zemt, who I hope we see soon. Her big bellydancing performance was today, so perhaps she will have some free time and find us when she goes looking for us at the CptB.

Oh...Iontruo2 knows the words to say to diminish the storm.

OK...just dropped by to check on things. Back tomorrow.

Peace.

11/18/2005 11:30:00 PM  
Blogger Gort said...

Just took the dogs out. Was looking at Mars and the moon. Someone has a searchlight going just west of me. About 10:40 CST a meteor fell right across the belt of Orion. Cool!
Seems like just about every other
night this week I've seen a "shooting star". The other nights have been too cloudy.
Guess I should make a wish.

I wish Jaxa would release larger/higher resolution pictures of Itokawa surface :)
Gort

11/18/2005 11:48:00 PM  
Blogger Gort said...

You can maybe watch the Hayabusa landing here:

Hayabusa Live

will be on 2:00-9:00 JST, Nov 20 (Noon Eastern on Sat. 11/19)

BTW, on my last post, about the meteor the word verif. was "seedq"

Gort

11/18/2005 11:55:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

At the time, I was taping CNN between 6 and 18 hours a day..every day..Shortly after "this post" whuzhisname stopped saying the
"T" word and even as we speak, he still won't say it. That is where we are with this blog and how "synchronizing" our minds, works.

11/18/2005 07:53:22 PM

unipax said...
eric,
I wish I knew what u r talkin about in yr post at 11/18/2005 07:53:22 PM cuz it sounds interesting, I think.
Unless its a private conversation, in which case, never mind.
uni
We were on the subject of moving mountains with group mind meld and it occured to me that the one thing which interferes from a cohesive melding of the mind is "fear" and the mass media including Marshall McLuhan realizes there are "hot" and "cold" media both of which generate certain visceral responses in the participants. Marshall's last book was never published. I wonder how he would have viewed the internet, except to say that the "Internet" would be a library without a shelf.

I was in the Honour's Journalism program at the University of Western Ontario and took on an assignment about Spiro Agnew. The week after he was impeached I did a word search (line by line,,word by word) for "Spiro Agnew". Not one "word" was mentioned about him.
The conclusion I came to was that "a voice in mass media can be silenced" or mass media can make or break a voice or the mass media uses psy-op techniques..

Every sound bite from George W. Bush had the word "terror..terrorist...terrorism.." in it from 911 til the day of the above post. It was nauseating how he was "making fear" and basically pulling the plug on people cohesion. Nostradamus came to our rescue with the prophecy as I am sure he realized we needed the help. We got it.

Now if that doesn't clear up "King of TERROR" let me know, and I'll get back with MORE.

11/19/2005 12:01:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

addendum the word search line by line etc was done in "Time" Magazine. I got a B.

11/19/2005 12:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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11/19/2005 12:21:00 AM  
Blogger DarkWood said...

I can't help but notice that a lot of times when I make a posting, the responsive silence tends to be rather deafening, hehehe. I'm not sure if I should be happy that I've given you all so much to chew on or if I should be hurt that I am so easily ignored. Or maybe my rants on chaos tends to frighten unduly. Anyway, it's really not important, I don't think. I've needed a place where I can sound my insane mutterings without judgement, and whatever the reason for the unresponsiveness at least I haven't been flamed unto oblivion and so I guess I've found that place I've been seeking right here.

One thing's for sure, the conversations here have had ME thinking plenty and I've come to something of an epiphany. Perhaps some of you more enlightened souls can tell me if I may be onto something, or if I'm just finally slipping completely off the edge of reason. ;-)

It seems to me that ultimately, we are discussing conflict. Good vs. evil, rich vs. poor, elites vs. lambs, whatever terminology you choose, struggle is the bottom line here.

Jazzy, I notice you like to quote the 'love of Money is the root of all evil' scripture rather frequently and I've asked myself, what exactly is the love of Money when it comes right down to it? Hell, what is Money, really? To answer the first question, I suppose the obvious choice is Greed. But I suspect that to focus on money as the object of greed is something of a pitfall in and of itself. On a past blog, I made comments suggesting the single best thing we could do for ourselves as a society would be to do away with money, finance and economic models completely. That ultimately became yet another completely ignored suggestion, at least it appeared to have been ignored from where I sit. Likely, it just sounded way to 'pinko commie' for many of your sensibilities.

What I really meant by doing away with money, however, was that we, as a species, are going to HAVE to do away with petty power struggles if we ever hope to take that next evolutionary step. Which brings me to my second question, what is money? Money is nothing, a bauble, a material THING that has absolutely no value in and of itself and yet we ascribe unwarranted value to it. Why? I would suggest that, at the heart of it, money is nothing more than a metaphor, a symbol, for power. Those who have the money have the power, at least in their own minds and the minds of the masses which, sadly, effectively creates this consensus reality we currently share. So by focusing on lust for money as an intrinsic wrong, we are merely distracting ourselves from the real intrinsic error, lust for Power.

