11.11.2005

For The Record

The following is the text of a letter I faxed to Richard yesterday:

Dear Richard,
Not knowing your status and in consideration of the fact that the size of the Comments Section of your last blog at the Captain’s Blog has made discourse amongst members of your loyal crew bandwithally burdensome, I have taken the bold move of brazenly filching your blog layout, complete with logos and links, and creating a new blog under my blogspot account called "Captain’s Blog – Drydock". At the top of the blog page, I have placed a disclaimer noting that this blog is not approved by you or officially recognized by The Enterprise Mission. I have placed messages in the Comments Section and in other areas frequented by the Crewe to notify them that I was doing so and many have come over to this new blog.

Note that this was only done to make things easier for posting and to allow many who have only dial-up access to be able to participate, hoping to increase said participation and keep interest in your blog and Enterprise Mission alive. I fully expect that upon your return, ‘shore leave’ will be cancelled and all hands will report to their official duty stations and ‘The Enterprise" will put out from Drydock.

I pray this meets with your approval or, at the least, does not meet with your disapproval.
I have done this only with honorable intentions and with the best interests of The Enterprise Mission and the Crewe in mind.

We eagerly await your return.

Respectfully,
Sunking

282 Comments:

Blogger coqui said...

Sunking,
Great letter, great job.
Thanks
uni

11/11/2005 03:50:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

Great job on all fronts Sunking.

All hail the SunKing

11/11/2005 03:58:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

hail

11/11/2005 04:03:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

If I may be so bold:
To those making the jump over here- alot was discussed today on first blog-a quick read through might be helpful if you feel lost...

11/11/2005 04:06:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

unipax said;
I don't think the world would fold up and come to a screeching halt.
That reminds me of the gist of The Brookings Report, which advised against disclosure at the inception of NASA. I think The Brookings Report was just another part of the scam, a rationale for continued secrecy.
Why would it be necessary for the world to fold up? I think that's just a scare tactic.

Perhaps the answer is in our perceptions of what disclosure would bring.
uni

11/11/2005 02:16:13 PM

Maybe, I too am the victim of previously watched or imagined scenarios. It is sometimes hard to see around (overcome) those roadblocks that were set up for you. That's another reason I am grateful for the discussions without ridicule here. Your last sentence sums me up just right. Now, where did I get those damn perceptions from?

scarletm said;
..While its fine to discuss it, pros and cons etc...of "disclosure" the actual forceful attack of the media would prove to be a huge mistake and possibly throw everything back to the stone age.
Or worse, be put on IGNORE....

That is why I thought that this was something, if undertaken, needed to be well thought through first.

Carried this from the other blog casue I thought they were important.

Wayne

11/11/2005 04:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes Sunking,
I second that. However, each day that goes by like this makes me more convinced that my previously expressed theories on the reason for this silence may be accurate and with each day the silence becomes more deafening - especially after you have faxed your letter. Does anybody know acquaintances of RCH that might be able to contact him so that we may find out indirectly what is going on ? I have gotten the impression that George Noory is fairly close and have even suspected that he might be reading these blogs. Should he be contacted ? If nobody objects, I will volunteer to send an e-mail.

11/11/2005 04:09:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

Nice on the fax sunking. :)

Wayne

11/11/2005 04:10:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

I posted this on the last blog. Did you all know that RCH is on the BoD for American Antigravity? I didn't, and maybe he is busy there? I guess too, that's why there is an American Antigravity poll on the TEM front page.

11/11/2005 04:12:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

>thunderbolt 2012 said...
Yes Sunking,
I second that. However, each day that goes by like this makes me more convinced that my previously expressed theories on the reason for this silence may be accurate <
<
Thunderbolt, was that the theory that RCH got 'spoken to' about revealing the hurricane wars?
That one sounds plausible, and if true would pretty much confirm the weather manipulation, not that some of us were doubting it.
uni

11/11/2005 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK guys,
Here is the text of the letter I sent to George Noory. We shall see what happens.


"George,
I suspect that you are fairly close to Richard Hoagland and I am contacting you as sort of a last resort because he has TOTALLY dropped of the radar screen of his Enterprisemission.com blogsite . This has been going on for several weeks until his last "Captain's Blog " has gotten to the point that it was nearly impossible for people to post there anymore. One of the posters picked up the ball and produced a temporary site at:
http://enterprisemissiondrydock.blogspot.com/
just for the purpose of maintaining continuity of the Enterprise mission "crew". If you are in contact with him, please ask him to check in there and let us know his intentions as to the future of the blogsite. The poster who created the "drydock" site has sent Richard a FAX informing him of what he did and why. His handle is "SUNKING" on the site. If Richard is ill or if you have any other information you can pass on that would explain the situation to us , we would greatly appreciate any light you can throw on the subject.
best regards,
"THUNDERBOLT2012""

11/11/2005 04:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks again, gang.

Give it a go, TB2012!

But then, maybe THIS WAS part of an experiment...to see if we would take the intiative...or just waddle in the mud?

re: Brookings,

I think the problems related to disclosure are different today, to SOME degree, from what they were in the 50s. I just think the problems would be different. Perhaps even as equally detrimental to the lives of humanity?

Mostly, the way I see thing...it will take a real earth-shattering event, like a pole shift or something really on-my-Gawd, to wake up humanity, get rid of some portion of humanity, and move forward (or backward) to a different plane.

But then, I ain't that smart.

11/11/2005 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHACK!
Thank you sir, may I have another ?
WHACK!
Thank you sir, may I have another ?
WHACK!
Thank you sir, may I have another ?
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from: waynemadsenreport.com

November 11, 2005 -- New aspect of Valerie Plame/Brewster Jennings exposure revealed. According to U.S. intelligence sources, the White House exposure of Valerie Plame and her Brewster Jennings & Associates was intended to retaliate against the CIA's work in limiting the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. WMR has reported in the past on this aspect of the scandal. In addition to identifying the involvement of individuals in the White House who were close to key players in nuclear proliferation, the CIA Counter-Proliferation Division prevented the shipment of binary VX nerve gas from Turkey into Iraq in November 2002. The Brewster Jennings network in Turkey was able to intercept this shipment which was intended to be hidden in Iraq and later used as evidence that Saddam Hussein was in possession of weapons of mass destruction. U.S. intelligence sources revealed that this was a major reason the Bush White House targeted Plame and her network.

Brewster Jennings

CIA counter-proliferation network prevented a WMD "salting" operation by Bush White House in Iraq.

In fact, U.S. intelligence sources report that the first shipment of VX nerve gas to Saddam Hussein was carried out between 1988 and 1989. The gas was shipped to Iraq by a U.S. company that was established in 1987 -- The Carlyle Group.

U.S. intelligence sources have also confirmed that Israeli military officers served unofficially with the U.S. Central Command headquarters in Baghdad. The Israelis were attached to the J2X (Joint Intelligence Liaison) in Baghdad. Their presence in Baghdad, according to the sources, was kept secret.

11/11/2005 05:21:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

You have to wonder why Fitzgerald didn't prosecute on the espionage charges instead of lying to a grand jury.

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=109666

11/11/2005 05:33:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I would take a polar shift to what we have done to ourselves (this time)

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/redskies.html

11/11/2005 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Is it possible that the clock is now reading posts to the second?

Jas..you will have to work very hard to hit the 3:33:33 at post 333. nah.

11/11/2005 05:44:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

john,
Been watching the clouds as often as possible. And I do not think any were natural. There may have been some, but most of the ones I saw had some sort of straight edge or a square shape of some sort. But, there were no chemtrails today at all. The sunset on the way home ws cool if not colored oddly. The sky wnet from dark blue (almost indigo) to a greenish solor at the horizon. I always thought it would be more reddish at the horizon. But the bottoms of any clouds present were orange. ????

Thunderbolt,
Nice on the Noory contact. Also, the "salting" article was pretty interesting, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised they tried it.

sunking said;
Mostly, the way I see thing...it will take a real earth-shattering event, like a pole shift or something really on-my-Gawd, to wake up humanity, get rid of some portion of humanity, and move forward (or backward) to a different plane.

But then, I ain't that smart.

11/11/2005 05:02:59 PM

That would certainly stop send the alarm bells a ringing. Would we hear them when they did ring?

11/11/2005 05:49:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

From this months Discover Magazine

Can Gohttp://www.discover.com/issues/oct-05/rd/avian-flu/ld Stop Avian Flu?

is someone tinkering with Manna?

word:quainscm (quaint scum? LOL)

11/11/2005 06:01:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

shoot...
let me try that again.

http://www.discover.com/issues/oct-05/rd/avian-flu/

11/11/2005 06:09:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

here is Brookings, for anyone interested

http://www.enterprisemission.com/brooking.html

11/11/2005 06:33:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Okay, has anybody read this: www.space.com/new/051109_congress_soyuz.html ???
Basically, The Senate approved the House version of the Iran Nonproliferation Act (renew)which allows NASA to buy Russian space hardware or services until 2012. I repeat 2012.
HMMMMMMM

Sword, I am woefully behind on your views of Dec 10, 2005 and 2012. Would you mind retracing a bit for me? Here or Cydonia will be fine. Thanks....
Stef

mfslu = dyslexic muffles?
oops, try again
psfbgzed = ps feeb gazed

11/11/2005 06:40:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

11/11/2005 07:04:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

>SunKing said...

re: Brookings,
.....I think the problems related to disclosure are different today, to SOME degree, from what they were in the 50s. I just think the problems would be different. Perhaps even as equally detrimental to the lives of humanity?

Mostly, the way I see thing...it will take a real earth-shattering event, like a pole shift or something really on-my-Gawd, to wake up humanity, get rid of some portion of humanity, and move forward (or backward) to a different plane.

<

When we say disclosure, are we talkin about ET or 'Free Energy', or both?

In the 50's Brookings said that encountering ET could negatively impact Fundamentalists, Scientist and Engineers. Brookings also cited Anthropologists reporting on how some earth societies disintegrated after contact with other earth societies.
Sure, maybe to some extent. But I think people would adapt, cuz that is what people do, ESPECIALLY if we had competent leadership guiding us through. I still think Brookings is just part of the con. Plausible deniability of sorts put in place at the beginning of NASA. Its always been about the propulsion, much more than about fundamentalists and scientists getting a clue.

Question: Can we have disclosure of advanced technology without disclosure of ET? Are the two inseparable?
For the discussion, I'm looking at disclosure of technology only.
Is there anything about the tech that is threatening in the way ET is said to be threatening?
I think the tech threatens only the oily old power structure, and does not threaten science and religion and society.
I still think we need consensus re our perception of what (technology) disclosure means to us, and a spin-free picture of how it will change our world. Problems? What would the problems be with disclosure of technology? CHANGES, for sure ! How would it be detrimental?
Maybe short term detrimental---how? Who wants disclosure?
uni

11/11/2005 07:06:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

tb 2012 and ericswan,
thanks for those stories and links
uni

11/11/2005 07:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi all,

Nice new place!

Info...

Recent Iapetus images:

http://ciclops.org/search.php?x=0&y=0&search=iapetus

One of these features is a long narrow ridge that lies almost exactly on the equator of Iapetus, bisects its entire dark hemisphere and reaches 20 kilometers high (12 miles). It extends over 1,300 kilometers (808 miles) from side to side, along its midsection. No other moon in the solar system has such a striking geological feature. In places, the ridge is comprised of mountains. In height, they rival Olympus Mons on Mars, approximately three times the height of Mt. Everest, which is surprising for such a small body as Iapetus. Mars is nearly five times the size of Iapetus.

Other Investigations:

26Al decay as a heating source for Iapetus? How could Iapetus despin to its present 80-day rotation period, synchronous with its orbital period?

=-=-=-=

LAB DSN Antenna Array Testing Underway:

A $76M scaled-down proto-type demo is currently being tested. The current array is 3 x 6m RF antennas.

Proposed Benefits:
- Improve data-rate from low-gain antennas during descent and landing or spacecraft emergencies
- Graceful failure (fault-tolerance)
- Eliminates single points of failure
- Weather diversity
- Expandability
- Reduced operational costs
- Improve radio link science data return: Increased Signal/Noise of radio occultation measurements
- Investigate planetary atmospheres at both higher and lower altitudes

Phases:
- Small scale array demo (3 x 6 m antennas) - NOW
- Complete evaluation of a operational 34-m equivalent downlink (12 12m antennas) - 09/2008
- Phase A: Array-based DSN primary clusters (3 x 200) - 2011
- Phase B: Array-based DSN uplink & downlink (3 x 200) - 2012
- Phase C: Array-based DSN primary & secondary (3 x 400) - 2012

The design is similar to HAARP in using an antenna array combined to improve gain and, in this case, data throughput.

=-=-=-=

TOPEX/Poseidon mission FAILED. A decommissioning plan is being created. Abandoned as unrecoverable. It appears that this is the end of the science mission.

=-=-=-=

StarDust returns in 65 days.

=-=-=-=

Launch of the GOES-N spacecraft is now scheduled for mid-December.

=-=-=-=

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
November 7-11, 2005

o Feature of the Week: Rabe Crater Dunes
http://themis.asu.edu/feature

o Lava Layers (Released 7 November 2005)
http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20051107a

o Lyell Gullies (Released 8 November 2005)
http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20051108a

o Surface Texture (Released 9 November 2005)
http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20051109a

o Holden Crater Dunes (Released 10 November 2005)
http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20051110a

o Dissected Plateau (Released 11 November 2005)
http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20051111a


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html

---
371 Bohemia

11/11/2005 09:02:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Bohemia, another 2012 date? Hmmmmmm.......

11/11/2005 09:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.S. Please forgive if the info regarding Iapetus is already known.

We are currently working on investigating the internal heating of Iapetus. It appears to be caused by the short-lived radio-isotope 26Al ... which is very unusual and perhaps the only known celestial body that utilizes this mechanism. Iapetus is the first case among planetary satellites where other models cannot suffice and heat from CAIs (calcium-aluminum inclusions) is absolutely required. Collaborating and confirming. Hopefully, this is something new!

---
371 Bohemia

11/11/2005 09:18:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

Wow Crypto, don't hold back , tell us how you really feel. LOL :)
I am ashamed to say but I was a huge supporter of both WI and WII. I realy felt that being head of the CIA had advantages...how naieve my 20's were. Then we had Clinton I...disgraceful for a whole different number of reasons-
The Great Hope? It ain't gonna be a president, i can tell you that. At least not one from the US...
Pehaps we need to hope for countries that appear more willing to disclose what they know? China? Russia? Japan?

11/11/2005 09:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hay BAHAMIA,

I was wondering when you were going to show your FRAUDULANT WORK!!

YOU exspectt anyones to believes this!!?

NAH!

Don't worry, in 2012, no one will exist to finish this. Convenient, huh?

So, BAHAMIA, where is Capt. RCH! HUH!

Tell me that... tell me ... DAMN YOU!

Iapetus is a bunch of false hope and lies.

\Move along people, nothing to see here.

HAARP ... whatever...

Now, back to you padded room, BAHAMIA, Your medication is wearing off. Here, let me tighten your jacket a bit more. There now, good bioy. Roll over. FETCH THIS!!

11/11/2005 09:24:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

Hi Jack! :) Glad to see you're back. 8|

Reminds me of that Kenny Loggins song, "Down on Troll Corner"

11/11/2005 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.P.S. at the web site

http://ciclops.org/

There are other Cassini images and some articles.

=-=-=-=

I get the feeling someone wants me censored? Unusual.

Regards!

---
371 Bohemia

11/11/2005 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BAHAMIA,

No one is trying to "censer" you. I just want you to TELL THE TRUTH or DISAPPEAR.

No one here is interested in any more deceit. They are still traumatized by the "captain's" leaving.

HAHAHAHAH

11/11/2005 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

See, i am protecting YOU ... the others here!

Thank my later. i am doing yous this favor now.

