11.28.2005

What Conspiracy Theory?


Now that I'm older, I find myself spending more time thinking when I'm in the shower. I've been thinking of what to blog about next, waiting for inspiration to hit me...and it did! At about 3 minutes, 33 seconds into the rinse cycle!

Conspiracy Theory! YESssssssssssssssssssssss!

Crewmember Ericswan mentioned something about us delving into conspiracy theories the other day. And last night I was watching "Banned from the Bible" on The History Channel (THC...hehe). And something I saw on that program stuck in my head: The subtopic being discussed in this segment of the show was the Book of Jubilees, a book that gives somewhat more detail to the Old Testament Book of Genesis, and pulls in some details from another enigma, the Book of Enoch with it's rich account of the Watchers and Giants in the land. Interesting stuff...to me and many of us here, though not seemingly related to space or science.

If you're a regular viewer of THC, you know that they drag out many of the same 'experts' for a given genre' of program. Many on this program have been in the programs on Decoding DaVinci or the Holy Grail. The usual suspects/debunkers were present here as well. But one expert's performance came to mind whilst in the shower... not so much what he said ("...Well, *chuckle* *chuckle*, it's clear why this was not included into the Biblical Canon *yuk* *yuk*...") but the body language and smirking involved, none of which made it clear why this book had not passed the biblical censor. And that was it? What's "clear" about this? Nothing, dammit!!!

This was what stuck in my mind...that this performance was typical of how conspiracy theories are 'explained' away by mass media... without anything ever being explained. And certainly not to my satisfaction especially given the gravity of the subject. C'mon! We're talking about the Bible here!!! People have died, been tortured and defamed because of the interpretations and exhortations listed in this work. which was compiled by men who needed to ensure the right doctrine was being published so as to ensure stability for those in power ! We're not just talking Area 51 or Free Energy or ETs or Who Killed JFK! It's the freaking BIBLE and effects human lives on a daily basis! Yet all it takes is a smirking no-name Doctor of Religion with the 'right' credentials to supposedly 'debunk' the issue for the viewing public? Nothing enrages me more.

Being an avid student of several conspiracy theories, there is another thing I hate. There are countless numbskulls who think it the height of wit to admonish anyone with a conspiracy theory that cannot be 'easily' debunked to "'go put on your aluminum foil hat". Well, on cool thing about an aluminum foil hat, is that it can be re-worked into a P-SHOD (Personal ShitHook of Death), used with impunity, then (after some cleansing) worked back into the hat shape, effectively and conspiratorily hiding the evidence of the brutal reaming of said numbskull!

Human beings have conspired together since time immemorial...Whether it's to get the best haunch of gazelle or to affect a coup d' etat for control of a superpower nation, it has happened and will continue to happen until "the next Big Bang", to quote Crypt0. Robert Heinlein (or maybe his fictional character Lazarus Long) said "Never underestimate the value of human stupidity". I would add to that ignorance, for as long as humans remain stupid or ignorant and fail to ask the right questions and demand the answers (be it in a public forum, or at the point of the sword), other humans will be able to realize success and profit and gain from all manner of conspiracy. Only the blind fail to see it happening around us daily, and on such a grand scale! Alas, there are so many blind among us.

The members of this 'crewe' do, and should, pride ourselves as being individuals who work to break the bonds of ignorance, to cast aside conventional wisdom when it is no longer wisdom, to "'stand on the shoulders of giants" who have gone before us and who stand beside us today ... to be able to see clearer and farther, the better to ask the 'right' questions and demand answers and accountability... all in the age-old quest for Truth!

Brrrrr...this water's getting cold and...HEY! WHERE'D IT GO?!?

I better get outta here!

528 Comments:

Blogger SSL4000G said...

For once I can get the first post. loking forward to the new post. Gonna read now.