And yet, the masses are SO asleep as to be practically comatose. Perhaps we NEED the machinations of greed - wealth accumulation, war mongering and power madness - for these things which we so judiciously deem as EVIL and WRONG are the very tools that will ultimately force us to full wakefullness. When the masses have had all they can take and their backs are collectively against the wall and violence and bloodshed no longer are valid options, enlightenment and awakening will become the only thing left. 'Judge not', anyone?

Looking back over this tirade it suddenly becomes obvious that even I have been 'guilty' of veiled speech and spurious conversation even though I never realized it and thought I was completely honest all along. So here, then, is my level of understanding, such as it is, devoid of metaphor as best I can make it for all to see and consider.

I've never been so blunt before because I've never had the words to express myself so bluntly. I'm not even sure where these words are emanating from tonight, I just feel they're important for me to sound out, at least.

So I would suggest to you mystics, put away your symbols and rituals and evocations and banishings for they only serve to distract you as these also are symbols of power to be lusted after. Laughter is the best banishment, anyway. :-)

For the religious, I would suggest you put away your scriptures and doctrines and dogma for they only serve to distract you as these also are symbols of power to be lusted after and used to try and control the minds of one another. Love is the highest attainment of spirit, anyway.

For the scientific, I would suggest you put away your tools of measuring and instruments of facts for these ony serve to distract you as they are also symbols of power to be lusted after and used to prove one's rightness over another and hence are yet another system of control.

I could go on ad infinitum, I think, but I believe my point should be painfully obvious by now. It really is as RCH keeps telling us: "The lie is different at EVERY level". And it really seems to be true what the Discordians claim in their merry madness: "NOTHING is true; ALL is permissable".

Oh...my...do any of you ever feel as if you are on the verge of either perfect epiphany or absolute madness? Those of you who get that, I ask for your empathy as I am undergoing some very INTERESTING mental changes. I'm not sure where all this is going, but one thing's for sure: the ride is ANYTHING but boring.

My apologies for taking up so much space, but I really needed to get this out and the funny thing is, I still don't know why. One of life's many mysteries, I suppose.

Good night all, and know that despite the seeming 'dangerousness' of some of my suggestions, I truly have nothing but love in my heart and really hope to see humanity take that courageous step to the next level of being.

11/19/2005 01:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

unipax, it was me not ms.t who suggested the back up contact network.
Sunking posted his email above: sunking814@hotmail.com for those who missed it. Everyone email him & identify yourself in a way that he will know it is you and not a troll pretending to be you. When he has a list of people he feels is secure, he can email that list if there are special messages to convey and/or if we move again.
Ain't conspiracy great :-)))
(but, be prepared is never a bad idea...)

crypto, I have several websites under my control if one is needed anytime, I can also install a blog there & password protect it if necessary.
I don't want to administer the blog, but I can install & get it running, then pass the admiin part to sunking or whomever.

Gort said...
Hayabusa scheduled to touch down on Itokawa asteroid at 6 pm (Japan Standard Time)Sunday november 20.
That is 4pm EST/3pm CST/2pm MST/1pm PST, Saturday, November 19.
I expect they will get a good close look-see at some really interesting stuff. I hope they share. :)

I am in Japan so will check local TV and see if any coverage of note.

NS

11/19/2005 01:33:00 AM  
Blogger coqui said...

nightstar,
so sorry about that. wires crossed. thanks for tellin me. I do enjoy the reminders you have signed off with a few times; 'remember who you are'.
thanks
uni

11/19/2005 02:15:00 AM  
Blogger coqui said...

darkwood,
I'd not say your posts are ignored. The comment about money sparked some activity.
BTW I think Jasgrave agreed that money itself is a neutral thing.
Money is like an extension of personal power. So it does only that which we tell it to do.
uni

11/19/2005 02:25:00 AM  
Blogger coqui said...

I think it'd be cool if we included latitude and longitude in our contact info.
Wait, didn't Crypto say there was a better system :)
uni

11/19/2005 02:27:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

The spiral or "Gyre" is the key to understanding. The hyperdimension is the field of play..

I could have told you that! I have jpg's from a UFO sound that show incredible spiral complexity.
These were for everyone to see at the now defunct Warehouse33 site.
Only TEM forum members can see them now.
Anyone else can just ask me and I will email them.

They're strangely artistic; fractal; proof of Alien/Etc. super hi-tech!
Or just use the raw sound available on the TEM forum.
(total freakin' alien!!)

11/19/2005 05:39:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

Oh...my...do any of you ever feel as if you are on the verge of either perfect epiphany or absolute madness?

When I hit the (ski) moguls just right - loosey-goosey
When I hyper-dimensionally ice skate - getting out of your own way.

Look at the bright side. Dick Cheney gets to kill people all around the world and no one bothers him.
Texas Bounce
He's the son of a Bad Man
Shout out to the Clinton-Bush-Rockafella Gangster Clique.
From an O.G.