11/11/2005 09:36:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

Thanks cryps.
On DVD, one of the Disclosure Project witnesses said...
On his second day in office, President Jimmy Carter summoned the CIA Director, George Bush. Jimmy told the director he wanted to see all the ufo files. George told Jimmy no you may not see that stuff.
There is lotsa good stuff in that Disclosure Project DVD. While taking it in, ya gotta wonder which of the sincere military witnesses were themselves also innocent pawns of disinfo scams.
uni

11/11/2005 09:38:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Disclosure almost always comes well after the fact. The Germans were not aware of Hitlers true intentions until it was too late, and most of us will not know or understand what has been happening these past 6 years until we are much older. Lets not forget the hindsight is 20/20. Now on to the bigger question, How do we facilitate disclosure? The same way it has always been done. Revolution, Anarchy, Chaos. This will happen. The oh-so proper, look-down-their-aristocratic-noses French are seeing that tolerance just doesnt work. Look at the looting and OMG NOT A POLICE BEATING A CIVILIAN?!?! Masses are starting to revolt, whether it is for our reasons or not, changes are coming. There are a growing number of US citizens that are coming to see the curtain that truth hides behind. Not all of it is our doing, but we should count it the same. Feet are being put down with authority across our nation, whether it is to allow Intelligent Design or God to remain in the Pledge of Allegiance, THE PEOPLE ARE WAKING FROM THE FOG OF OPPRESSION and the sight is beautiful. Fear of being impolite is or Politically Incorrect is being replaced by indignation. I figure that when the masses learn of the space advances of other 'lesser' nations, the last of the baby boomers will get off their comfy duffs and cry 'FOUL'. I can feel the change in the air and it ain't just the chemtrails (of which there were none in NE OH today). Revolt is coming, have a safe haven picked if you are unable to withstand the chaos.
You may all believe this or not, but we are closer than you think. What can we DO? Keep on keeping on my friends...make a few contingency plans and exit strategies and be sure to hold on to the truth....we are close, wery, wery close.

(wow did I say all that? must have been my little friend!)

11/11/2005 09:39:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

Bohemia-
arent you disturbed about the fact you have someone stalking you?
I am!
Be safe bohemia! I for one like your updates, you provide a service here...

11/11/2005 09:46:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Okay, sorry about the above post, my alter ego kicked in. I usually dont allow myself to be so blunt. Can I stay?

11/11/2005 09:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BAH,

Don't worry about BAHAMIA. Through counter-intelligence it should be possible to pinpoint potential trouble-makers...And "neutralize" them!

I am certain he will be gone soon...

11/11/2005 09:54:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

krazy,
I thought it was great!
please stay;-)
uni

11/11/2005 09:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone else notice that the previous Dry-Dock blog has exactley 333 comments?

Sword

11/11/2005 09:59:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Bohemia, this is the first I have heard of the DSN arrays. Are these being developed outside of military use? From your description, I can imagine a few unsavory uses for this technology. Who has control of the project currently? Also, it just reeks of the govts plan to further their plans for weather control/counter measures.

11/11/2005 10:02:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

333 comments. Of course! I didnt even go in and read the ones I missed so I wouldnt feel the need to comment and mess it all up.

Here is another number...one of the security codes on my credit cards is 711. Does this mean slushies are in my future? lol Actually 711 is the time I wake up every morning whether the alarm goes off or not. Hmmmmm

11/11/2005 10:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Friday, November 11, 2005
HHMSS
Sword

Dry-Dock?
I really wonder how this Captain will take a creation of another “Vessel”? I know somebody is at the helm do to the fact that the actual TEM web-site itself is getting updated and changed. One would think that the steward at the helm would create an “open” blog. Oh well, at least one man had the co-hoe-nehys… …


Sword saud previously:
BTW - What is the "Tyler"

Greg said:
The "Tyler" is the outer guard. All (Free)Mason Lodges, when at work, must be tyled, that is, the door is guarded so that non-Masons may not enter or overhear the proceedings. The Tyler is situated outside the door of the Lodge "being armed with a drawn sword to keep off all intruders and cowans to Masonry".

crypt0 said...
A tyler is the son of a mason.

Sword replies with a smile:
Both of you are correct (terminology has changed in some lodges). But before you pass, what is your favorite color?


Jasgrave said:
Sword ya name is clever, in Revelation, it speaks of Lord of Lord and King of Kings, and also a fella riding around with a long sharp two edged sword protruding out of his mouth...

Sword says:
For the Words of the Lord are also the Sword of the Lord.

Jasgrave said:
Andrenalin 117, bro it's mutual (bout the learnings), I've learned more here about Masons, then I'd ever imagine. Thank you for the detail on 'Tylers', enjoyed that and your side to that Crypt0... WOW

Sword is that what you are refering to when you say that the Cap'N, turned up anounced etc?

Sword:
No.
I did not have “Tylers” – AKA Keepers of the words… …At the time of that “Need to know” incident our unit was a up and coming “specialized” military unit. We where not at that time a “Free & Accepted” unit/lodge. We had a (low-pay) reservation secretary for outsiders as we where very popular “school” at that time. I only allowed 30 bodies in class at any given time, and Rich made 31, and stuck out like a sore thumb with suit and tie among everyone else in BDU uniform.


Wayne said:
If we had complete disclosure, the world would most likely fold up and everything would come to a screeching halt. I don't think we would want that.

Sword:
Halt? C’Mon, a halt is a “stop”, how about a complete 180 degree turn in the moral and ethical fabric of our worldwide society? Society wont sit idle – they will just change there ethical and moral direction. The discussion of disclosure I would like focused on the ramifications of that said “complete disclosure”.
Nature would take over from nurture as it would very quickly become every man woman and child for themselves. Let us always remember the Mob mentality and how quickly a crowd can be persuaded one way or another … … “Romans, lend me your ears… …”

Wayne said:
If we had sword's disclosure, asteroid gonna hit us, I think same problem. Except, that the sheeple would be putting a last ditch belief in the system to save them.

Sword:
It’s asteroids (plural). Let us consider two movies that illustrate this point of social collapse: “Deep Impact” & “Armageddon”. I would like to say that neither movie really touches on the decadent society that would run rampant during this time, however… One can remember the scenes of desperation, as the “chosen” are shepherd into their underground bunkers. Anyone else remember that scene? I call that scene “apocalypse light” – looks great, not very fulfilling.
One can imagine the REAL scene that would play out and the REAL horrors of the inner cities (lawlessness at a biblical scale – as already spoken of a long, long time ago…)

Wayne said:
I do believe sword when he says that they are working on something to deal with it, I still think the same pandemonium sill occur. This scenario would make all other disclosure moot. As we would have such devastation that there really would be no way it would matter.

Sword:
And well, you’re right on both points. Hence the recent articles (three? Four? Five?) regarding asteroids, there impending collisions, and what NASA would do about them. I must state however that this is older stuff that they thought up much more previously. Releasing it now as “new info” only makes me chuckle. Its like adding a little extra pepper to soup your cooking up.
Seeing is believing – its truly going to be the real disclosure. When you cab see your fate barreling down at you and all you can do is wait…? Pandemonium? A truer word perhaps would be: apocalypse. Biblical foretold, apocalypse.

Wayne said:
If the above scenario doesn't occur, we could pick. through concensus, the topic that would be able to carry momentum and succes in breaking through into the media and therefore the world. One that people would really take seriously and make enough noise for some governmental action to take place.

Sword:
Already in place my brother. It’s a matter of timing.


KrazyBy4Kids said...
Sword, I am woefully behind on your views of Dec 10, 2005 and 2012. Would you mind retracing a bit for me? Here or Cydonia will be fine. Thanks....

Sword:
What am I, a magic eight ball? :-)
Retrace what, exactly?
Cydonia? Mars?
Breed-crumbs, and no I didn’t misspell that.

Consider time and the wonderful things sapien adaptability can do. There are a myriad of wonderful and strange things to be explored (not really discovered because WE ALL know what’s there) on Mars. An entire planetary society wiped out in one fell swoop. Now these peoples really knew how to build things to last. With that being said, entire generations will pass before we truly can say that we have discovered all of the mysteries of Mars.
The number one thing I would love to have found on Mars is genetic data. In my mind I want to know if we are related to the “created” race – or – if the creators of the monuments of Mars where the “Master Race” that created us. I would like to think that any genetic data found on mars would be closer to us. Meaning of course, that “they”, the Martians, where of us. Oh! To find at least one body!
On that point, I would love to think that there burial provision and preparations would entail that a corpse would last an extremely long time. Just one mummy would prove SO MUCH!

Sword

11/11/2005 11:14:00 PM  
Blogger Gort said...

Sunking,
Thanks for the dry dock. Does it have a wet bar? :)

Gort reporting for duty.

Happy Veterans Day to all my brother and sister vets out there.

Sgt. Gort, USAF veteran, 1970-74
staying tuned.

11/11/2005 11:27:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Hi guys...

KrazyBy4Kids said...
Okay, has anybody read this: www.space.com/new/051109_congress_soyuz.html ???
Basically, The Senate approved the House version of the Iran Nonproliferation Act (renew)which allows NASA to buy Russian space hardware or services until 2012. I repeat 2012.
HMMMMMMM


I'm not sure, but I thought I was the first one who put that link up...

I've read all the posts that happened while I was gone, and I'm seeing some hesitation. While I don't claim to be an expert in disclosure, I'm gonna try to address some comments made...

To answer the question of the amount of disclosure desired, I say all the way. While I think it'd be a bad idea to tell EVERYTHING at once in one news conference, I think that 3 or 5 things a day could be healthy...

As for having advanced tech disclosed without disclosing ET, I say that you COULD have that, but it'd be tricky. For example, say you reveal a huge (say about the size of Manhattan) spacecraft with no visible means of support holding it up. I think you'd have a hard time convincing ANYONE that "Mr. Grey Spaceman" didn't help out with the design...

As for what could happen to our society, I thought about that in one of my posts on New Enterprise Crewman. Basically, I say that I think we'd come together to explore and learn about these new races, because, imho, we're bored(as a species, because we've met everybody here, and there's not much new stuff to discover if you don't count the briny deep.). I think that we'd be excited to explore the wonderful universe that God created if we knew that we had neighbors...


Thanks for the cloud update, ssl4000g...

John

11/11/2005 11:36:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Okay Sword, properly chastised. (I feel like a teeny bopper again...thanks)

Better question (rephrased): Dec. 10, may I please get the specifics of that date. I am in complete agreeance on the beings that inhabited Mars were/are us, or rather that we were seeded and/or decendants of Mars. I am looking for why that date is so important. Does your reply mean that there will be important disclosure on that date, or that discovery will be made but the true impact will not be felt til much later? At times I can be real dense...as in if it were a snake it would have bit me.

11/11/2005 11:37:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

By the way Sword,
Sword said:
What am I, a magic eight ball? :-)

If the Shoe Fits, Wear It. Some were put in place to teach, some to learn and hopefully everybody has the chance to do both.

11/11/2005 11:42:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

hey krazyby4,
If I were you I'd consult surf commander Jasgrave about Dec 10. It is his thing. It's just a month away now.
Go clik on his name & check his blog pages.
uni

11/11/2005 11:51:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

thanks uni

11/12/2005 12:04:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Oh, to address another comment. I saw "Deep Impact" and "Armageddon", and I have to say that "Deep Impact" is a little more plausible then "Armageddon" (I mean, c'mon, training a bunch of OIL RIG workers to be astronauts in under 18 days? An advanced space shuttle that not only lands on the asteroid with SKIDS, but TAKES OFF again and lands on a RUNWAY, presumably on its skids? Oops, didn't mean to get off topic). In "Deep Impact", they have at least a year to get ready, while in "Armageddon", they have only 18 days. The spaceship crew in "Deep Impact" are actual astronauts that have undergone extensive training, while in "Armageddon", it's a bunch of oil rig workers trained in under 18 days. In "Deep Impact", people were picked randomly (except for the people who discovered the comet, for obvious reasons) to live in the underground shelter, while in "Armageddon", there was no underground shelters. All in all, if I HAD to pick one, I'd pick "Deep Impact", because it's more plausible, but both movies are terribly cliche'd...

John

11/12/2005 12:12:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

I think I got carried away on that last post...

11/12/2005 12:14:00 AM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

I get the date thing now. I dont know why I thought it was sword, oh well. I just love to hear sword ramble. lol

11/12/2005 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Q&A:

1. scarletm said:
> arent you disturbed about the
> fact you have someone stalking
> you?
> I am!
> Be safe bohemia! I for one like
> your updates, you provide a
> service here...

Reply:
Many thanks, scarletm. I am always happy to share our work. As you know, this stuff is not easy and when breakthroughs or progress is made, for it to be a hidden secret, is insane. We, the scientists, researchers, investigators, engineers, and technicians are very proud of our work. We make every effort to keep it open, ture, and honest. Unfortunately, when it leaves our hands and goes to management review, PR review, government review, we often do not recognise our own work.

Risk? Job loss is a definite possibility.

Stalked ... we'll I guess I have a proponent of my work in a demented way. No, I am not worried ... yet.

I do sincerely appreciate your concern.

=-=-=-=

2. KrazyBy4Kids asked...
Are these (DSN arrays) being developed outside of military use?

Answer:
For now, this is a R&D prototype. If we get to actual deployment. These things will be HUGE. Most likely shadowing the Alaskan HAARP array.

A large array (≈4,500) of small (≈12m) antennas, organized into a 1000km diameter spiral of ≈100 close packed stations.

The consortium currently includes:
California Institute of Technology, including the Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Cornell University, including the National Astronomy and Ionosphere Center
Georgia Institute of Technology
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, including Haystack Observatory
National Radio Astronomy Observatory
Ohio State University
SETI Institute
University of California, Berkeley
University of Minnesota

The DSN currently consists of 3 deep-space communications facilities placed approximately 120 degrees apart around the world: at Goldstone, in California's Mojave Desert; near Madrid, Spain; and near Canberra, Australia.

Who has control of the project currently?
CalTech/JPL at present ... with other members of the consortium joining later.

=-=-=

3. anonymous said:
Through counter-intelligence it should be possible to pinpoint potential trouble-makers...And "neutralize" them!

Correction ... change "should be" to "is"...

---
371 Bohemia

11/12/2005 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.S. It goes without saying that NASA is omnipresent is these matters to various degrees of involvement (or interference).

---
371 Bohemia

11/12/2005 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

371 bohemia said ...

"Other Investigations:

26Al decay as a heating source for Iapetus? How could Iapetus despin to its present 80-day rotation period, synchronous with its orbital period?"

-----------------------------------
bohemia, please elaborate on why they thing Al26 is a heating source. Is Iapetus realy perfectly locked in synchronus orbit ?

11/12/2005 12:39:00 AM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Thanks Bohemia. You are doing a great service by sharing this info with everyone. I hope you remain safe.

11/12/2005 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dont you believe IT

11/12/2005 12:50:00 AM  
Blogger coqui said...

Bohemia,
What percentage of NASA staff know that NASA is hiding proof of artifacts elsewhere in our solar system?
Is it like, everyone in the building(s) ?
uni

11/12/2005 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To ThunderBolt2012:

Q:
Please elaborate on why they thing Al26 is a heating source.

A:
The study highlights the need of extra sources of energy not considered in previous thermal evolution models for the Saturnian satellites. Thermal evolution models driven by the decay of long-lived radiogenic species do not produce a temperature high enough for a body such as Iapetus, composed only of 20% silicate by mass and 3.561 10e6 km distant from its primary (Sun), to despin over the age of the Solar System. Different approaches were considered to increase the internal temperature: alteration of the surface properties to limit heat loss (greenhousing, low emissivity, insulating layer), impact heating, and enrichment in long-lived radiogenic species. None of these approaches can account for the despinning, except enrichment in long-lived radiogenic species. However that option cannot produce models that preserve the 17-h geoid. We are trying to demonstrate that short-lived radiogenic species, especially 26Al, as found in the Calcium-Aluminum-Inclusions (CAIs) provide conditions suitable for models that match the observational constraints.

As stated, we are nearly certain this is the mechanism. We are still studying and validating.

=-=-=-=

Is Iapetus realy perfectly locked in synchronus orbit ?

Preliminary RA data indicate it is. Again, we are trying to finalize.

=-=-=-=

ThunderBolt2012,
Please forgive if I cannot provide more specifics. We are still validating the data and putting it through many mathematical models. I do not want to jump ahead and say anything then it is incorrect or misleading. We hope to have something finalized and released internally very soon.

For now, this is our current thoughts and theories.

Best wishes,

---
371 Bohemia

11/12/2005 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unipax asked:

What percentage of NASA staff know that NASA is hiding proof of artifacts elsewhere in our solar system?
Is it like, everyone in the building(s) ?