11/19/2005 06:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Darkwood;

I read EVERY post, (many twice or more) yours included. But I know how you feel, happens alot to me too. Do not interpret no or little response as no interest or not relevent, whatever. I find myself wanting to reply to each and every post. Most all posts seem to stir some level of profound thought process.. yet, a single full response would take up pages.. I just don't have the time to keep up as I would like. I usually end up with one liners or provide additional links, info etc.
I DO respond tho', at length, internally, mentally, to each and every post. 'responses' aren't necessarily as important to me as the awareness generated, the thought process, changes happening just by reading and mentally 'responding' to one's own belief structure/view of reality.

>'Judge not', anyone?
I posted this verse awhile back, after the sword bashing began. Responses to my posts pretty much died after that.
I found that interesting, judged for posting don't judge?.. lol.. point is, It kept ME from joining the fray.

>Oh...my...do any of you ever feel as if you are on the verge of either perfect epiphany or absolute madness?
More duality, perhaps, they are one in the same.

>Those of you who get that, I ask for your empathy as I am undergoing some very INTERESTING mental changes. I'm not sure where all this is going, but one thing's for sure: the ride is ANYTHING but boring.

Yes! Welcome to the 'AWAKENING' party, wherever it's going, your definetly not riding alone.
Just like 'The Lie', the 'awakenings' are different at every.

So, Keep posting.
You never know whose awakenng you will particiapte in.
caveat: The awakening you trigger may be your own.
All that matters is that it happens.

Peace.

11/19/2005 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just read the Dan Eden Tells All story from http://www.viewzone.com/vz.message.html
which was posted by blasted, above.
It is actually a small book, takes up to 2 hours to read .. but.... very interesting indeed. I recommend everyone read it. When it was written, it was far more "fantastic" than it is today...

Those who listen to Coast, have you been following Dr. Luis Turi's predictions? So far he has not missed. The next big event ... and he says it will be 'big' is due around Nov. 29.

Uni, you like my sign-offs "remember who you really are", well I found this sentence in the Dan Eden booklet which kind of sums it up:

The Aboriginal mind is specialized for Australia.
...part of the "dreamtime," or collective memory.
Just as spiders know how to build their web, birds of a particular species can build a uniquely shaped nest or return to the same migration sites as their ancestors, the Aboriginal people have incorporated certain memories in their genes.
These memories are not "learned," in our way of understanding the word. They are triggered by certain rituals or images and then become part of their consciousness, just as if they were learned through direct experience.


Unfortunately our 'modern' society has either forgotten the rituals that could trigger our memories .. or -- far more likely -- they have been deliberately suppressed.

NS

Remember who you really are .. you just have to remember...

11/19/2005 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
>Blasted foold ya all !!

lol.. moi?

ya big dummy.

See DW!! Sometimes ya DO get a response... rofl..

11/19/2005 07:42:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Hi guys/gals...

Another clear sky today, ssl4000g...

I'm just making an observation here, not a political comment, but it seems to me that we've gone from talking about ruins on Mars and weather control to Bush bashing...

John

11/19/2005 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nightstar, thanks.
so glad you took the time, it's worth it for sure.
That entire site has some really excellent, pertinent information. Too bad Dan has been 'silenced' so to speak.
I haven't seen anything 'new' there in quite awhile. Hope he is safe.

I read it several years ago, originally.
and still looking for 'kahlua' buttons..



peace.

11/19/2005 07:53:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

talking about ruins on Mars and weather control to Bush bashing...

I take it you are American and cannot comprehend America's NOT being the only greatest most best-est snuggly good sweet sugar confectionary glaze.

11/19/2005 08:15:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

sunking,
I emailed you my addy's. They have ssl4000g and TEM in the subject line. If you need to, email me back to confirm. Thanks.


My $0.02 on money, it is the ultimate addiction. Never enough, and you always want more.


nightstar said;
" Just read the Dan Eden Tells All story from http://www.viewzone.com/vz.message.html
which was posted by blasted, above.
It is actually a small book, takes up to 2 hours to read .. but.... very interesting indeed. I recommend everyone read it. When it was written, it was far more "fantastic" than it is today..."

I thought the same thing. I was surprised to find it as a "written" story, I felt as if I was reading a fictional story. I have to finish that tonight.

nightstar again;
"Remember who you really are .. you just have to remember..."

That is a difficult task that I have yet to accomplish. A whole new level of learning as you would never have been taught something such as this. Thanks NS.

john said;
Another clear sky today, ssl4000g...

I'm just making an observation here, not a political comment, but it seems to me that we've gone from talking about ruins on Mars and weather control to Bush bashing...

John

11/19/2005 07:52:29 AM

Clear and chilly here too john. As for the Bush bashing, I think that is a by-product of all the conversations here. Keep in mind the big picture of where we are all coming from and what we are going.

blasted said;
nightstar, thanks.
so glad you took the time, it's worth it for sure.
That entire site has some really excellent, pertinent information. Too bad Dan has been 'silenced' so to speak.
I haven't seen anything 'new' there in quite awhile. Hope he is safe.

I read it several years ago, originally.
and still looking for 'kahlua' buttons..



peace.

11/19/2005 07:53:06 AM

I didn't know that he was "silenced". I find it amazing, that a writer will be "turned off" from any new publications because he/she is considered a threat. But the original info that caused said silencing is left out there for all to find and read. Does that make sense?


Wayne

11/19/2005 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wayne,
it would appear to me that some the really true things that border on being the fictional, get to remain? So easy to lump in to all the other 'stuff'. The hiding in plain site effect..

Then again, why is somebody like Beardon (among others)left alone so to speak? or ARE they?

And why is RCH SOOOooo.. invisible??

gawd, if we only really knew these answers, would take all the pizzazz out of the sleuthing wouldnt it.. >:D

11/19/2005 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey nightstar,

It is my belief that all consciousness is essentially 'programmed' in da genes..
awaiting that pulse, that spark, that galactic superwave, that HD event, to trigger the ascension/awareness/enlightenment r.evolution!!

lookie here!

this vid is hypnotic, moving, with da shivvers of the best kind.

(click 'preview' in left pane)

http://www.originsproject.com/index.html

remember
what you have forgotton
evidence exists
in your cells
in the earth
in the ancient records
in the stars
failing to remember
affects your life
put the pieces together
reclaim the lost lineages
of the human race



peace

11/19/2005 08:52:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

blasted said;
" wayne,
it would appear to me that some the really true things that border on being the fictional, get to remain? So easy to lump in to all the other 'stuff'. The hiding in plain site effect..

Then again, why is somebody like Beardon (among others)left alone so to speak? or ARE they?

And why is RCH SOOOooo.. invisible??

gawd, if we only really knew these answers, would take all the pizzazz out of the sleuthing wouldnt it.. >:D

11/19/2005 08:41:42 AM "

Absolutely it would.


Wayne

11/19/2005 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Something been bothering me for a long time, and I've got to ask;

Anyone?

WHAT happened to all the people? Where are they?
Artifacts, by the millions found all over the globe. Entire cities just loaded with clues.
Yet, very little, or so it seems, is found, disclosed, discussed about the people, the physical remains, DA bones.

Ya, sure some, but you would think any city, big enough to support hundreds of thousands or more, unearthed with countless artifacts intact, would contain a huge amount of human remains. Maybe I just don't see it, or it's deemed not interesting enough? Seems all you ever hear is they 'fled' in advance of.. (insert some disaster, invader etc..)..

I just find that incredibly anomalous, yet little ever said...

WHAT happened to all the people?


peace

11/19/2005 09:12:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

11/19/2005 10:49:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

blasted,
That question I guess has always been in the back of my mind but never thought to ask it. Maybe it was suppressed?
I guess that all the Roman's evaporated, where are their cemetaries? Where are all the Sumerians? Where are all the Indus Valley People? Where are all the Mayans? Where are all the Olmecs? I realize the Earth is big, but didn't anybody bury their dead near their city? Awesome question blasted! we should try and look into this.

Wayne

11/19/2005 11:16:00 AM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

Well HELLO!!!

Hero

www.dictionary.com

He�ro2 Audio pronunciation of "hero" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hr, h�r) or He�ron (hrn), First century A.D.

Alexandrian scientist who invented many water-driven and steam-driven machines and devised a formula for determining the area of a triangle.


Did anyone spot something there?

Sitting here stunned and stoned... and errrm a cunning grin...

and mi word ting... lqudsukd

11/19/2005 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>SSL4000G said...
blasted,
That question I guess has always been in the back of my mind but never thought to ask it. Maybe it was suppressed?

America is a very young country, where history is concerned.

In South East Asia, mighty empires once dominated; China, India, Langkasuka(Thailand/Siam), Cambodia, Majapahit(Indonesian archipelago), France, Britain, Spain, Portugal, Holland, etc, etc, etc.

The empires are gone; people came and went; what remains is the people who are here now.

11/19/2005 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>blasted said;
" wayne,
it would appear to me that some the really true things that border on being the fictional, get to remain? So easy to lump in to all the other 'stuff'. The hiding in plain site effect..

>Then again, why is somebody like Beardon (among others)left alone so to speak? or ARE they?


B, i dont think the attempts on Col Bearden's life should be discounted.

Likewise, Dr. Eugene Mallove.

11/19/2005 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger DarkWood said...