A:
I guess if you are involved in the front-line research and later see what your publication becomes ... you would know.

The researchers and managers know. The management get their marching orders from NASA. The techies do their job as they were trained and educated. Sadly, some techs do not know or are not aware. PR & media do not know, they attempt to regurgitate what they are fed (and often do a horrible job at it).

Hope this answers your question, unipax.

---
371 Bohemia

11/12/2005 01:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hay BAHAMIA,

YOU SAID:
I do not want to jump ahead and say anything then it is incorrect or misleading.

BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE FU%K YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT !!!

LIES !!!1 ALL LIES11!!

AND ALUMINUM POWERE IAPETUS ... OKAY BAHAMIA, PLEASE ... ENOUGH WITH THE SCIFI STORIES

GO TO SLEEP ...NOW!!!

11/12/2005 01:07:00 AM  
Blogger Gort said...

I just saw this quote in an email:

"The most urgent task at hand
is to build from a hundred cultures,
one culture which does what no
other culture has done before...
Give a place to every human gift."
- Margaret Mead

I thought it was appropriate to the crew of the Enterprise Mission.
After all, we model ourselves loosely and entertainingly on the Starship Enterprise from Star Trek, which had a multicultural crewe. We need to build a "ship's culture" of civility, respect, sharing and caring, peace, groop hugs, kumbyah, (ok, maybe not kumbyah ;( ), and then we will be allowed by the universe to be revealed great wonders, and to truly go where *someone* has gone before.
I don't think we should be trying to spread our culture out into the solar system, until we have a culture that is worthy of such spreading. Otherwise, it's another rock, but the same old(stuff).
Of course another reason the quote from Margaret Meade is appropriateto this crew, is because it was largely her work as an anthropologist that was a major influence on the Brookings report recommending that evidence of ET be kept from the people because it would cause such a great commotion, and etc. She did a lot of studies on what happens to isolated "primitive" cultures when they encounter "more advanced" cultures.
Kinda ironic, huh?
Gort staying tuned.

11/12/2005 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PILE OF SH!T

11/12/2005 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.S. For those out there trying to 'google' the 26Al and Iapetus, you will find some references to an abstract. The remainder of the report is not on the 'net' yet ... or at least it shouldn't be.

We are trying to finalize release it soon.

This study was carried out by J. C. Castillo (JPL), D. L. Matson (JPL), C. Sotin (LPGN France and JPL), T. V. Johnson (JPL), J. I. Lunine (LPL, Tucson, and the University of Rome, Italy), and P. C. Thomas (Cornell Univ.)

---
371 Bohemia

11/12/2005 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAY BAHAMAI

COVER UP
COVER UP
COVER UP

YOU ARE TRYONG TO COVER UP

YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED.

LIAR! CHEAT! FRAD!!

11/12/2005 01:38:00 AM  
Blogger tacodog said...

My 2 cents worth on disclosure:
I think Earth's people need to be told the truth. I don't think there is any(body) who will fit the bill to prepare/spoonfeed people into reality. I agree with Robert: Reality shock - "Highjack the Starship" and land it where everyone can see it. Exposure! Seeing is believing. Then what. Mass panic? People are used to the idea of being lied to. This would just prove one of the biggest lies we've ever been told. Perhaps then the people can take back control and prepare - or at least take the power away from "them". Without the truth being known, we are all powerless. Leaders will rise up among us and we will make it through disclosure. It cannot be any worse then the state the world is in these days. Living in Fear and Fearing the unknown is far more stressful than Living united in Truth and preparing for that which comes.
Rambling here, o my gosh. I think info overload is getting to me.

11/12/2005 02:41:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

krazyby4kids,
Thanks for the chemtrail update. John was clear, E MD, Clear here too, S NJ. Today is starting out the same, clear. stay tuned.

Sword:
Halt? C’Mon, a halt is a “stop”, how about a complete 180 degree turn in the moral and ethical fabric of our worldwide society? Society wont sit idle – they will just change there ethical and moral direction. The discussion of disclosure I would like focused on the ramifications of that said “complete disclosure”.
Nature would take over from nurture as it would very quickly become every man woman and child for themselves. Let us always remember the Mob mentality and how quickly a crowd can be persuaded one way or another … … “Romans, lend me your ears… …”

Ahh, mob mentality. Not looking forward to that.

Sword:
It’s asteroids (plural). Let us consider two movies that illustrate this point of social collapse: “Deep Impact” & “Armageddon”. I would like to say that neither movie really touches on the decadent society that would run rampant during this time, however… One can remember the scenes of desperation, as the “chosen” are shepherd into their underground bunkers. Anyone else remember that scene? I call that scene “apocalypse light” – looks great, not very fulfilling.
One can imagine the REAL scene that would play out and the REAL horrors of the inner cities (lawlessness at a biblical scale – as already spoken of a long, long time ago…)

Oh, more than one. I've always heard of a "great" asteroid such as the one that hit 65M years ago. Sword, IYO what direction will they becoming from (ie;below or above the ecliptic)? I wonder if we could get some assistance from the skypeople already in the solar system?
Sword, are these asteroid already discovered? I am under the impression they are. And if so, are they forecast for the Dec 21, 2012 date or sooner like jas's date of Dec 10, 2005? As an assessment, these are then truly the End Times.

Sword:
Already in place my brother. It’s a matter of timing.

Will that change the outcome of any asteroids hitting or our be able to get them to not hit? I know you've answered that in the positive previously, but what would 6Bil people contribute to the resolution of that? Wouldn't the pandemonium and mob mentality stifle any positive attempts to resolve the crisis? I don't even think Matial Law would help, the numbers are lop-sided, there are way too many citizens. Unless, nukes were used to cull or control problem areas. That last statement was said only as a speculation that I find extremely unnerving. I find it sad, that I am thinking along those lines.

sword once more;
On that point, I would love to think that there burial provision and preparations would entail that a corpse would last an extremely long time. Just one mummy would prove SO MUCH!

Sword

11/11/2005 11:14:23 PM

I agree. And we would finally know the truth of our creation and existence. That would be most gratifiying. I am routinely tired of all the speculation and twisted rhetoric, that only further confuses me, that exists as our reason for being here from whom and shy. Thanks sword.

john said;
I think that we'd be excited to explore the wonderful universe that God created if we knew that we had neighbors...

If there was some indisputable way to know that the ET landing is really an ET landing, that is what bothers me. I think that after all the info overload (ie; the Von Braun fake invasion story) and every other pice of info/disinfo available for consumption really makes a cut and dry assessment of a lnading like that tough. Being excited? I think I would be. But leary unless we have a "knowing" that the landing is real.

tacodog said;
"This would just prove one of the biggest lies we've ever been told. Perhaps then the people can take back control and prepare - or at least take the power away from "them". Without the truth being known, we are all powerless. Leaders will rise up among us and we will make it through disclosure. It cannot be any worse then the state the world is in these days."

tacodog,
I think there are a lot of people who would not understand what they are seeing if the starship landed in TS. I think the owls would instigate martial law before any prospective leaders had a chance to get on the ball. And I think it could be a lot worse than today. I am not saying the world today is all utopia of anything, but you never know what you have until it's gone. I, want to be wrong on that speculation.

jman95 said;
" Ok December 10, what did I miss here, my guess is we will find out if there really is a Santa Clause."

Come on jman, Santa lives on the far side of the moon. Jim Lovell said son on Apollo 8! ;)

Wayne

11/12/2005 08:12:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

I haven't seen clear skies like this since 9/11. Except, that the planes that are flying, and there aren't that many, are doing regular plane things with regular plane contrails. Really beautiful day today in S NJ, too bad I am indoors working. :(

11/12/2005 09:39:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Hi guys...

I see that dr. john found his way here. Welcome dr. john...

In regards to your comments on what I said about "Deep Impact" and "Armageddon", I hadn't thought about multiple landing gears for the shuttle. Also, I'm gonna hafta dig "Armageddon" out and watch the opening scene (I have it on tape somewhere)...

Oh yes, ssl400g, you mentioned that both movies don't deal with the social collapse that would follow the news of a killer asteroid (or comet in the case of "Deep Impact"). I noticed that too. That would make a good movie in itself, probably. They could possibly make a movie that follows the "Armageddon" or "Deep Impact" storyline, but from an alternate point of view, like a reporter on location of a city in chaos. Btw, I thought I saw a couple chemtrails earlier this morning, but they're gone now...

I like what tacodog said about "Reality shock..." for disclosure. If you have a huge, Manhattan-sized starship with a cloaking device, I say park it over Manhattan or D.C., clear the airspace, and drop the cloak after letting the press know where to point their cameras...

That's about it for now...

John

11/12/2005 10:06:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Ok, this is just odd...

3.8 2005/11/12 14:31:14 51.437 -175.148 10.0 ANDREANOF ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN IS., ALASKA

2.5 2005/11/12 10:14:53 57.327 -156.149 100.0 ALASKA PENINSULA

3.0 2005/11/12 03:32:42 57.003 -153.398 50.0 KODIAK ISLAND REGION, ALASKA

2.5 2005/11/12 02:58:33 62.424 -149.666 80.0 CENTRAL ALASKA

3.1 2005/11/12 01:57:33 51.289 -177.401 60.0 ANDREANOF ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN IS., ALASKA

3.2 2005/11/12 01:17:30 61.771 -147.146 20.0 SOUTHERN ALASKA

3.0 2005/11/12 00:46:58 56.167 -157.792 25.0 ALASKA PENINSULA

3.4 2005/11/12 00:35:22 54.017 -165.400 50.0 FOX ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISLANDS, ALASKA

2.9 2005/11/11 22:59:29 61.315 -146.875 20.0 SOUTHERN ALASKA

2.7 2005/11/11 22:47:11 64.673 -148.195 1.0 CENTRAL ALASKA

2.6 2005/11/11 21:41:10 51.700 -174.156 60.0 ANDREANOF ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN IS., ALASKA

2.7 2005/11/11 21:33:18 61.607 -146.530 1.0 SOUTHERN ALASKA

That's an awful lot of 3s...

John

11/12/2005 10:14:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Ssl4000g, I've seen clear skies on every 9/11 except for in 2003

11/12/2005 10:17:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

I just saw a new Cassini image, and got to thinking that they should have it look at the storm on Saturn's north pole (the hexagonal one)...

11/12/2005 10:26:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

crew,
check out this sat view of NE US;

http://www.weatherimages.org/data/imag7.html

what's all that over the ocean???

NE Regional radar;

http://wwwa.accuweather.com/radar-regional.asp?partner=accuweather&myadc=0&zipcode=&level=regional&type=sir&site=ne

Global sea temps;

http://www.weatherimages.org/data/imag151.html

Atlantic Ocean Sat;

http://www.weatherimages.org/data/imag4.html

11/12/2005 10:30:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Ssl4000g, I saw the images, and, especially from the global sea temps one, them thar waters're ripe fer hurricayne breedin'.

Think we'll see any more haarpicanes this season?

11/12/2005 10:37:00 AM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

disclosure, should proceed, with 'alternative energy'.

A Water fueled, hydrogen engine.

The same technology that submarines use to seperate sea water into Oxygen for the crew, could be given to the 'car' industry to make a car of FREE'ing and GREED FREE Proportions!!!

REMOVING THE METER between the USER and the Vehicle, will be the most liberating start to any 'technical revelution'.

You could run the engine to provide power to complete villages, to towns...

That is just the thin end of the wedge...

OIL for energy is BUNK!!!

it's the meter between the 'people' and FREEDOM!!!

John, I don't know if you were reading a few blogs back, but then reading isn't your fortea as yet...

There is a HAARP station based in Alaska, a 'project' based on Tesla's experiments, go research and READ John...

For the Dec 10th Date...

Yep Father Xmas, the return of the FATHER :)

naughty or nice time...

and just as another reminder, just as it's a coincidence

26th Dec 2003 Afghanistan 9.2 EQ 9K died...

26th Dec 2004 Asia 11.2 EQ 250K died...

26th Dec 2005...

it's just one those kind of coincidences, I've discovered since June this year, that have made me go hmmmmmmm...

Dec 10th 2005; jasgrave333.blogspot.com

11/12/2005 11:28:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

First off, Jas, I know that HAARP's in Alaska. What I was finding odd was the NUMBER of quakes in a relativley short time period. Normally, when you let us know about these haarpquakes, you have 1 or 2, and sometimes 3 listings. I just found the number of consecutive listings to be odd, that's all...

Ssl4000g, I'm getting chemtrails and ripples, how about you?

John

11/12/2005 11:32:00 AM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Sword,

As we previously have discussed. The truth of what YOU have diclosed concerning the immensity of the asteroid fragments incoming in 2012(Dec) leads me to contemplate whether any of the other topics have much relevence anymore in that impending near future scenario.
It is good to have an understanding of the bigger picture, like Mars, or ultra-technology features and weather control etc., but really, if we are truly going to be confronting and dodging a blizzard of debris likely to pummel the Earth and cause large scale "upheaval", then there are much more important "efforts" to be made in these coming years before that somewhat exact date that is being thrown around.
Does this intellectual play of ours, contemplating whether Mars preceded us and perhaps was us or any of the scavenger hunting we are doing really "PREPARE" us for what might be the near future situation?
I have encouraged the deeper path to higher undertanding and existence, at many points here along the way, so fear and dread is not useful to anything.
Yet it seems to me that with 7 years notice at our point of knowledge here, that our subject matter in the other areas starts to be like entertainment and distraction. A looking away from the all important truth, that far over-rides all other topics now.
In your previous comments you disclosed that there are many preperations that have been made and we are capable of using very advanced means of technology to deal with this predicament. That said, you have also shown some uncertainty as to our end result. Thats fine with me, life is life and death is its inevitable end(change), always.
So , a convergence of bright good souls becomes VERY relevent as in this Crew here, in far more depth than the apparent topics we are currently Playing with. What really is there to crack beyond this near future event?

Crack open the heart.

We have made our connections here, and exchanged social dynamics, but at heart we all know there is something more going on in this communion of ours.
Some of us have tried to articulate it and draw attention to it through the diversity of specialties we all are bringing in this coalescence.
In some way I don't feel there really is much course of Action needed other than this primary connection of us all in this medium as a convergence point.

A flock now Shepherded. You see?

We witnessed some themes and sourced some subjects, yet it was really just carrots to bring us all to this table.

Now we have Brightened Up and are Illuminated and feeling just a little bit more en.Lightened.

Many have learned or have opened Up, to let their voices speak their Truth, for the first time in many respects and are now realizing it is really all, just a Heart Shout for Truth, Clarity and Unity.
From across the Globe, FROM US.

So, this comment is more simply a statement of awareness.
A confession to all of perhaps why you all are really here and to acknowledge this is way beyond some other little players' notion of an experiment.

That is why there are so many healers and true mystics, scholars and real home academics, parlaying with ease together, consuming multiple perspectives in flexible receptivity to one another.

In my lifetimes of serious light work and advancing spiritual process, I am touched to witness such a pool of significance like we have become here. In person to person work, I have not met as many before, as I have connected to here,
in this TEMple of congruency.


sincere cohere indear no fear clear mirror peer seer

11/12/2005 11:38:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Bubba hyde, you should be getting an email from me soon with recent pix...

John

11/12/2005 11:47:00 AM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Ion, you have a gift. Thank you for more clearly stating what I have been feeling/thinking for so long.

I have been formulating a contingency plan. Invitations will come when approriate. Of course all here will be welcome if you so choose.

11/12/2005 11:59:00 AM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

I liked this a LOT :)

was posted on the other pub we where just in...

"blasted said...
ob2 said...
>(and Monkey Wrench may learn to eat clean chips)

rofl!, Monkey better pay attention, les't he get cleanly 'chipped' when he ain't lookin' as he just don't get it yet. He probably will volunteer tho' anyways, OH, da poor monkey.. monkey see? monkey doo-doo.


jasgrave333 said...
>Pretty much John, they are ALL locked down to the PSY OPS script at the moment...

big right on there, jas.. 'at the moment' = has been a really LONG time.. and I would wager that it will be a really LONG time before ANY media anybody will be able to speak freely on these topics, unless it was specifically ordered to be. cia/psyops have been embedded in the media since just about the beginning 30's 40's, maybe earlier. I have many articles with detail.. if only I had the time to organize better..