To all,

I thank you for the uplifting responses. I still don't know where the bulk of my rant last night came from. I s'pose I was channelling 'somebody' or 'something' but, despite my conviction that I really am 'awake, in a lot of ways I'm still just as out of it as most. For the aspects of my ravings that seemed to be nothing more than an appeal to ego, I sincerely apologize. Just goes to show I'm still human, right? :-) I like to think that I'm above the pettiness of ego gratification, and yet I still succumb to the pitfall of desire for acknowledgement. I know I don't NEED that, but dammit I do sometimes want it and if that aspect of my writing has unfortunately derailed the important stuff I was channeling, please forgive.

To close, I would just like to offer a few links to some materials that have been fundamental over the years to my own awakening process. If I can serve some part in the Greater Awakening, that truly is enough whether I'm credited for my role or not, really.

So here are some of MY cosmic triggers that have helped to shape who and what I am today and I hope they serve to benefit some of you as well:

For any who are wondering just what all this Discordianism nonsense is about, check out The Principia Discordia. In a lot of ways, it's as profound as it is plain silly.

Along those lines of profound silliness, I simply cannot recommend enough anything written by good 'ol Robert Anton Wilson. There's TONS of other good stuff on this site, as well.

A good place to start in counterculture philosophy is The Deoxyribonucleic Hyperdimension. This site is rather bulky and not the easiest to navigate, I'll warn you up front.

And last, but certainly not least, Poker Without Cards. It's a fairly recent book that dares to expose the Dark Magickians of Wall Street and demonstrate how mass advertising is no less than all out psychic and magickal attack on the minds of the masses.

So there you go. Come and join me in my somewhat deranged worldview. ;-)

DarkWood

11/19/2005 12:20:00 PM  
Blogger DarkWood said...

blasted,

As to the disappearances of various groups in the past, I wonder if it's just various pockets of humanity that have 'gotten it' and achieved Ascension. Humanity as a whole isn't quite there, yet, but that isn't to say smaller groups cannot achieve the unimaginable. And I would also propose this isn't isolated to 'ancient' groups, either. Original colony or Roanoake, Virginia, anyone?

Just my two pennies,

DarkWood

11/19/2005 12:27:00 PM  
Blogger DarkWood said...

And interesting news item from SlashDot is just too damn funny.

DarkWood

11/19/2005 12:32:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

lately some mention of tin foil hats;
a while back someone (eric?) provided this, which is for real protective foil garments:
http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
uni

11/19/2005 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

DarkWood, loved ya inspired input, in fact your input, inspired me to do some deeper research...

Started with research on wit, then from there just understanding tings here...

Twistin 1 up... it's gorgeous still sunny, Da Atlantic side is glassy with 12 foot rollers breaking on the outer reefs... Good tube sets for any surfers...

Darkwood, that kind of inspiration that comes to you, keep it up, you got your gold 5 pointed star and ya stripes, bro your words were like music to mi sou... I'm rabling too aren't...

keep it up... Truly good good meditations...

11/19/2005 01:12:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

yes Uni, Money IS NEUTRAL...

Meaning money, could simply be (I restate for the record) that if I grew the best Cannabis Sativa and IonTru02, was partial to my particular blend, him being a person of horses, could exchange two of his finest steeds for 300lbs of my medicinal spiritual incense...

now that is using REAL RICHES, the real trade of beneficial REAL things, NOT paper used to represent a WALL STREET GREED power loving empire of LIES...

The LOVE of Money, not money itself, is the ROOT of all evil...

The LOVE OF POWER...

The bible puts it nicely, to have a siezure, to want to be able to be equal to GOD...

That can do damaging things to a mind...

Too LOVE THE GOD of love, above all else, that is real LOVE...

To store up your characteristics, your wisdom your humour your wit your knowledge, courage, patience these are real treasures...

Qualities of soul and character, Money cannot buy these things, you accumilate and learn them storing them into your soul as you love give and learn, all based on the faith you are surving the higher purpose, to protect and preserve peace!...

Darkwood you inspired me...

11/19/2005 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Crypto, hi
you said: Darkwood, I'm a big fan of chaos !!! Measuring replies alone, my posts are ignored too, but don't let the bastards get ya down - the cumulative effect is not lost, no matter how much small talk occurs between. It's like an additive to a fuel tank ; most like to let it spill and splash around, see if it helps the gas mileage and mental efficiency. As Jefferson would say, "people are convinced by reflection, not confrontation". How about a Guest Blog ?

iontruo2--My comment is to Blasted as well here. I don't think "ignored" is quite the right term. I too have posted some serious links that litterally had the key patents or articles like Bearden's big one that pretty much spelled it out clear as day. And there was not much so called "responce". There have been recent pictures, some of you have found and posted, like the three distinct and obviously square openings together at the base of "Olympus" Mars, that should have lauched serious interest and discussions, and I saw little or nothing regarding it.
That said many of the posts Crypto or Blasted have made, most certainly have received a number of positive affirmations regarding them from various crew.
Please keep in mind guys that many posts or comments are quite frankly statements and if its not my area of sound knowledge or strength, I will just read it and absorb its content with open regard. What other reply or "external validation" would be needed? As statements or insights, are they really intended to invite debate or argument, or opposition? Definately not, and so when Crypto for example hits me with his mapping and "geo-political" deep stuff, I save it all and restudy it all later, but I have hardly a response other than that. Maybe a WOW! or a Duh?! :) Yet I thoroughly appreciate him sharing his vast knowledge in these areas with us. Maybe its more a good sign that it has left some of us silently dumfounded!! :) Brain blown.

I am at peace with my threads and links that haven't garnered much obvious reponse, as there are untold numbers of observers(lurkers) who may take something from them and run with it on their own outside of this blog enviroment. So the truth of those tidbits we all have posted is concretely expressed and is out there for all. I just saw that someone had found a breifing slide show in the midst of Cheniere's site. A site I had drawn attention to a few weeks back with his link to Bearden and some key correspondence.

So your works are read and received guys, NOT ignored.
I miss none of your posts and save almost all of them, so keep on keep'n on(Brook quote-I think?).

11/19/2005 01:19:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

ion,
how was the hockey game?
:)

mates,
I agree with all iontru02's above post that ended with this;
"So your works are read and received guys, NOT ignored.
I miss none of your posts and save almost all of them, so keep on keep'n on(Brook quote-I think?)."
uni

11/19/2005 01:25:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

Whoop,
re the hypothetical commerce in horseys and bales of hay;
isn't that the original purpose of carrying money instead of horses in our wallets?
I mean money (neutral) comes in handy for that kinda thing.
uni

11/19/2005 01:29:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

ion, do you have that cheniere slide show link?
thnx
u

anyone else getting slow loading of blog? we are at 210 posts.

11/19/2005 01:31:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

Another Numerological Quaking;


Magnitude 6.5
Date-Time Saturday, November 19, 2005 at 14:10:15 (UTC)
= Coordinated Universal Time
Saturday, November 19, 2005 at 9:10:15 PM
= local time at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location 2.232°N, 96.769°E
Depth 30 km (18.6 miles) set by location program
Region SIMEULUE, INDONESIA
Distances
235 km (145 miles) WNW of Sibolga, Sumatra, Indonesia
255 km (160 miles) SW of Medan, Sumatra, Indonesia
555 km (345 miles) W of KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia
1440 km (900 miles) NW of JAKARTA, Java, Indonesia

11/19/2005 01:33:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

today being 1119

or 3 9

9 10 11

9/11

11/9 - 1119

and 191 (number of UN Seats Members)

hmmMMMmmmMMMmmmMMMmmmMMM...

11/19/2005 01:34:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

Uni, that's the problem with mi modern comerce idea, some beach beach shacks still don't take spliffs for rum, they still work in that old fashioned currency...

Now when they do, I'll bring a big glass to da rum bar :)

hi hi hi...

It really is gorgeous here today, even the palm trees are just gently swaying, can hear the sea fro........

11/19/2005 01:38:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

And that's another thing Uni, we didn't work as fast in the older times, I mean take island time...

It actually runs at 1 day per week... meaning what you set out to do on Monday will probably be finished by the time next Monday comes...


It's just sunny/warm all da time to be worrying bout rushing...

In the UK, on the one or two gorgeous days that we had, when you weren't stuck in traffic on the way to some horrendous job or between cold and flu you notice that the sun is baking the tiles off ya shed...

The one day you go out and enjoy, and have THE BarBeque of the YEAR... the one where the priest is found in the fish pond with the nurse you'd invited from ya college days...

those kind of parties, that happen ounce a Lousy year in the UK, happen virtually every weekend here at a much slower pace, then at Xmas St Kitt's gets wild with Carnival... all the other parties through out the year, have just been about savvying up the lungs and liver for the next one...

IT's fun...

Am ranting, but mi point is, if you ran the best rum shack on the beach, I'd hav a slate wid ya'self, upon which would be divvied up mi drinking duties...

Wherefore, on the fullest moon of everymonth, depending up the charge of mi alcholic beveracal beauties, will be paid a 100lbs of the lords finest herb.

Once paid up, and the pyrotechnical sustanence has begun, we'll talk about mi next drink and payments there of...

You see Uni, that's how it should have worked...

sigh...

11/19/2005 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

Darkwood and crew,
It is not possible to answer or discuss some of the things people post. Some are heavily entrenched in their field of expertise, and it is difficult to post because I have no knowledge there. Sometimes, knowing when to shut up and listen is the best contribution to any discussion. You never know, you might learn something. :)
I visit here everyday, participate and post where appropriate, usually.
Sometimes I am contributing when I should be grokking. :)
Everyone has contributed to my learning and I am grateful for it. I am still learning and will until the day I leave the rock. And it's all good. :)

Wayne

11/19/2005 01:52:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I think we're breaking new ground here and hope we're making a difference. My sense is that we are coalesceing to some degree. We may remain silent which to many means acquiesence. We may bully pulpit on a subject but that can help the group deal with subjects they don't dwell on or we may just be able to see each other "through each others eyes".