Here is a really good one:

Marshall McLuhan
A candid conversation with the high priest of popcult and metaphysician of media
http://www.vcsun.org/~battias/class/454/txt/mclpb.html

-snip-
Because all media, from the phonetic alphabet to the computer, are extensions of man that cause deep and lasting changes in him and transform his environment. Such an extension is an intensification, an amplification of an organ, sense or function, and whenever it takes place, the central nervous system appears to institute a self-protective numbing of the affected area, insulating and anesthetizing it from conscious awareness of what's happening to it. It's a process rather like that which occurs to the body under shock or stress conditions, or to the mind in line with the Freudian concept of repression. I call this peculiar form of self-hypnosis Narcissus narcosis, a syndrome whereby man remains as unaware of the psychic and social effects of his new technology as a fish of the water it swims in. As a result, precisely at the point where a new media-induced environment becomes all pervasive and transmogrifies our sensory balance, it also becomes invisible.
-snip-


on chemtrails:

Chemtrails, HAARP, and Mass Mind Control
OPEN LETTER TO YOU FROM TRANSPORT PILOT
http://www.geocities.com/theawakeningnews/Chemtrails-Chemtrails_HAARP_Mind.html

-snip-
Let's take a brief look at how and by whom the equations of Maxwell were changed, in order to make subsequent open scientific development that would have influenced civilization in a positive way, impossible.
-snip-

jas said...
>PS interesting 'noise' weapon generation demonstration on CNN SR... fires a high powered beam of noise...

checkout the brown note.. truth or gag.. ?? lots of interesting fodder..
The brown note (also referred to as "brown noise") was featured in an episode of South Park (#317: World Wide Recorder Concert) as a sound that caused people to empty their bowels uncontrollably, though the sound in the show was a low audible tone.


RE: that hideous Jehovah video thing..
I didn't mean to freak y'all out, but hey, I sure was, and didn't wanna be alone with that.
Truth is, that kinda sh!t IS out there, and worse. still creeps me out to think that SOMEBODY made that for a reason, aimed at the children. Chills to da bone. I feel there is much more to it, but I have yet to find anything thus far. Disturbing. Very. Many are saying they can't get the tune out of the head.. hmmm.. subliminal sh!t in there or what.. (thinks "THE RING" !?)

I REALLY think there is a controlled 'disclosure' happening, just in the wrong freakin' direction.
The REAL disclosures will not come easy, meaning via scandal, leaks, revolutions of sorts.

I found dat video originally, for those who may care
along with a bunch of other strange UN agenda info, here:
http://cyberspaceorbit.com/indexback168.html

This site above operated by Kent Steadman. Main page: http://cyberspaceorbit.com

Note page in the links eg. indexbackXXX. New page every week or so..
So many incredible things over the years.. been visiting that site since about 1998.
I cannot say enough about him and his work. Tremendous efforts by Kent. He deserves alot of recognition for what he has done/doing to forward the efforts.
Visit it often, you'll be impressed and learn alot too.


SunKing said...
>Odd pics...but the F-SHoD has a much more 'sinister bent' than that.

Ya for sure, U are right. just tryin to help ya with the 'visualizations', these were/looked FLAMING to me. So.. a "Flaming-Flying-ShitHook Of Death" came to mind. eg. FF-SHOD
I rofl'd awhile as it stills trips me out, THAT was sooo funny. I'll never forget it...
I just gotta go back and find that original post for the 'classics' file. >:D

>Which is why I said that if the 2nd Coming occurred today, most would not believe it...and if I'm not mistaken, that's in Revelations, no? Funny how things turn out.

Ya, you rite on the money SK. Not only would they not believe it, they(we?) wouldn't even recognize it.. unless it was on friends, raymond, apprentice, etc.. As Scarletm said a few posts back, stereotypical 'jas' would be more readily ID'd..lol, but no, it ain't really funny at all actually.

John said...
>Start covering UFO sightings, and have NASA back up statements made by eyewitnesses. Get reporters out there to talk to the eyewitnesses. Show people the REALLY GOOD Mars pictures. SHOW them the HAARPicanes. SHOW them the chemtrail planes. Just SHOW them!!!

Ahhhh. Youth. So full of piss 'n vinegar..
John, John, YO, DUDE;
NASA won't back up statements made by um.. NASA! ..for christ sake..
Major Media/Reporter's can't report on it, les't they get incarcerated or killed. It's in da contract, so to speak. Show em pictures? What do you think RCH has been doing for decades???
Have YOU tried?? Give it a go, you'll see.

I was a kook in 6th grade for suggesting, er.. insisting asteroid belt was exploded planet, not primordial leftover junk... after 5 decades, I'm still a kook. wtf. sure. just tell em. OK. Gee. why didn't we think of that. DOH!
That's why we're here, John. I think I mentioned it to ya prior posts. It's an individual ting.
All at the speed they can handle. Most of society got only 2 speeds. s l o w and stop.


jas said...
>Blasted, imagine a very dark dildo, with a bush whacker on one end, that's something like the Way SunKing Described his 'creation' hi hi hi

rofl... YOU said dildo.. hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.. oh. nm, you quoted SunKing.
rofl... SunKing said dildo.. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha..
I'd venture to say, a 'very dark' dildo made that freakin' video too.
wonder if they follow the gender/tense thang. You know? dil-do, dil-dar, dil-damos ??

>Whilst that sounds dramatic, an Apocolyptic change of paradigm (E.T. openly walking around Town for instance) is pretty mind bending, your mind could be swept away just by trying to comprehend where reality left off and the change took to be more exciting than real...
Unless your mind is prepared, it could well be just that, A FLOOD...
a Flood of data, information, technology, energy... etc etc etc...

WOW jas.
I see it like a 'flushing' flood, THEN the data reload.
3 finger salute ain't gonna get 'er done.
Doin' da full cold reboot wit dat new bios bro.

WOW to all the profound posts overnight WOW.

Can you Imagine, the energy, of all of us in ONE room. ONE house. ONE.

11/12/2005 09:00:02 AM "


Imagine dissa whole crew, inna one place at a good party, hookahs (as in bongs and females that sel.. oh never mind) and rum... breeze and good tropical Caribbean tunes playing, bro it should be filmed, too much >:)

11/12/2005 12:25:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

IonTru02, it's true demsa da words Sah!

we have a CREW a ACrewing :)

The old words what's a acrueing...

making a mental link to the spelling...

ACREWING a CREW...

11/12/2005 12:27:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

testing something :))

11/12/2005 12:33:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

ssl4000g, I got more chemtrails and ripples up here...

John

11/12/2005 12:48:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

jasgrave333 said...
Imagine dissa whole crew, inna one place at a good party, hookahs (as in bongs and females that sel.. oh never mind) and rum... breeze and good tropical Caribbean tunes playing, bro it should be filmed, too much >:)


Jas, I don't think I'd go to that party, because of the alcohol, illegal drugs, and hookers that would be there.

11/12/2005 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

jasgrave333 said...

John, John, YO, DUDE;
NASA won't back up statements made by um.. NASA! ..for christ sake..
Major Media/Reporter's can't report on it, les't they get incarcerated or killed. It's in da contract, so to speak. Show em pictures? What do you think RCH has been doing for decades???
Have YOU tried?? Give it a go, you'll see.


Jas, I've tried telling people the truth. Mom's very interested in the weather war now, and one of my friends at church thinks like we do. So, to answer your question, yes, I have tried.

11/12/2005 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

John, Hookahs, NOT hookers :))

too freaking funny

meaning NOT females that sell...

John just go read a LOT MORE ok?

TIP: research BONG...

hi hi hi 'jaidru' Ja druid...

11/12/2005 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

And I was talking about NASA backing up statements from eyewitnesses who saw UFOs in the sky (everyday people, not NASA)

11/12/2005 01:01:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

I know what a bong is, and I'm never going to do drugs (except for caffine)

11/12/2005 01:02:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

and John, my wayyyy tooo naive apprentice...

RESEARCH CANNABIS SATIVA

when you are done, then tell me what's illegal OK?

The reason CANNABIS SATIVA is ILLEGAL AGAIN JOHN, is that the USA Federal Drugs Agency, cannot put a METER between you and the SEED.

They cannot charge you for every herbal CANNABIS plant you could grow...

John, WORD OF ADVICE; DO NOT CALL UNCLEAN THAT WHICH THE GOD, CALLED CLEAN. Remember that scripture in Genesis?

Remember that I have used Cannabis since I was 17 years old...

There is no way, I should be able to have ANY of the skills or Qualificatations that I have, if you believed the demonising, govermental propoganda.

Do you remember Scarletm's link to the 'vote for MJ'?

READ John READ!!!

Smoke is mentioned 12 times in REVELATION

Incense is from RESONOUS TREES

The angel of GOD, has smoke ascending from his hand night and day, for the prayers of the holy ones.

he's from the SMOKING PIT.

READ John, Research!!!

This is a Revelation to you...

11/12/2005 01:06:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

Caffiene IS A DRUG JOHN and controlled by the FDA.

AS IS TOBBACO

as is alchohol..

as is asparin...

But there is a meter between you and your use of those products my dimly sighted student...

11/12/2005 01:08:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Finally made it outside today. What cool chemtrails. The synchronicity of them is what amazes me. Radar shows NO cloud cover and yet...in an asthetically pleasing, perfectly aligned diagram in a 'burst?' of 6 chemtrails all starting/ending at the same point and fanning out from there in what simulates rays? of chemtrails. Looks cool, scares the shit out of me. BTW, having trouble breathing today. Hmmmm

11/12/2005 01:08:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

I know caffine is a drug, and that's why I said "except caffine".

11/12/2005 01:14:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

...then you ARE A HYPOCRITE...

just because you are USED TO THE AFFECTS of Caffiene, that does not give you ANY RIGHT to judge what gives me my right to think!!!

It's SPIRITUAL FOOD John.

I eat the Herb, I drink the herb in Tea, and I SMOKE THE HERB.

Three uses John...

If I had a piece of land to call GODS, I'd grow it and bathe in it...

When it's DECRIMINALISED, I will sign up to volunteer to assist cultivate, grow, and pick da stuff...

Sign ME TODAY!!!

So BACK TO YOU John, WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO JUDGE?

your 21 years old apparently, so by the time I was 17, I was already, employed and in an apprentace-ship, as an electrical technician, I'd already given many long speeches at the local cult Watchtower bible and tract society hall and was partying in stadiums of 10,000 people consuming acid...

I could drive, and drinking was just on the legal edge...

You catch my drift John for 21, you haven't seen much yet...

Life gets better...

11/12/2005 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Jas, take a deep breath, say WOOSAAAAA and remember that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Lead, not badger. Even I sometimes need lead in the right direction. Thankfully most everyone here is kind enought to remind me that I already am going in the right direction. I for one am glad to see that we have younger ones here that are willing, even eager to learn and yearning to DO SOMETHING. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. We must use them to the CREWES advantage. John is in a unique position to plant seeds among our youth. Those seeds may not amount to much today, but given the proper amount of time, the will flourish and ultimately HELP when disclosure comes. Picture the children leading and comforting the old.

11/12/2005 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

I wasn't trying to judge you at all, all I was doing was saying that I wouldn't be at a pary for certain reasons. Somehow, the topic got switched to what's legal and what's illegal...

Wow, thanks krazyby4kids, although I'd hardly be a "youth", because I'm 21.

11/12/2005 01:27:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

John, have you not learned NEVER EVER argue with your elders? Most often they are wiser than you. As always, judge not lest you be judged. Now, you two MEN need to agree to disagree until one or the other changes your view.

11/12/2005 01:27:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

...Wooosahhhhhh...

Somebody else tell him...

11/12/2005 01:28:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

your not judging me, your calling a herb illegal...

That makes your comments as hypocritcal as saying caffiene is ok.

Because a BEAN grows out of the ground, you think that's ok.

WRONG, if Caffiene was made illegal tomorrow, would you still drink it?

Your being a hypocrite cabin hand...

11/12/2005 01:30:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

You're absolutely right krazyby4kids. Jas, whaddaya say we agree to disagree on this issue? After all, Miles O'Brian and Dr. Julian Bashir (from ST:DS9) didn't always see eye to eye...

11/12/2005 01:31:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

Drugs? Disclosure?
The War on Drugs is partly about a war on higher consciousness.
Certain drugs play a key role in the 'consciousness revolution'. Using drugs, the people begin to see through the scams. Psychedelics in particular were a serious threat to the con.
The War on Disclosure is also (partly) a war on higher consciousness, because thatis linked with disclosure of HD / Scalar technology.
The consciousness lowering drugs are advertised on TV and handed out like candy.
Consciousness raising drugs are banned.
uni

11/12/2005 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

krazy,

I have been working on a contingency as well. Kind of a community driven repository if you will different than mannedexploration.com. We at some point will need a place to put things and collaborate on different projects and efforts. We are already a community so the time will come when we will need a place of our own for our, to quote George Carlin, "STUFF."

Here is what I am envisioning guys/gals so give me feedback here.

1) a good repository for files and pics.

2) the ability for collaboration on projects.

3) the ability to actually write books online.

4) a centralized location where we can bring friends and others to read and discuss said material.

5) a place for private and public discussions among community members.

I have a new domain secured - veritates.com.

Veritates is Latin for Truths. If someone is already way ahead of me or has a better idea let me know and like I said any feedback is welcome.

bubba hyde

11/12/2005 02:15:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

krazyby,
Could you please be a bit more specific, even if in a general way, re your contingency plans?
thanks,
uni

11/12/2005 02:18:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Jas, Yesterday I took a look at your blog. I was in search of the info regarding Dec 10th. Thank you for your journey and your research. You have given me something more to research. I have always been skeptical of organized religion. History proves that churches are the best means of controlling the masses. As far as the govt not being able to control the sale of pot, you left a few things out. The government has jumped on this money making bandwagon and has gotten its fingers into the pie in order to try to control who gets it and for how much. The govt has started allowing a few select farmers to grow and produce it in the form of 'medical marijuana'. See the corporate hands out? G15 is the most sought after blend amongst the stupid sheep in our area. I would never touch anything that the government okays. It is just like the other dumb us down.

11/12/2005 02:18:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Uni, I think I have been brought to this forum to provide a safe haven in the face of mass panic and the institution of military states. I hope to be able to reveal the location in enough time for anyone here to get there before the road blocks and travel restrictions are put into effect. (Jas, here is where your dream comes true...lots of land) I hope we will not have to face the horrors I think are coming. I want to be wrong, but I cant help but wonder why I have this resource available, and why I have been accepted into the group with no scientific skill, just an understandiing of what is being discussed. I felt the need to let you all know (give hope?) that we can survive the coming apocolypse and rise up to lead others through the light. Make sense?

11/12/2005 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

krazy,

WOW! That kind of contingency plan. bubba wakes up and smells the coffee.

11/12/2005 02:33:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Bubba, most other scenarios of disclosure we can get through, however, with the events that are currently unfolding, I am feeling increasingly uneasy. I hope I didnt scare you.

11/12/2005 02:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

krazy,

Not at all. I have had similar thoughts about the future. I too believe dark days may be ahead. The truth always comes with a price and a dark scenario as you suggest just might be that price.

11/12/2005 02:42:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

krazy, NOW DAT IS sweet, LAND...

Somewhere to grow what The God gave us :)

Yep there is a LOT to read, r.e. the blog, it's pretty easy, just hang with it, be happy, don't worry, and peace :)

I've had the Canabbis discussion at many many levels, including highest office of police here, and judges, lawyers etc...

I've not broken the 10 commandments and Jesus gave no instruction against it, as said before, he was probably more than a fan himself (allegedly)...

To prevent it's use, is to be a lover of money, as it's the last of the FREE Enterprise areas, where each could and can EASILY grow their own 'coffee' to use an illustration...

It's a financial issue, and I agree, if you want a more commedy look at issue, there's a GREAT film from the 70's called 'up in smoke'.

Dat film, is pure humour, from start to finish...

and Uni, yep, the war on drugs, same as the war on terror, it's all just pathetic lies, rhetoric designed to conTROLL the massess...

well thissa cat, see's through the stinky BS and reject the stoopid propoganda...

sigh good rant...