11/19/2005 02:05:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

>ericswan said...

unipax said...
eric,
I wish I knew what u r talkin about in yr post at 11/18/2005 07:53:22 PM cuz it sounds interesting, I think.
Unless its a private conversation, in which case, never mind.
uni
We were on the subject of moving mountains with group mind meld and it occured to me that the one thing which interferes from a cohesive melding of the mind is "fear" and the mass media including Marshall McLuhan realizes there are "hot" and "cold" media both of which generate certain visceral responses in the participants. Marshall's last book was never published. I wonder how he would have viewed the internet, except to say that the "Internet" would be a library without a shelf.

I was in the Honour's Journalism program at the University of Western Ontario and took on an assignment about Spiro Agnew. The week after he was impeached I did a word search (line by line,,word by word) for "Spiro Agnew". Not one "word" was mentioned about him.
The conclusion I came to was that "a voice in mass media can be silenced" or mass media can make or break a voice or the mass media uses psy-op techniques..

Every sound bite from George W. Bush had the word "terror..terrorist...terrorism.." in it from 911 til the day of the above post. It was nauseating how he was "making fear" and basically pulling the plug on people cohesion. Nostradamus came to our rescue with the prophecy as I am sure he realized we needed the help. We got it.

Now if that doesn't clear up "King of TERROR" let me know, and I'll get back with MORE.

11/19/2005 12:01:55 AM
<<
Thanks eric, got it. All three of your conclusions about mass media ring true to me.
uni

11/19/2005 02:09:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

...who are you looking at, with this statement..'"We may bully pulpit "'...

11/19/2005 02:13:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

Me THREE Uni...

Now if that doesn't clear up "King of TERROR" let me know, and I'll get back with MORE.

11/19/2005 12:01:55 AM
<<
Thanks eric, got it. All three of your conclusions about mass media ring true to me.
uni"


hi hi hi...

11/19/2005 02:16:00 PM  
Blogger no1here said...

Hi everyone!

I am perplexed (and miffed) .. what's wrong with this situation:

(1) The Republican-controlled Congress helped itself to a $3,100 pay raise on Friday, then postponed work on bills to curb spending on social programs and cut taxes in favor of a two-week vacation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/18/AR2005111802165_pf.html

(2) The U.S. House of Representatives voted on Friday to cut $700 million from the food stamp program, despite objections from antihunger groups complaining that estimates show some 235,000 people would lose benefits.

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?id=2005111818110002569401&dt=20051118181100&w=RTR&coview=

This is ass-backwards. Tragic. Perhaps I am too much of a sympathasizer (sp?). I have yet to learn what the job description of a politican is except clouds issues and distort things for his/her best interest.

Getting off political soap box before I get flamed into a crispy criter.

Good vibes to ya all!

~Greg

Surprising word verification: owwnedx

11/19/2005 02:22:00 PM  
Blogger no1here said...

Heh,

I got post 220 at 02:22:20 PM

:)

~Greg

Another surprising word ver: souulw ... this is getting creepy.

11/19/2005 02:24:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Hi everyone,

Here's an article that you all may find an interesting read.

http://www.keelynet.com/greb/greb.htm

The Natural Phenomena of AntiGravitation and Invisibility in Insects
due to the Grebennikov Cavity Structure Effect (CSE)

by Iu. N. Cherednichenko, Senior Researcher, Biophysics Laboratory, Institute of Human Pathology and Ecology, Russian Academy of Medical Science

11/19/2005 02:25:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Unipax, Hi there!

As you requested, here is the link to that breifing. Its a PDF file downloadable, worth it!

http://www.cheniere.org/briefings/porthole/index.htm

Cudo's to ericswan for the first posting of it!!

P.S. The hockey game was great, Senators won also, which is nice when one is there live. I was hosting a friend from India, here now only eight months. A first for him, and he loved it.

11/19/2005 02:33:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Correction Unipax!!

Here is the direct link to the download.

http://www.ifisoft.ch/test/pdf/bearden/FinalBriefing.pdf

for acrobat

11/19/2005 02:35:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Biological_Unit said...
talking about ruins on Mars and weather control to Bush bashing...

I take it you are American and cannot comprehend America's NOT being the only greatest most best-est snuggly good sweet sugar confectionary glaze.


First off, yes, I'm American. Now, before I say anything else, I've got a question (and this is for everyone). I know I promised not to put political comments on here again, and I'm beginning to regret that. I'd like to ask if you guys/gals will let me take that promise back. Now, obviously, I'm keeping my promises not to do personal or yawning comments. But I do miss putting political comments on here. I'm leaving the decision up to you; if you want me to keep on not saying political comments, then that's what I'll do. I made the promise maybe a little to hastily after seeing what happened to the crew the last time I put up a political comment(we almost got off course, but mrs. doubtfire stopped us at the last minute). Now that we're off-ship, I was wondering if you'd let me post them again. I still continue to promise not to put personal or yawning comments up here, but I really would like to be allowed to put political comments up here again...

Ssl4000g, I got chemtrails, how about you?

John

11/19/2005 03:12:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

A good potential tool for those interested in a group mind meld effort or the capability to project focused intent into the surrounding situation of so-called reality matrix of conditional existence is this link I have mentioned previously.
It played a role I understand in some of the issues concerning the recent hurricanes and the efforts to diffuse them.

It is called Sitter/Miracle 6 software and I think it might be a good fast track for some of you if you haven't got much time in advancing spiritual practice. Better yet, just a cool, all in one package for us to make a difference.

Have a look, I know its not free or cheap but it was compelling and the promoter of it has received some very high credits from the government of the United States.

http://www.ushesanctuary.com/id9.html

and in that: http://www.ushesanctuary.com/id10.html
good screen shots

This software may prove useful for some of us who want to really delve into pro-active focused frequency delivery and guided imagery as a group effort.

11/19/2005 03:16:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

ms.t, hi

nice input, thank you
everyone needs a little encouragement, and reflective feedback. You just helped to re-enforce my point, that many observe and take notes and learn, yet are not immediately compelled to jump in with comments.

Also , wanted to convey my appreciation of your fine femininely presence. Having ranted before about the yang extremes here, thanks for being with us all and bringing your yin to the balance.

good word verification- q a hint

11/19/2005 03:25:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Feeling like this a day of passing on links for me. Hope you all find some of them useful?

here's one that I think will tickle our 3ster myster jasgrave333.

http://www.smphillips.8m.com/article25.pdf
The 33 Vertex Sheets of the '120 Polyhedron' Signify the 33 Tree Levels of Ten Overlapping Trees of Life

Many excellent articles here at the main index:
http://www.smphillips.8m.com/html/articles.html


And this guy, Tony Smith whose book was banned by Cornell.
http://www.tony5m17h.net/

Here's the 340 page book for free.
http://www.tony5m17h.net/BANNEDbyCORNELL.pdf

Just some stuff above that speaks to a number of the crew I know are good with physics concepts and some like jasgrave333 who love the math and plays of number significance, such as 3's.

11/19/2005 03:35:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

John,
I have a few trails, but the sky is full of older trails that look like they blew in from somewhere else. Lots of angel hair and those clouds that start with a V. Damned if I can remember that word. Anybody?

Wayne

11/19/2005 03:46:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

Thanks for the links iontru02 and everyone else. Makes for good reading this weekend.

Wayne

11/19/2005 03:47:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

ssl4000g,

Your very welcome!

11/19/2005 04:20:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Hi everyone,

Here is one more that gets a star for presentation. They have compiled from "other" sources in some cases(without credit) yet their effort is admirable.

http://neu-ark.net/

The Neu-Ark is a multi-dimensional bi-directional unified-field Network Anatomy Viewer (NAV) for Interdimensional Geodesic Ark Technology Enterprising (I-GATE)... The Neu-Ark is custom designed to accommodate strategic communication of ultra-compressed, ultra-concentrated global and universal liberation/solution media thru LIVE network topologies in the form of light packets transmitting a PURE sound-color-code activation formula via a PYRAMID PROCESS in an organic/technologic/silicon base =
I N T E L L I G E N C E . S Y N T H E S I S

Some of you may already have this site, but it popped up for me again today and I felt moved to share it with perhaps some of our Neu-Crew. :)

Happy reading this weekend!!
P E A C E

11/19/2005 04:33:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

Read read read... have got a reading lamp next to mi pc here, this is gonna mek me hav 2 wear specs mi kno it... grrrr

and mi dog loyally at mi not as yet slippered feet...

Read read read, my life already...

11/19/2005 04:46:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

MAG DATE UTC-TIME LAT LON DEPTH region
y/m/d h:m:s deg deg km

map ? 2005/11/19 20:59:46 33.000 -80.200 5.0 SOUTH CAROLINA


hah, this made me smile...

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html

11/19/2005 04:50:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

whoop WHOOP, afternoon, 2 ya too...

is a perfect perfect eve here this eve...

not a whisper of a breeze and clear sunset blue's and oranges...

tis a perfect evening...

evenin all :D

11/19/2005 04:52:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

ms t. that's what dey keep telling me... oiyvaey or something like that...

"SOLAR ACTIVITY: Sunspot 822 poses a continuing threat for M-class solar flares. Because the 'spot is crossing the middle of the sun, any eruptions this weekend would be Earth-directed and could spark geomagnetic storms on our planet. Stay tuned for updates. "


It's in italics now (stay tuned), meaning attention people, we mean it...


www.spaceweather.com

11/19/2005 04:55:00 PM  

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