Been up da rum shack wid da wifey, is sweet and warm today, beer chilled and chicken, curried...

k, gonna consult da Hookah, for a little spiritual meditation...

11/12/2005 03:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saturday, November 12, 2005
HHMSS
Sword

My current apprenticeship is going great – not that it matters here. I feel joy in working outside and doing projects that I can call my own. Even though the stars may fall – someone will be needed to rebuild. I will be one of those men. I want to build things that last as long as the pyramids – or as long as a symbolic face.

I feel slightly odd however – being half “awakened” – and doing my religious duty. Building things knowing that in less than a decade they will be gone or severely damaged gives me a strange sensation throughout the day.

KrazyBy4Kids said...
Okay Sword, properly chastised. (I feel like a teeny bopper again...thanks)
Better question (rephrased): Dec. 10, may I please get the specifics of that date.

Sword:
I was always under the impression that December 2005 held some sort of significance for me. I have speculated on it much over the years since I left the Army. The fact that another poster here, Jasgrave, eluded to 10 Dec 05 perked my interest.
I think the earlier discussions regarding this date have resulted in coming to believe that another poster, a rather important one, would post and article resulting in some sort of form of disclosure. It’s like getting a helmet as your first gift for Christmas, where is you really didn’t need one before – and there is a really big present under the tree. A better way to view this scenario mind you, would be a “completion of a mission”.

KrazyBy4Kids said...
Does your reply mean that there will be important disclosure on that date, or that discovery will be made but the true impact will not be felt til much later?

Sword:
I think that any further informaiton coming from our “important poster” – “on matters… …” will have a sudden and profound impact on all of the readers here. Of course I also feel that that ripple will be felt in the radio meida pond as well… …

KrazyBy4Kids said...
I get the date thing now. I just love to hear sword ramble.

Sword:
Ramble?!


Wayne
Sword, IYO what direction will they becoming from (ie;below or above the ecliptic)?

Sword:
Coverage will be complete. As I said before, its a lot of debris. When it slings past the sun one last time it will fan out, disperseing it. So we have the chance of getting hit several times with multiple asteriods within a realitivly short period of time. Remember – all we can do is soften the blow

Wayne
I wonder if we could get some assistance from the skypeople already in the solar system?

Sword:
Out to lunch comes to mind on that matter… …


Wayne:
Sword, are these asteroid already discovered? I am under the impression they are. And if so, are they forecast for the Dec 21, 2012 date or sooner like jas's date of Dec 10, 2005?

Sword:
Of course.
Did you forget that these asteroids are the remnants of the star of crossing and that Jesus foretold the coming apocalypse? Jesus arrived with the coming of the “star” – of course he knew what it truly was and he new that in the near future it would return – with vengeance.
The 2012 date is “ruff” – and not related to the 10 Dec 05 date. While there will be many celestial alignments during this time(2012) – its very difficult to determine the speed of a destroyed planet in an elliptical orbit coming back for its last hoo-raa.

Wayne:
Will that change the outcome of any asteroids hitting or our be able to get them to not hit? I know you've answered that in the positive previously, but what would 6Bil people contribute to the resolution of that? Wouldn't the pandemonium and mob mentality stifle any positive attempts to resolve the crisis?

Sword:
The only thing we have going for us is one brave unit of Masonic warriors and there “wheels” that there great uncle Sam is providing for them.
Six billion people? C’Mon, and all of there are capable of doing something for the cuase? And yes, you are right the pandemonium caused by open disclosure to soon would seriously effect the planned outcome. This is why I have elected to say – lets talk about why not disclose immediately.


jasgrave333 said...
disclosure, should proceed, with 'alternative energy'.
A Water fueled, hydrogen engine.

Sword:
That’s going to happen after the big event.
Like I said before – with that much debris penetrating the soil and really shaking things up – nothing will be the same anymore. You WILL NOT be able to dig for oil as the pockets of it will be very well dispersed into the soil. I wouldn’t want to live in an oil rich country and have even a medium sized rock embed itself into the soil – ka-boom!
On another note: I was very surprised by your blog entry regarding the image of the three pillars and pyramid. This is much very Masonic symbolism.


IonTruO2 said...
Sword,
As we previously have discussed. The truth of what YOU have diclosed concerning the immensity of the asteroid fragments incoming in 2012(Dec) leads me to contemplate whether any of the other topics have much relevence anymore in that impending near future scenario.

Sword:
I gave you guys and dolls the overview of everything that is happening with quite a few hints as to the locations to look for clues. Yet, chem trails seems to be the hot topic. Chem trails?

IonTruO2 said...
…dodging a blizzard of debris likely to pummel the Earth and cause large scale "upheaval", then there are much more important "efforts" to be made in these coming years before that somewhat exact date that is being thrown around.

Sword:
Its all really in the finesse of timing. The real determined efforts are hidden from public view. What is the average household really going to do about something that is coming seven years from now? Seriously? What can they do? Nothing, in the grand scheme of things. The only real alternative is to keep working and pay there taxes so Uncle Sam can pay specialized workers a salary why they prepare the required equipment.

IonTruO2 said...
Yet it seems to me that with 7 years notice at our point of knowledge here, that our subject matter in the other areas starts to be like entertainment and distraction. A looking away from the all important truth, that far over-rides all other topics now.

Sword:
Hey man – I don’t run this blog – the posters do.
I laid out the truth that has already been proven in so many ways, historically, biblically, and scientifically – yet – chem trails is the topic, Alaskan earthquakes – greedy oil mongers, yet – the truth has already been spoken. Deaf ears I suppose. No one really, truly listens to the words spoken by Jesus or the whole world would know, that indeed – something is coming.
You can lead a horse to water… …

IonTruO2 said...
That said, you have also shown some uncertainty as to our end result. Thats fine with me, life is life and death is its inevitable end(change), always.

Sword:
No one has ever done what we are trying to do. Will it be dangerous? Does the pope wear a funny hat?
I would like to say that what we are doing is a galactic first.
However – we have Faith, we have Hope, and in the end – my people will be freed from secrecy by our open and giving Charity.

IonTruO2 said...
What really is there to crack beyond this near future event?

Sword:
Nothing.
The time after this big event will lead to some very interesting times. Discovery. That’s the word for the generations following the big event. I really truly feel that the peoples will shed capitalism and conformity and reach up for the stars instead of reaching into somebody’s pocket.

IonTruO2 said...
A confession to all of perhaps why you all are really here and to acknowledge this is way beyond some other little players' notion of an experiment.

Sword:
The experiments over.
I gave verifiable clues and just about spelled out exactly what is happening – and – nothing happened. I might have perked a few peoples interests, but no major news media spilled the beans. No one truly became enlightened. Instead, we have more picture of clouds and more reports of Alaskan earthquakes.
The only way to acknowledge anything else from here – is out of MY hands – and placed in another captains hands… …

Sword

11/12/2005 03:38:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

Sword, do I get an honorary, lambskin apron?

I mean, look the square and compass crossed, is the same as the Six pointed Israeli flag...

Judeo/christian blend of egyption pyramid worship...

Mixed with true Masonary findings of 3's and 5's, measuring a self proclaimed temple, full of 'leaders' with a pirate type captain of 33 degrees of masonic learnings...

able to change by one or 33 degrees is a privelidge to the secret ranks...

it's the rivalry between the lodges that first peeked my interest.

They don't work in unison, although each has a stated goal of TRUTH seeking, faith and charity...

That must mean, each is looking for the TOP TOP TOP TRUE 333rd degree leader...

Right eh Sword?

meaning for all the AGAPE and alteristic intentions, the 'search' for the TRULY enlightened was the goal of the MASONIC origins right?

The Skull and Cross bones, the Lion Heart, Pirate crew...

Ships would have had these 'mysteriously' common numbers too... 33 the temperature of just above freezing...

Every 33 feet under water is considered ONE atmosphere...

and 33 feet is the distance water can be 'sucked' up, before specialist pumping equipment can be used...

and once you study it, you notice all kind of symbolism...

So what do your 'brothers' make of all mi natural findings, r.e. the way this TEM-Ple is working and their own lodges?

just curious...

11/12/2005 04:06:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

yes, that picture was just an 'inspired' look at the dot...

If you stare at it long enough, your eyes will cross... but truly, that's what I see, A pyramid and THREE pillars...

http://strange-spot-next-to-sun-18th-july-05.blogspot.com/

11/12/2005 04:09:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

The media has been covering the current meteor shower and trying to tell us that this is normal. There is always a meteor shower at this time of year. I do not recall meteors making it through the atmosphere in previous years. We are being fed the disinfo to keep us unaware.

No Sword, your breed crumbs have not been lost on me, I become distracted and forget to follow them. Unfortunately my skill set is not to be a discoverer, only a protector of such as you and some of the others here. Build away, I am quite positive that something of great importance is to come of it, even if it is the practice and joy derived. Please build. Please build. Tears in my eyes...why? Please build.

wwwuno

11/12/2005 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

krazyby4kids,

I like you! Glad you're here!

Interesting reading, crewe...and Crypt0? Bravo, sir! But truly, good stuff from all of you.

At work...still installing and testing my new payroll release...what a bear. Hence my quietness!

11/12/2005 04:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jasgrave333 said...
>I liked this a LOT :)
>was posted on the other pub we where just in...
>"blasted said...

Thanks for the heads up jas, and for bringing my post across.
I'm such a eejit.. lol.. I watched it sit at 333 posts in disbelief for over 24 hours..
never dawned on me that it was intentional and y'all moved over.. DOH!
Then I went and posted stuff besides, totally trashin' the 333'ness.. some people...
Thanks again, glad ya liked mi post.

jas said...
>Imagine dissa whole crew, inna one place at a good party, hookahs (as in bongs and females that sel.. oh never mind) and rum... breeze and good tropical Caribbean tunes playing, bro it should be filmed, too much >:)

Count me in jas. Party like it's 199.. um 2011.. sigh..

11/12/2005 04:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sunking,

Any response to your fax?

11/12/2005 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

Hey all...gotta go...catch up tomorrow....
totaly OT and totally inapproriate...but I just gotta say

RRROOOOOOOOLLLLLLL

TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!

11/12/2005 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

negativo, bubba!

11/12/2005 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1 2 3

11/12/2005 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aaaaaa B C!

THAT'S how simple Love can be!

11/12/2005 05:32:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

blasted, no worries bro :)

all in good fun... loving this learning area, called blogging...

And you is ALL counted in, even Mr Wet behind the ears John, if he can get over his prissy self...

Tide of Change 'a' comin crew, we is strollin inna da right direction...

11/12/2005 05:36:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

...Oil companies make $33Billion in profit... GRRRRRrrrrrrrrrr

11/12/2005 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good points, jman!

In the back of my mind I see the 'veritas', to borrow the expression, of the concept that mankind continually goes thru the 4 ages, Gold/Silver/Bronze/Iron, and thought that we are currently in the Iron age. And that only thru some cataclymic change is the Golden Age reinstated.

And I feel the truth of this in that what, truly, will change mankind in our current mindset or state of consciousness. Same train of thought as I had the other day that even the 2nd Coming, where it to occur, would not be believed. And along the same lines of thought that many here have expressed the past few days discussing 'disclosure'. We are vastly jaded, our minds corrupted by mass-targeted lies and psy-ops campaigns, etc. Probably the worst result of my many years of study and seeking is that I have no idea what to believe in...except the ideas that Iontru02 and Tzemt express so well...that in the final analysis, it is the state of the inner being that matters (help me here, ion!).

But even THAT oft times leave with pondering "Is that it?"

11/12/2005 06:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

crypto;
I've read some of 'Quigley's' work online. Quite revealing to say the least. I'll see if I still have it/links etc..
and post, if I do.

In 1988, Britain's Prince Philip expressed the wish that, should he be reincarnated, he would want to be a deadly virus that would reduce world population.

http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/killer.htm

11/12/2005 08:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting, crypt0. Don't know what else to say...Fascinating?

11/12/2005 08:11:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

john said;
Ssl4000g, I'm getting chemtrails and ripples, how about you?

John

11/12/2005 11:32:58 AM

Clear as a bell til around 4:00pm, then the planes started coming. Well, they at least let us have almost two hole days of beautiful skies.

jas said;
All at the speed they can handle. Most of society got only 2 speeds. s l o w and stop.*

Ooooohhh Yyyeeeaaaassss.

krazyby4kids said;
Finally made it outside today. What cool chemtrails. The synchronicity of them is what amazes me. Radar shows NO cloud cover and yet...in an asthetically pleasing, perfectly aligned diagram in a 'burst?' of 6 chemtrails all starting/ending at the same point and fanning out from there in what simulates rays? of chemtrails. Looks cool, scares the shit out of me. BTW, having trouble breathing today. Hmmmm

11/12/2005 01:08:29 PM

My chemtrails started just after or around 4:00pm EST and they were working their way East. Now, what's up with that?

krazy again;
Uni, I think I have been brought to this forum to provide a safe haven in the face of mass panic and the institution of military states. I hope to be able to reveal the location in enough time for anyone here to get there before the road blocks and travel restrictions are put into effect. (Jas, here is where your dream comes true...lots of land) I hope we will not have to face the horrors I think are coming. I want to be wrong, but I cant help but wonder why I have this resource available, and why I have been accepted into the group with no scientific skill, just an understandiing of what is being discussed. I felt the need to let you all know (give hope?) that we can survive the coming apocolypse and rise up to lead others through the light. Make sense?

11/12/2005 02:26:45 PM \

I am not scientifically trained either. I am an artist and musician. Be that as it may, I do my best to do wwhat I do outside the back while paying attention to details most peopl would miss. I am glad to be here and contribute what I can. One does not want to suffer from terminal uniqueness.

Sword,
Thanks for the reply's. You said that the remnants of the planet of crossing are known. Is that what the IRAS satellite found back in 1983? (I think it was IRAS) IF it was the PofCrossing, that would explain why it was never expounded upon further in any papers let alone mainstream media.
So the 2012 date is rough because they are unable to really calculate the speed of the thing. Hmm, they can calculate trajectory or orbital information from a few sitings, why is this one so difficult?
No, 6Bil people are not capapble of doing something for the cause. They are ignorant. You are right, they would wreck everything without even thinking twice about it.
Sword, what is the planned outcome? Also, why are chemtrails irrelevent to anything that is going on? I realize they won't help in any way against the incoming asteroid problem, but why are the trails there?
So, ET is out to lunch. Well then, seems like we are on our own in all this. Sorry if it takes a while to sink in but learning new things and understanding them is two different things.


crew,
sword posted some heavy things. Our focus seems to be bearing on things that are irrelevent to the big deal he talks about. How do we get more focused on the big picture?

Wayne

11/12/2005 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sword, (well, meant for All actually, but sword got me thinkin..)

Don't you go feelin' all ignored now. You have to realize, how important things you've said, have been weighed here. (at least by me anyways and I'm sure some others). Ya, sure, there are a few folks 'new' to this stuff, gettin' their feet wet on issues of relatively minor distraction, when compared to the main event(s). Others, I truly believe, are just flat 'not ready' psychologically to grasp/handle/admit to, what they are finding. It's a very different world view. I've been in both those places at some point, in the past, as we all have. No?
Skepticism, ignorance, denial, at differing levels, until it becomes un-ignorable, nagging, incessant, obsessive, urgent.
I feel it important to help them grow and adjust, at whatever level, same as we all have/had to do.

I'm gonna share a little here, and hopefully you'll feel, understand, acknowledge, the personal sacrifices one makes, the sheer frustration, anger, sadness, isolation, compassion and all that those of us, on the 'other' side of the knowledge barrier go through, to get to here and now. YOU, are a special case. lifelong specific training, specific knowledge etc.. I/we have not had that form of disclosure/reality update and verification process.

I have spent just about my ENTIRE life, 5 frikkin' decades, to BE here and dammit, I want to know WHY.
Please, spare me the scolding. It ain't warranted. If I could, I'd be with your team, helping, when the time comes.. I'd truly give my life up for it to be NOT True. But, alas, IT IS. I know this. I've known for a long, long, time and sure would like to know, why. Why do I know? How do I know? What do I know even?? The purpose WILL eventually be revealed. I can truly relate to the character in 'Close Encounters', building the plateau in his kitchen. Yes, it feels alot like that.

When I was younger, I told my mom I was meant for the future. Born too early. She never understood what the heck I meant by that.. Being 'different' in the knowing, makes for a tough go in life. You know. Others, know. Most all, do not. It's awful damn hard work, with no help, acknowledgement, recognition, rewards or other little joys and pleasures most others, experience.. And none expected. But TRUTH demanded, or ferreted out if need be. Makes ya real unpopular, for sure.

Spend 5 decades searching, reading, researching, 1000's of books, bibles and religious documents, artworks, articles, maps, places, structures, pix, events, vibes, dreams, visionary thoughts just dropped out of nowhere.. strangest koinky-doinks of all kinds.. Spend countless hours trying to explain to others, to 'help' others to see, or at least contemplate the possibilities.. I have proved it enough to my self to get past the BS. Even without Sword input. It's all there, all around us. It requires WORK. Few stomach it nowadays it seems. Some simple stuff too, if you THINK about it at all. Like; why, why in *any* kind of sanity, would all ancient societies have spent the efforts to carve this into rock and clay tablets? (think redundancy..) Because they were bored, had nuthin' better to do? To hoax us all? How lame. You can almost hear 'em laughing right now. They have put more effort into our survival as a species than anyone since, bar none. And no, they were NOT joking folks. This is the real deal. It comes. It's cyclical. well it was, this being the last big hurrah. Ya, blogs and forums, trolls, media bla bla.. can get under your skin/patience level right quik, for sure.


I admire and applaud your devotion to task. Even envious in a strange sorta way.

Please just know, that there ARE others that have spent their lives pretty much alone in all this..
seeking, searching, re-searching trying to connect the dots, to make sense of what most everyone else just plain does not, cannot, see 'nor admit.

11/12/2005 08:14:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

crew,
Clue me in here, why is this the last hoorah for the planet of crossing? What did I miss that said the planet broke up? The last I read on that was from Sitchen. Would appreciate a little help on this.

Wayne

11/12/2005 08:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wayne
The planet was basically torn apart last passage. all that's left is the rubble.
Search prior posts/blogs's for sword posts. he pretty much spells it all out.

I will try to gather all my input, references etc.. and post..

11/12/2005 08:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Methinks Crew has foreseen his own end and having finally found others to share it all with, is wishing for just a little more of something (physical ability? time? does it really matter what it is?) I pray for your survival, maybe you should check with kraz about the contingency plans.

11/12/2005 08:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

woops, meant blasted not crew.

11/12/2005 08:47:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

Thanks blasted, I don't keep a log of these things. Never thought about it really. Appreciate your effort.

Wayne

11/12/2005 08:51:00 PM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

What I was finding odd was the NUMBER of quakes in a relativley short time period.

If it's below mag 4.0 it's too small to be important!!

11/12/2005 09:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ya np wayne.
I am actually trying to isolate/put together all of the 'pertinent' sword posts/responses for those who are inclined..
not real far yet, but gettin there. somewhere's a few blogs back he mentioned it making for a good book.. hope he does, too. thought it would be cool to have an original transcript so to speak.

hmm.. sword and the stones.. :D

11/12/2005 09:17:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

blasted, i am sure a lot of folks will appreciate that. :)

W

11/12/2005 09:20:00 PM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

Coverage will be complete. As I said before, its a lot of debris.

There is NO debris coming. NOTHING is going to happen!!
No observations of this debris exists.

11/12/2005 09:22:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Blasted, I will gladly help. Give me a blog to search and I will cut and paste for you. I was actually going to do that for myself, but I like your idea better.

11/12/2005 09:24:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

TEM Temperance
and...
Gently Jasgrave333
burst not bubble
at heart no trouble,
he will go and grow,
done know...

11/12/2005 09:36:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

I remember watching Logans Run when I was younger. The scene when Logan reaches the surface, I remember thinking to my young self 'That's what it will look like after.'
How often do you go about you perfectly normal day and think to yourself DEJA VU? My whole life has been a series of deja vu's.

To quote Armageddon: Nasa's skywatch budget is $1M, and beggin yer pardon, sir, but it's a big ass sky. Probably the most truthful statement of the whole movie, not counting the whole lowest bidder bit.

11/12/2005 09:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
>Methinks Crew has foreseen his own end and having finally found others to share it all with, is wishing for just a little more of something (physical ability? time? does it really matter what it is?) I pray for your survival, maybe you should check with kraz about the contingency plans.
11/12/2005 08:45:45 PM

Thank you. I think..

blasted has foreseen his own true BEGINNIGS, is gratefull for being able to share it with others, is anticipating it's presence and is peparing to contribute when his destiny unfolds. (physical abilities-excellent/irellevent. time-illusion/irrellavent. YES, it does matter, it IS what's inside you, matters MOST. Pray for enlightenment, survival is but temporary. Contingency plans usually find me, jack of all trades... ya, master of none. but damn close on many!!

peace

11/12/2005 09:50:00 PM  
Blogger tacodog said...

Perhaps I’m just a frustrated old biddy with her hair tied in a knot because the “Truth” is out there and I’m finding it so hard to reach.
The truth is buried somewhere beneath all this info and disinfo – but where….
We are told by the news on a daily basis that we could be destroyed by a nuke, biochemical agents, a fatal flu and that this could happen tomorrow, next week, next year. And yet, the people have not panicked, nor have they created total chaos. Security has been increased to try and prevent the nukes from coming into the country (have they prevented them from coming in? - who knows); scientists are researching biochemical agents and viruses for cures (how many scientists have died (naturally/unnaturally) these past few years again?) And yet we question whether or not we should tell the people that in the Year 2012 the earth will be bombarded with asteroids. That is 7 years away. Now, if the news did their reporting this way: Chicago has just been nuked, New York City is next; People are dying like flies from a chemical poison in their water and we don’t know how many US water systems have been poisoned, the researchers are out now testing the waters….; The bird flu has hit San Francisco and the hospitals cannot handle the influx of patients sick/dying of this flu, they are totally overwhelmed, doctors say we do not know if this virus can be cured or contained…! Then I think you would see panic and total chaos. It would be like screaming “Fire” and everyone panics and heads for the door only to be killed by others trampling over them.
Perhaps the Truth will unite the people in a common cause – like “To save the Earth” and we are given 7 years to do so. Right now the people are becoming culturally separated, angry, and hateful. Terrorism and wars breaking out here and there, and WWlll on the horizon (with weapons powerful enough to destroy the earth). Millions of people dying whether it be in conflict, sickness, disasters, or just starvation. Now – that is total chaos and pretty bleak don’t you think?
I have to ask, why not concern ourselves with chemtrails. They are happening now, have been going on for years. World governments must know about them – if they don’t why are they allowing it to happen without question? Is it to protect Earth somehow? Utilize new high tech weaponry? That is just a small part of the total “Disclosure” picture that needs to be addressed. Another question; Is 2012 for sure? We don’t know that to be true yet. If fear controls people and the gov’t told their people that in 2012 the Earth would be bombarded with asteroids and that “hopefully” we will have the technology to save it, would that not be a useful tool to control the people? Would we go on blindly eating, sleeping, consuming, and dying – paying our taxes and trusting that the gov’t will protect us, especially when previous actions by gov’ts have shown that we, the people, are not a high priority, but slaves to do with as “they” will?
When are we ever truly prepared for the Truth? Not until the Truth is revealed will we know for sure how people will react – but don’t you think the Truth will set us free? Heck, highjack enough Starships to land them in every country for all the people to see!
Yes to Disclosure Now!

11/12/2005 10:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

interesting thread here re:disclosure of the other kind..
truth or fiction not withstanding but timing..
you'll find thousands upon thousands of documents, posts, blogs etc..
building up to critical mass, I call it.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?message=181592&mpage=1&topic=3&showdate=11/12/05

11/12/2005 10:56:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Blasted,

Awakening!!
nothing to repeat there,I hear you, bright one!!

This was interesting!
You Said:
she (pretty, small, feminine hands with lotza rings) was showing me a silk/satin sash/scarf or something like that. It was all sparkin' ruby colors, jeweled with rubies, emeralds and precious tings of all kinds. Rich reds and blues, splashes of greens and yellows. It was just beautiful. She was so emphatic about the importance of it, kept shoving it at me like I wasn't gettin' the message.

Funny how da mind works. The last post I made re:T'zmet
------------------------
T'zemt said...
>***Finally*** finished sewing on the dance belt..

iontruo2--> She was showing you?!! Thats magnificent.
Thats her working with the Shikhara. Meeting you in that vision, bejeweled and instructive.
You were getting it, you just described some of it! She was just insistent to be seen and notably noticed. T'zemt is here , just non-verbally, lets invite her to rejoin dialogue! We LOVE YU T'zemt!!


jasgrave333,
you said...
IonTru02, it's true demsa da words Sah!
we have a CREW a ACrewing :)
The old words what's a acrueing...
making a mental link to the spelling...

ACREWING a CREW...

11/12/2005 12:27:46 PM

iontruo2---> simply brilliant!!!
Accrue!! I even looked that one up!
That was a perfect companion to your one of TEM and people is a TEMple!! uh huh u huh dats it sah!



Blasted,
You said: And I feel the truth of this in that what, truly, will change mankind in our current mindset or state of consciousness. Same train of thought as I had the other day that even the 2nd Coming, where it to occur, would not be believed. And along the same lines of thought that many here have expressed the past few days discussing 'disclosure'. We are vastly jaded, our minds corrupted by mass-targeted lies and psy-ops campaigns, etc. Probably the worst result of my many years of study and seeking is that I have no idea what to believe in...except the ideas that Iontru02 and Tzemt express so well...that in the final analysis, it is the state of the inner being that matters (help me here, ion!).

But even THAT oft times leave with pondering "Is that it?"

11/12/2005 06:41:27 PM

iontruo2--->As we come to see that we are "vastly jaded, our minds corrupted ", we at some point make the realization that we are observing it, or that.
In that, we are seeing something that appears to be occurring before us.. That occurring, is obstructing but not necessarily binding. So when witnessed to be merely an activity running pretty much unto itself, we become conscious to its repitition. It does not persist in the light of awareness.
"vastly jaded, our minds corrupted" is a great road sign to the inherent mechanism of doubt, question manifesting from root fear, transcending it altogether becomes knowable in its visibility.

"Is that it?"? you had said.
The question itself, the very question at impulse, that, huh?, whats that?, doubt?, don't know.
Thus, that faltering of Ego self's receptivity, helps reveal what IS.
What IS, always already the case, the source basic state of it all, inherent prior joyful awareness in consciousness, unfiltered and misread, not delayed in perceptions of narcisisus. Yes this is us all in humanity's reflective self gazing.
Present Reality eyes wide open with heart, is a living process steeped in wonderment and intermeshed synchronicities of bewildering appropriateness. Awe struct moments, abound, corrective realignments and healings just occur and paths steer true. This is the golden tangable. No longer self-emotionally stuck on, personal conditions, one moves more into subjective service of an outpouring that never empties, and with "awakening", at times, frustratingly, never tires.

In no dilemma, no doubt,
it became the problem of no problem,
but that will pass too.
and still many things arose to know,so well,
when I got out of the way. :)

11/12/2005 11:03:00 PM  
Blogger tacodog said...

Blasted: is this for true?! If so, bout time. Thanks for the link.

11/12/2005 11:07:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Jas: I'm just sorry that you got such a late start in life"""LOL

John..do you think that if you actually read one of the links posted here that you would get
intoxicated?

http://www.illuminati-news.com/marijuana-conspiracy.htm

crazy...stock up on seeds
compost

thanx anonymous..I won't uninclude anybody but when the poster is at work and works at NASA, you have to wonder if they are just posting their latest work details.

would the NASA party like to respond to the Compton disinfo?

I found a website that would interest you Sword (if that really is your Name)..How about the BW tests at Fort Dix? You are a cohesive group aren't you.

I will post B iological W eapons testing soon.

11/12/2005 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KrazyBy4Kids said...
>Blasted, I will gladly help. Give me a blog to search and I will cut and paste for you. I was actually going to do that for myself, but I like your idea better.
11/12/2005 09:24:02 PM


Thanks, yer awesome, KB4K
Start at the beginnng "War of the worlds" and work foreward.
I started with this one, the most recent and working back..
I am taking any to/from sword directly or any other necessary to provide continuity in following the thread.

By all rights, the entire thing is so awesome but 7-800 pages.. whew baby!

Also working on combining the entire series of blogs/posts in one complete pdf and doc formats.

11/12/2005 11:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dont know taco.. prolly not.. hope so..
but as i said, the timing.. it's a hot topic it seems
and building!!

11/12/2005 11:15:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

So many great posts,
naming is challenging.
Yet I must comment to Krazyby4kids:
Thank you for your inputs, I appreciate your kind words, and I am glad you have joined us. I'm feel'n you, I'm watch'n, good stuff!!



SWORD-
iontruo2--->received, hear you, back later, peace brother.

11/12/2005 11:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

iontru02, that would be da SunKing's pro.found.ness

not Blasted, T'is SunKing!
You said: And I feel the truth of this in that what, truly, will change mankind in our current mindset or state of consciousness. Same train of thought as I had the other day that even the 2nd Coming, where it to occur, would not be believed. And along the same lines of thought that many here have expressed the past few days discussing 'disclosure'. We are vastly jaded, our minds corrupted by mass-targeted lies and psy-ops campaigns, etc. Probably the worst result of my many years of study and seeking is that I have no idea what to believe in...except the ideas that Iontru02 and Tzemt express so well...that in the final analysis, it is the state of the inner being that matters (help me here, ion!).

But even THAT oft times leave with pondering "Is that it?"

11/12/2005 06:41:27 PM


iontruo2--->As we come to see that we are "vastly jaded, our minds corrupted ", we at some point make the realization that we are observing it, or that.
In that, we are seeing something that appears to be occurring before us.. That occurring, is obstructing but not necessarily binding. So when witnessed to be merely an activity running pretty much unto itself, we become conscious to its repitition. It does not persist in the light of awareness.
"vastly jaded, our minds corrupted" is a great road sign to the inherent mechanism of doubt, question manifesting from root fear, transcending it altogether becomes knowable in its visibility.

"Is that it?"? you had said.
The question itself, the very question at impulse, that, huh?, whats that?, doubt?, don't know.
Thus, that faltering of Ego self's receptivity, helps reveal what IS.
What IS, always already the case, the source basic state of it all, inherent prior joyful awareness in consciousness, unfiltered and misread, not delayed in perceptions of narcisisus. Yes this is us all in humanity's reflective self gazing.
Present Reality eyes wide open with heart, is a living process steeped in wonderment and intermeshed synchronicities of bewildering appropriateness. Awe struct moments, abound, corrective realignments and healings just occur and paths steer true. This is the golden tangable. No longer self-emotionally stuck on, personal conditions, one moves more into subjective service of an outpouring that never empties, and with "awakening", at times, frustratingly, never tires.

In no dilemma, no doubt,
it became the problem of no problem,
but that will pass too.
and still many things arose to know,so well,
when I got out of the way. :)

11/12/2005 11:03:03 PM

But even THAT oft times leave with pondering "Is that it?"

11/12/2005 06:41:27 PM

11/12/2005 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saturday, November 12, 2005 (Additional)
HHMSS
Sword

You folks are on a roll today.
Without further ah-doo – I ramble thus more… …


jasgrave333 said...
Sword, do I get an honorary, lambskin apron?

Sword:
Ahhhh, no.

jasgrave333 said...
…it's the rivalry between the lodges that first peeked my interest.
They don't work in unison, although each has a stated goal of TRUTH seeking, faith and charity...

Sword:
It’s truly NOT a riviraly between lodegs – it’s a rivialry between generations of those lodges. Some of my very first posts touched on that.
They work in unison much like congress today. Sometimes they agree sometimes they do not. No system of governing is truly perfect – none.

jasgrave333 said...
…meaning for all the AGAPE and alteristic intentions, the 'search' for the TRULY enlightened was the goal of the MASONIC origins right?

Sword:
No.
The goal of Masonic origins was expectance of the truth. What truth?
That we where born as slaves to another race of humanoids. (The Epic of Gilgamesh and the Holy Bibles Genesis are very similar for a reason!) The created labor for the remnants of a race that was desperately trying to get out of a solar system that THEY knew was going to have a lot of trouble in the future. Where is, there was celestial balance, those golden age years are gone – a rouge “star”(planet) continues to mess things up. Its demise, and the outcome of that demise, has been known for an extremely long time.
Masonic culture is as old as the human race. Even in the extreme olden times, in the beginnings of human culture on this planet – men knew the truth.
Men of this enlightened faith had to muster the intestinal fortitude to get up and go to work anyway, bearing that truth. They new that countless generation after them they seed would have the chance to escape there foretold doom. They needed to feel that what they where doing meant something and, that in the end – Faith, Hope, and Charity would see that their seed would survive.
Considering human history, Masonic culture is very, very old. The true history and origins of the Masons is a wonderful tale of stubborn determination. It’s a glorious thing to read how their faith kept them together – KNOWING – that one day they would shed the yoke of there masters and then through there own actions escape there own doom. Putting the sum of it all together adds up to where we are now – preparing for something that my faith has know is coming for countless ages.

jasgrave333 said...
http://strange-spot-next-to-sun-18th-july-05.blogspot.com/
If you stare at it long enough, your eyes will cross... but truly, that's what I see, A pyramid and THREE pillars...

Sword:
Interesting that you would come to such a conclusion regarding that image. Such a symbolic gesture I would take it – while at the same time I question your motives considering the things you have said of our faith.


Jman95 said...
While I have a very clear picture of what sword has pointed out, one has to take into concideration that this is a blogg, and at least in this case there is no way to verify someones identity here, much less what some claim may happen.

Sword:
Prove identities? Would you card Jesus for a six pack?

Jman95 said...
This again brings to my mind, Von Brauns claim that we would use the excuse of a impending astroid hit to justify a massive increase in military spending.

Sword:
Can you sight a source for that?
A web link, or a page in a book would be fascinating for me to reply to.
I would like to point out that Von Braun was a “captured” scientist. Why would WE, of the ALL, give him “true” information?

Jman95 said...
I'm not calling Sword a liar, I just feel that we should look at this angle as well, and something else that I've touched on before, we've focused so much on possible armeggedon, that we haven't even looked at the Physics involved here.

Sword:
This is the point where I say:
Prove me right.
Prove me wrong.
I would LOVE to hear your take on the physics! :-)


Wayne:
So the 2012 date is rough because they are unable to really calculate the speed of the thing. Hmm, they can calculate trajectory or orbital information from a few sitings, why is this one so difficult?

Sword:
We can see the electromagnetic forces of this debris as it hurls itself back into the solar system – as mentioned in Rich’s previous articles regarding HD energy and the effects of all of the celestial bodies in the solar system.
Imagine standing on a road, you can hear a car coming, you can see the wind play out across the brush, yet, you can’t see it just yet. Now, calculate its speed.
It’s difficult to predict “The star of crossing’s” speed do to the fact that this is a declining orbit. The elliptical swings are getting more and more extreme with each and every pass as it gets closer and closer to sun. You need to add into the equation the fact that the most recent passes have broken this planetary body into debris. You can personally imagine throwing a rock with your hand, it goes pretty far – now try throwing a handful of gravel…? Quite different is it not?
This is why I say that 2012 is a rough date for its return.

Wayne:
Sword, what is the planned outcome?

Sword:
Survival.
I don’t think you folks understand the ramifications of it all. Where going to gain mass on this planet – so much mass in fact that we might even be able to feel a difference in the overall gravity of the planet. Absorbing that much mass is going to split the holy mother at the seems. If we don’t do anything at all our chances are slim to none for a successful recovery. This is why our mission – softening the blow – is so VITAL.

Wayne:
Also, why are chemtrails irrelevent to anything that is going on? I realize they won't help in any way against the incoming asteroid problem, but why are the trails there?

Sword:
I see a lot of chem-trails in my home state during periods of high pollution. Would you have the similar experience as I?
I say stop worrying about the chem-trails. Its organic and it eats carbon monoxide – and if you will not believe that then – well – I don’t know what to tell you.



blasted said...
I admire and applaud your devotion to task. Even envious in a strange sorta way.

Sword:
You won’t envy us when you see what we have to do with our asses hanging into the void trying to push rocks like tech-no sumo wrestlers into the sun – all the while using conventional and un-conventional weapons to stop us from getting squashed ourselves.
I just hope these new high mobility space suits their working on have a really good diaper in them.


blasted said...
The planet was basically torn apart last passage. all that's left is the rubble.
Search prior posts/blogs's for sword posts. he pretty much spells it all out.
I am actually trying to isolate/put together all of the 'pertinent' sword posts/responses for those who are inclined..

Sword:
Oh, Geeezzz…

blasted said...
not real far yet, but gettin there. somewhere's a few blogs back he mentioned it making for a good book.. hope he does, too. thought it would be cool to have an original transcript so to speak.
hmm.. sword and the stones.. :D

Sword:
A word doc would be fine. No need to re-post.
Sunking could post it as a D/L–able file on this “dry-dock” site.


Biological_Unit said...
There is NO debris coming. NOTHING is going to happen!!
No observations of this debris exists.

Sword:
Really?
They got this great book out there – its got a lot of truth in it. Here is some snips you might find interesting:

Matthew 2:2
Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Matthew 2:7
Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared.
(“Wise men” where born and raised astronomers and would know by celestial observations of the star/planets return…)

Matthew 2:9
When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.
(Key words – went before them – what kind of “star” rises in the east and goes west before a group of astronomers as they travel from Babylon, west to Jerusalem? Why a planet with a elliptical orbit of course!)

There’s you observation Biological_Unit.
But don’t take my words for it – perhaps my brother, Jesus, can be more persuasive:

Matthew 24
27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
(Coverage WILL BE COMPLETE)

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
(Carcase = Carcass = the remnants of earth – whole but beaten – my translation… …)

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
(After initial impact – dust fills the atmosphere, and still more asteroids come)

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


All biblical references come from the King James Version of the Holy Bible.
It can be found on the internet here:
http://www.biblegateway.com/

In my home state I can see both Mars and Venus, not to mention the waning and waxing moon – spliting the holy heaven sight into perfect thirds… Sigh…

Release me Holy Father from my sins that chain me to this firmament - let me bear your words into the heavens so that I may serve my people and show them what the teachings of your grave can do for the spirit of your seed.
Amen.

Sword

11/12/2005 11:32:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

KrazyBy4Kids said...
The media has been covering the current meteor shower and trying to tell us that this is normal. There is always a meteor shower at this time of year. I do not recall meteors making it through the atmosphere in previous years. We are being fed the disinfo to keep us unaware.


I read on space.com, that these meteors are part of the Taurid meteor shower. Here's the link...

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/051103_taurid_fireballs.html ...


crypt0 said
"...in Star Trek : The Next Generation, there was a ship run by an all-Downs Syndrome crew : does anyone know what the name of their ship was?"

It was the Pakled ship, "Mondor", from "Samaritan Snare", in season 2...

Bubba hyde, I sent you another email with some incredible trail pix...

Ssl4000g, the chemtrail guys were busy today over here. I guess it's because I'm not terribly far away from Andrews AFB that I get a lot of chemtrail activity...

That's all for now...

John

11/12/2005 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sword said...
Jman95 said...
This again brings to my mind, Von Brauns claim that we would use the excuse of a impending astroid hit to justify a massive increase in military spending.

Sword:
Can you sight a source for that?
A web link, or a page in a book would be fascinating for me to reply to.
I would like to point out that Von Braun was a “captured” scientist. Why would WE, of the ALL, give him “true” information

Sword, I'd be fascinated to read your take on it as well!!

Here's a couple:

Testimony of Dr Carol Rosin
December 2000
From Duncan Roads
nexusmagazine@optusnet.com.au
http://www.mayanmajix.com/art742.html

--------------------------------

Eye-opening interview with Carol Rosin about the late Werner von Braun
German Scientist Werner von Braun Anticipated
Terrorists, Asteroids and ETs on American "Enemy's List"
© 2004 by Linda Moulton Howe
http://earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=734&category=Science%20

11/12/2005 11:58:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Another theory on dec. 10th: The final part of "A Moon With A View"

11/13/2005 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sword says:
John finally nails soemthing down he can chew on:

John said...
Another theory on dec. 10th: The final part of "A Moon With A View"

Sword

11/13/2005 12:08:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Anonymous said...
Sword says:
John finally nails soemthing down he can chew on


What'd you mean by that?

11/13/2005 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interestingly.. tight with the UN.

Dr. CAROL ROSIN, President/Chair of the Board

Dr. Rosin, an award winning educator, author, a leading aerospace executive, a space and missile defense consultant, founder of ISCOS in ‘83, in consultative status with UN-ECOSOC… now ICIS.

11/13/2005 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oops..

link: http://www.peaceinspace.com/ab_board.shtml

11/13/2005 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Testimony of Dr Carol Rosin
December 2000
From Duncan Roads
nexusmagazine@optusnet.com.au
http://www.mayanmajix.com/art742.html

Eye-opening interview with Carol Rosin about the late Werner von Braun
German Scientist Werner von Braun Anticipated
Terrorists, Asteroids and ETs on American "Enemy's List"
© 2004 by Linda Moulton Howe
http://earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=734&category=Science%20

Sword says:
Anything coming from Nexus Magazine, I can’t really call testimony. I have yet to read the article complete – I have skimmed it. I had hoped for something more creditable… …

The second source listed needs a password/login – I’m not going to that much trouble for a rehash of the first article mentioned.

Is this the ONLY reference we have regarding this Von Braun disclosure?

Sword

11/13/2005 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sword says:
>Anything coming from Nexus Magazine, I can’t really call testimony. I have yet to read the article complete – I have skimmed it. I had hoped for something more creditable… …
The second source listed needs a password/login – I’m not going to that much trouble for a rehash of the first article mentioned.
Is this the ONLY reference we have regarding this Von Braun disclosure?
Sword
11/13/2005 12:13:20 AM

crap.. password now eh?
I got the whole ting, could post but it's long..

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2005-09,GGGL:en&q=von+braun+disclosure
von braun disclosure
53,500 hits. perusen now...

11/13/2005 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From an article:
Testimony of Dr Carol Rosin
December 2000
From Duncan Roads
nexusmagazine@optusnet.com.au

Dr Carol Rosin:
Another time I called Saddam Hussein when he was lighting his oil fields on fire. My husband was in the kitchen while I was making this phone call. I got a call back from his First Attaché with Saddam Hussein nearby and he asked, "Are you a reporter? Are you an agent?

Why do you want to know?"

I said, "No. I am just a citizen who helped to start the movement to prevent the weaponization of outer space and I have found that a lot of stories that I have been told about weapons systems and the enemies are not true. I wanted to find out what would satisfy Saddam Hussein so he would stop making these oil fields catch fire and stop antagonizing people." He said, "Well, nobody has ever asked him that question, what he wants."

Sword:
What?
Is this considered a “serious” article?
I mean really.
She picked up the phone and dialed ol’ Saddam up on the telie’?
PLEASE!
You’re a third world dictator laying fire to a country your leaving after invading and you have time for a phone call from a resigned weapon systems industry worker?
HA!

You guys are going to half to get a more reputable reference than: http://www.mayanmajix.com before I can make serious commentary on Wernher Von Braun “revelations”… …
(I can't belive you guys felt this was "solid"... ...its solid like fresh poo...)

Sword

11/13/2005 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here ya go Sword....

http://www.nancyredstar.com/wmd/Anti_Satellite.htm - Carol Rosin interview.

11/13/2005 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. John said...
Interesting. Why CO? What's the mechanism for this reaction?

Sword:
Organic, like I said.
Carbon Monoxide – is the bad car belching vapor right? Why do I want to say Carbon Dioxide as well?
Similar to the new, tried and tested product – “Free-breeze” (? Spelling?) – it attaches itself to the molecule and neutralizes it into something else. That something else, is some sort of other carbon that falls harmlessly to the ground. This is why I comment earily regarding birds falling out of trees before – in case they didn’t mix the recipe right.
It’s (your chem’s in the chem trail’s) basically a bonding agent of some type.

I can’t comment on it anymore because quite honestly – it’s not my area of expertise or responsibility. I’m giving you part of the summary paragraph of a extensive research paper I requested a long time ago (in a galaxy far, far away)…

Sword

11/13/2005 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About Dr. Carol Rosin
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZCa.htm


This one looks excellent. The von braun stuff is about 1/4 down da page.

DISCLOSURE PROJECT BRIEFING DOCUMENT
Prepared for: Members of the Press Members of United States Government Members of the US Scientific Community
Written and Compiled by: Steven M. Greer, M.D., Director and Theodore C. Loder III, Ph.D.
April, 2001

http://galactic5.no-ip.com/radio/greer/disclosure1.html

11/13/2005 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sword said..
You guys are going to half to get a more reputable reference than: http://www.mayanmajix.com before I can make serious commentary on Wernher Von Braun “revelations”… …
(I can't belive you guys felt this was "solid"... ...its solid like fresh poo...)

blasted says:
you guys=me. I provided the links. Never said solid either. dont be so mortified.
mixed bag, clues 'n shit. like all this stuff. there's a little shit in all of us.

Sword said...
A web link, or a page in a book would be fascinating for me to reply to.

fascinating..

11/13/2005 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blasted...
Relax already!
:-)

Sword

11/13/2005 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yup. twistin' one up right now.

:8}

11/13/2005 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. John said...
Then why comment at all to begin with?

You asked - and I replied...
So stick it Dr. Rude geek asshole!
:-X

Sword

11/13/2005 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sword,
Relax already!


I recall it as if it were yesterday.

11/13/2005 01:43:00 AM  
Blogger no1here said...

Tornadoes Touch Down In Central Iowa - kills 1.

So, does this mean we move from weather controlled hurricanes to tornadoes?

http://www.kcci.com/news/5312611/detail.html#tornado1112

Scary video of the tornado caught on film, too.

~Greg

11/13/2005 02:54:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

This link to a "whistleblower" in the chemtrails biz is very disturbing. It sort of reminds me of Sword (if that really is your Name) in that the "blower" really believes chemtrails are necessary. The reasoning is podgey but then, He "suicided" so who knows.


http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/shieldproject.html

11/13/2005 03:09:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

Amen.

Ammon. Name Dropper!
In the Spirit of Apollo/Dionysus I can assure you no cloud of debris exists.

11/13/2005 03:40:00 AM  
Blogger coqui said...

Hey Skipper,
Helluva experiment you launched! Its growin all kindza new legs!
Its really awesome, dontcha think? Thanks !
This wave we're riding definitely runs on HD power !
uni

11/13/2005 04:11:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

The number of links including Margaret Mead, to population reduction, control or oblivion is shocking. I pointed out that every single human being on this earth could be moved to Texas and they would all have 1,000 sq. feet to occupy. How is it we are facing global eradication of the human species because the Earth is overcrowded? What is the budget worldwide for destroying each other? I will take 10 per cent of that and save each and everyone.


http://eastsouthwestandnorth.blogspot.com/

11/13/2005 04:45:00 AM  
Blogger coqui said...

Sword,
I saw Carol Rosin on the disclosure project dvd. She said Werner told her about the various space weaponization scams he predicted would be trotted out. Cold war, Ruskie nukes, Terrorists, Asteroids, and then, Fake Aliens. My gut felt OK with Rosin's presentation. Of course that's cuz she exalted Peace & Love, and my gut (heart, actually) falls for that line every time. BTW, Rosin quoted Werner as saying "universes" (plural).
Interviews, videos, whatever. What else do we have other than Rosin's word that Werner said such & such?
Rosin interviews, videos, whatever.... In a world of scams within scams, what's implausible? Asteroid stories are a dime a dozen. Doesn't mean yours is bogus. What did the Maya know? The Hopi? Hendrix?
My money is on T'zemt's horse, Shikhara (thanks Dame Edna, for that one. I miss her. Where is Edna? And where is Books for that matter? She said she'd be back after she finished sewing).
In my really big picture, this is just another little, albeit significant, drama on a beautiful little tormented planet in a backwater corner of the Milky Way. But hey, I'm a sucker for a good drama, especially this one, which I can believe in. But as several shipmates have affirmed, drama pales beside the real show, found within. I mean, we're all gonna recycle anyway. Having said that, I'd like to add that it is an honor and a privilege serving with all of you (that's hokey, hokey) Rather, I do not mean to dis the cosmic importance of what is unfolding over here in our little corner of the universe. Its not every lifetime one gets to participate in a planetary shift, unless you place every lifetime at planetary shifts. (but then, living out of a suitcase case can get old.) Its just a blast to be amongst the players here and wherever they are, for the show. Maybe that's it. Its a show, showtime. We all came here to write the screenplay and act the parts in our own show. And its a doozie this time. To put it another way, what's unfolding on our planet is a really important Big Deal,... But if I become a shark's breakfast tomorrow morning, I'm back on the other side, and that Big Deal changes in perspective.
Speaking of T'zemt's horse, I think (for example) the big reason they had to squash psychedelics is that peace and love were breaking out, and we canna have that, now can we? (Listen up, John) Psychedelics are a shortcut to the road to the Shikhara, and places like it. Point being that then, or today, if we all accessed the Shikhara, and united there, the con-test would be moot. Game over, highest consciousness rules. But, apparently that's not what we billions are up to, just now.
uni
ps Sword, didn't meant to bore you with my drifting after the Rosin part. Its late. I'm nodding off.

11/13/2005 05:47:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

Sword:
We can see the electromagnetic forces of this debris as it hurls itself back into the solar system – as mentioned in Rich’s previous articles regarding HD energy and the effects of all of the celestial bodies in the solar system.
Imagine standing on a road, you can hear a car coming, you can see the wind play out across the brush, yet, you can’t see it just yet. Now, calculate its speed.
It’s difficult to predict “The star of crossing’s” speed do to the fact that this is a declining orbit. The elliptical swings are getting more and more extreme with each and every pass as it gets closer and closer to sun. You need to add into the equation the fact that the most recent passes have broken this planetary body into debris. You can personally imagine throwing a rock with your hand, it goes pretty far – now try throwing a handful of gravel…? Quite different is it not?
This is why I say that 2012 is a rough date for its return.

Wayne

IOW, a bunch of different sized chunks orbiting themselves and the sun. Kind of like a top that is off balance, so to speak. Gravel, point made.


Sword:
Survival.
I don’t think you folks understand the ramifications of it all. Where going to gain mass on this planet – so much mass in fact that we might even be able to feel a difference in the overall gravity of the planet. Absorbing that much mass is going to split the holy mother at the seems. If we don’t do anything at all our chances are slim to none for a successful recovery. This is why our mission – softening the blow – is so VITAL.

Wayne
We are going to gain the mass from the bombardment we will receive from the now busted up planet of crossing. More mass will make the planet spin faster thereby increasing the gravity, maybe even making the balance of the planet slightly off like the unbalanced spinning top.
If that is the case, and that is what I think you are telling me, then I understand your point about "softening the blow".

On the point of chem trails, besides them being blatantly obvious, at least to me, not knowing the who, what and why was the most annoying. I will be joining the team to see what can be done to help soften the blow of our impending problem. Thanks for clearing it up sword. :)

Wayne

11/13/2005 08:33:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Hi guys...

Just took some awesome chemtrail pix, and sent them to bubba...

Ssl4000g, anything haarp can make in the sky, I've got. Chemtrails, ripples, holes, you name it. How's the sky look there?...

That's all for now...

John

11/13/2005 08:48:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

john,
Lots of wispy clouds, all sizes coming from SW. They look as though a ripple effect has touched them.

W

11/13/2005 08:53:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

crypt0 said

"Maybe society is crumbling because, more often than not, scientifically astute usually means political gullability."


I don't understand this statement.

11/13/2005 09:15:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Oh, bubba, you should be getting an email with more chemtrail pix from me any time now...

John

11/13/2005 09:16:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Has anyone else noticed that the number of new Cassini pictures has dropped recently? Or is it just me?

11/13/2005 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sword said "I would like to point out that Von Braun was a “captured” scientist. Why would WE, of the ALL, give him “true” information?"

Do you or any other thinking person fail to see that the U.S., via Operation Paperclip, was ultimately the loser in the battle against Nazism? So eager we were to learn from these 'captured' individuals, that we absorbed not only their techniques, but their mindset...the consciousness.

Think on how America has changed since WWII (Hell, think on the fact that over 60 years later, we still see news articles about the Nazis!). When I first saw the picture of Evian Gonzalez, the little Cuban boy, face to face with a sturmtrooper with rifle leveled, my impression was "THIS is not America!". From out intelligence services to our police forces, the influence of the Nazis has been steady and growing stronger, in our policies and procedures and in the minds of the people in those ranks. And insidiously enough, they are too blind to realize it.

In the end, who was really 'captured'?

"Hiel, Everybody!" - David Nivens, Guns of Navaronne

11/13/2005 10:00:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Ok...

11/13/2005 10:16:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Guys, check this out...

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/ap_051113_probe_lost.html

11/13/2005 10:23:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

I just saw that I got post 200 YAY!

11/13/2005 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Everyone,
I just took some photos of the clouds outside and sent them to Unipax !
Gotta love the clouds outside today, they seem to be everywhere !
Is it just me, or has anyone noticed that Cassini is really far away ?
Well, gotta go think up a new reason for my next post.

11/13/2005 10:27:00 AM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Blasted, hello

My apologies, on that mis-name reference to you. As well to Sir Sunking. You both were posting great stuff and it was almost like stereo to me. I glitched in response.
Again props to you both for your valued thoughts.


Crypto, hello

O.k. now you really have me thinking. Thats some quality depth, I will have to ponder for a while. Big blank from me on it, so thanks for your view, I will reread as well. Cheers.

11/13/2005 10:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi, ion. tnx.

Crypto,
Yes, great stuff.

Have you ever considered that China might be the Older World Order? Just a thought!

11/13/2005 11:02:00 AM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

WOW, catchin up took time, u is ALL HERE :)

before I get going on Bashing Bush's and Freemasonary;

Some three news:

1 person killed
3 tornadoes touch down on the...
13th 11 2005

13112005

numerological storms...

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

ok Onto Stone Munchers...

Sword, your Freemasonic fatith is going the same way as Dodo's...

Don't you get it, NO MORE ORGANISED RELIGION!!!

INLCUDING YOUR NEFARIOUS F*CKED UP RELIGION...

It sounds harsh sword, but that's why you are ONLY HALF AWAKE...

WAKEY WAKEY...

Your 33rd degree Nazi Bush faceplayer, that is supposed to represent people, is tarring all your 'good' names with a sh!tty brush...

Your religion is fired!!!

However your a cool fella, even if I see a better future than your unit does... or even your disfunctional evil religion.

Evil? Yes, lies, Uni was right, disinformation, and a screwed up agenda, put down ya tinkering tools while you got a chance and don't get caught with the mark of the wild beast (6 6 6 or 33 33 33) marked on ya...

Rememeber Sword, in biblical times, the unfaithful priests, had leprosy spring up in the forehead or the hands going white as snow...

Biblical times are 'a' descending, with Riots, spilling over and peace being removed from province after town...

When will you see that you ARE BEING MISLED BY YOUR TOPS?

Why are you here? Do you see this TEM-PLE as more worthy than your own?

I'm curious sword, because your faith is guilty OF NOT TEACHING THE PEOPLE AS IS COMMANDED IN THE BIBLE.

Secrecy, what secrecy? WHY SECRECY?

This blog is open and a forum to FIND TRUTH...

Was your unit responsible for that?

what about the 653,000 Americans that have died, fighting for LIES?

OIL for energy is total F*CKING BULL SH!T!!!

Sword you 'RELIGION' IS tainted and is defunct, you are ALL Tarnished by the BUSH and EVIL OIL LIES!!!

still I rant...

And if you are so f*cking fearless, put your picture in a blog and write a good mission statement... Why all the God Dammed secrecy?

THE LIGHT of TRUTH is NOT HIDDEN UNDER A BASKET...

it's to be seen by ALL, that's what the light of the WORD IS!

yeah sure, the TRUTH HURTS, but that's the way it is going to be, it's going to get a lot more HD too!

How many more here, on this blog will admit to being freemasons?

Or unfree masons if you want?

My name, picture, address, email, msn, yahoo, blog are all attached to my name, sword, where is yours?

Why hide? you aint gotta much time left bro, tek your chances or make a choice...

WHY ARE YOU ALL SO SH!T SCARED OF SHOWING WHO YOU ARE?

sigh... grrrrrrrrrrr

darn windy here (again) BRB, gone surfin...

PS great input ALL, I'm gonna be catchin up, when it gets dark or da wind relents here :)

11/13/2005 12:22:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

4got to mention;

2:30
4:30
7:30

Storms touched down

right BRB

11/13/2005 12:33:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Jas, that was harsh man. You must care a lot about sword to be that rough.

You are all ranting about the Masons, yet the ranting cannot change anything. There is alot of energy (negative) being expended...why is that? We are being pushed away from something, what is it?
Uni, a little help please? I can feel it, but cannot pinpoint it.

11/13/2005 12:48:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

I must go and recenter myself. Will check back later to see if mood change occurs. Infighting accomplishes NOTHING. Do not lose sight of our objective.

Sunking, Is there any response from RCH yet? Is anyone able to get into the SHIP and see if he has shown up? My DSL and IE cannot withstand the volume there.

BTW my code is WEGYZ = we guys UNITY is the KEY

11/13/2005 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Krazy,

Sometimes through conflict, consensus and harmony results (i.e. "makin' up is fun to do"...lol!)

No word from esteemed Skipper. I have checked in to the SHIP, nothing there has been added except one good comment from rlm, who has since transferred to Drydock, and some typical mindless pap from anonymous A-Hs. And one needlessly cruel anti-RCH comment.

One thing for all to keep in mind, no matter what we think or say here, we are now all part of a "family"...if one of us were to go, the place would be a little duller. If we all agreed with each other, we'd soon be bored!

As we used to say..."Peace, Love, Dope"! :)

11/13/2005 01:13:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

o.k. darth jasgrave333, the flame'n lightsabre is overload'n.
Your ambassador says "what will be will be, kay sar ra sar ra" kareoke favourite.
This society can't even plan 20 years ahead let alone 1000 to 2000. So, perhaps some foolish ego's tripped up more than a few times along the way, thats the human folly of dabbling in Divine affairs, we miss the mark time and time again in our construct.
Shame Blame and Guilt, serves what? Anger will be the seed of a festering sore, that doesn't heal well. Even an "end time" could not even be called a karmic inconvenience, more like a big class graduation day. O.k. maybe exams and graduation all at the same time!! So if there is gonna be a show, I'm thankful for my spectacular timing, to be here now. More like Stellar timing!! I even have my lawn chairs ready, now I just need a glass of Merlot and maybe a few friends to chill and catch the fireworks with a spiritual smile!
All will be Well.
Too much have I seen to know that the adversity of today is merely the schooling for the graduation of tomorrow. We don't grow from a position of "comfort", so I was comfortable in knowing that these growing pains amount to something much more grand than floundering around down here hoping some of this ball of confusion makes sense and indulging in endless trivial paths of personal gratification and self fullfilment.
I've got my flying carpet ready and welcome whatever life wants " to throw at me"! oops dark pun! lol :)


hey hey, turn down that 150watt flame'n lightsabre!! Too hot, too bright, its o.k. all will be right!!

11/13/2005 01:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sword says:

Attitudes regarding my faith will change immensely and rather soon as far as history and time are concerned.
I’ll ignore the negative, ignorant rants and hope for something more positive, like questions, instead of false accusations.
:-)
:-x

Sword

11/13/2005 02:06:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

krazy,
Not sure, but if we are being pushed away from something, that something could for sure be focus. What were we focusing on? (I like your 'little friend', btw)
cryps,
great posts. Stones, maps, stars. Unwavering. Love the masonic history, thanx.
sunking,
Rog on the Von Braun analysis.
jas, ion,
;-)
WE ROCK! What's next? Where to focus? Where's Robert, Scarlet, Brooks & Books? Who else is away?
Gotta go for about 10 hours
uni

11/13/2005 02:16:00 PM  
Blogger coqui said...

Sword,
Crypto mentioned something like 'no women' in your faith. That can't be so. What is truth re status of women there, please?
uni

11/13/2005 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Killer Asteriods From Spaaaaaaaace - First Blood!

11/13/2005 02:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

unipax said...
Crypto mentioned something like 'no women' in your faith. That can't be so. What is truth re status of women there, please?

Sword:
I definitely wouldn’t take Crypto as anyone who could give you the true history of anything Masonic. He is obviously reading outsider books – with that being said his comments are making him look very ignorant to that topic - Masonry.

Lodges outside of mine have female Masons, they are counterpart to the man, an important element to the home, and have different responsibilities. The male and female share the responsibilities of the home, yet those responsibilities are separate, yet neither are more important than the other, at least, in my lodge this is so. I perhaps give more freedom to the female counterparts by allowing them to fight in combat right along side the men.

Sword

11/13/2005 02:59:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

Krazyby, it's like this, since I was born in the 70's UK, the FREEMASONS have been f*cking with my life.

My father was a Fire Officer, and through the CORRUPTED RANKS, those leaders, where 'coerced' to join the MASONIC ranks, my father would not.

Hence forth received no end of sh!t at the end of those sh!ty w*nkers...

So I've more than an Ax to grind with all the Screw ball stone chippers...

Sword knows it's not aimed at him, but all the corrupted Mason's I've ever known and met and had a hand in screwing up mi life...

but having broken free, I see the bigger picture, but I'm letting Sword, know that his religion, no more worthy!!!

NO MORE ORGANISED RELIGION - WORD!!!

so that leaves everyone following the lie in a bit of a mess...

Remember Cane and Able were simply asked by THE GOD To present a gift that they felt GOD WOULD LIKE...

That means EACH OF US TODAY, ARE OFFERING A GIFT RIGHT NOW!!!

is it the same stupid gift that the pope is offering?

all Religions are guilty of not telling the TRUTH!!!

as are any NASA scientists that knew the TRUTH and are knowing that their data is being misused!!!

No one is innocent if connected with the LIEING SYSTEM!!!

But you know what, Sword gives good input, I'm cool with dat, he knows that...

Just having mi rants, puts down in writing the feelings of mi heart...

The feelings since I was a kid...

And believe If THE SMIRKING CHIMP BUSH CAME ONLINE, I WOULD RELISH THE CHANCE TO SHOW HOW RETARDED HIS MENTALITY IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IonTru02, mi holy priest, bro, yep, Darth Jas is onna da rampage, cooling out, the system is so corrupted, that the only way forward is to start ASAP, telling the TRUTH...

TRUTH will set you FREE!!!

SunKing, done know, :) if we all agreed it would be a boring place, look at Paul and Barnabas in the bible, Paul had a SHARP, burst of anger with his bro, but they were tight... like spiritual, that's what makes life so interesting, the relationships, the learning, the sharpening of ones face against another (the debates that spark questions and research)...

So much more to add, but mi gonna catch up on mi rum, and cool from da massive wave action today...

it was tooo freaking good, da breaks 7 feet, riding down with sharp carves at da bottoms, and some big jumps at da tops... actually da big jumps left me prayin again, too high... da wind was IMENSE... someone might be in for another HAARPICANE...

11/13/2005 04:13:00 PM  
Blogger jasgrave333 said...

Strong Winds Shut Washington Monument
WJLA - Nov 11, 2005
Washington DC (AP) - The Washington Monument is no place to be on a windy day. The National Park Service had to close the 555-foot obelisk for about three hours Thursday because the high winds made it sway slightly. ...
Strong Winds Close Washington Monument NBC 4.com


HA HA HA

11/13/2005 05:11:00 PM  
Blogger KrazyBy4Kids said...

Jas, Thank you for explaining. Perhaps my maternal instincts kick in a bit too quickly. My own little burden to bear, I am an only child and just cannot fathom the sibling rivalry and love/hate relationship I see played out by my 4 children. Discourse I can handle until we get to name calling. I will strive to keep out of the squabbles as I see that they are necessary to the open communication we share here.
BTW, I shore do envy yer locale. Will dream of joinin ya fer a toke, a joke and a rum n coke tonight...

11/13/2005 05:39:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Krazy..infighting?
we didn't get here in a cohesive mush. We're here to sort the wheat from the chaff. This will be accomplished by concensus but if you won't follow every post like it was "homework" stay home.

John you have "homework". Go to your room.

11/13/2005 06:43:00 PM  

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