11/28/2005 12:38:00 PM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

This time I get to be first! To the new blog, I say, here, here! I get so tired of the smirking of the media. It isn't limited to self proclaimed experts on The History Channel, it can be as close and often more likely to come from your local media. Rare has been the coverage of a story that falls into the realm of conspiracy theory that is treated with any respect. Oh, wait a minute. Did I say rare? As I continue to think back, I cannot think of any media coverage in the mainstream that didn't treat this kind of subject matter without a wink and nod to go with the big smirk.

The mission, if we choose to accept it, is to find a way to counter those who want us to get out our tinfoil hats with a response that is intelligent without becoming overly emotional. But it's a bit like tilting at windmills, but if the windmill is the target...

11/28/2005 12:40:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

I got post #2, although, to quote "Top Gun"...

"Remember, second place is first loser..."

11/28/2005 12:40:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

oops, i guess it was #3

11/28/2005 12:41:00 PM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

Well, so much for thinking I'd be first. LOL!

11/28/2005 12:41:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

starshipconstellation said...
Well, so much for thinking I'd be first. LOL!


StarshipC,
You're the first to READ the new blog, then post. Thanks! :)

Wayne cheated, scooping up #1 THEN reading the blog! :( Shameless SOB! (lol)

11/28/2005 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

Speaking of conspiracy theories, I'm starting to wonder if the original TEM site should be the subject of its own conspiracy theory. The linking to JAXA and getting the Japanese language site makes me wonder if RCH wants someone to independently translate the text to do an end run around the kind of "editing" that would obscure the real data. Anyone know Japanese or know of a good translation site?

The original Captain's Blog seems to go further and further down the screen. I wonder if the silence is intended to enhance the mystery? If RCH offered a token apology for the absence would that lessen interest in TEM because many might think that there's nothing new here and not "stay tuned"? That wouldn't work for me, because I keep looking in anyway, but its hard to not keep wondering what's going on over there.

11/28/2005 12:50:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

In case no one saw my last post before coming here...

John said...
I've been looking at the raw Iapetus pics (the ones that show Iapetus as being transparent). I just remembered a famous quote from "2001: A Space Odessey", by Arthur C. Clarke. As David Bowman is looking at the monolith on Iapetus, just before he gets pulled into the "Star Gate", his last transmission is...

"The thing's hollow...it goes on forever, and, oh my God, it's full of stars!"

Just a thought...

Oh, here's something interesting that I didn't know. I was talking to my dad about Masons, and it turns out that my dad's dad and granddad were both Masons...

11/28/2005 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

starshipconstellation said...

"...Anyone know Japanese or know of a good translation site?"

Try this...

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

John

11/28/2005 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Seeking light, John? lol!

Hey, youth...good catch on the "it's full of stars" concept! Bravo.....for a change! ;)

11/28/2005 12:55:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

starshipC,
re: TEM CT

Iontru02, in the last blog comment posts, mentioned something along the same lines...that RCH is trying to communicate something to us. It was very insightful and I recommend you go back and find his post...then let's magnify on it...there may be something to it!

11/28/2005 12:57:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Ok, this is odd...

http://www.space.com/searchforlife/seti_shostak_ufo_050714.html

In the article it says that between 1/3 and 2/3 of the population believes in aliens, and that same group thinks that they're visiting Earth.

My question is this...IF THE MAJORITY OF THE HUMAN RACE BELIEVES THAT WE'RE BEING VISITED BY ALIENS, WHY DOES THE GOVERNMENT STILL KEEP THE TRUTH FROM US???!

John

11/28/2005 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

SunKing said...
Seeking light, John? lol!

Hey, youth...good catch on the "it's full of stars" concept! Bravo.....for a change! ;)

Thanks, but I'm not sure I understand the "Seeking light..." part...

John

11/28/2005 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

The conspiracy of the Bible? What an interesting take on interstellar space. Who are the players?

God
god
Aliens
etc. etc.

How about YOU and ME?
Are we here I mean are we really here?

My best guess is, we are here. Are the aliens here? Is God here?
That all depends on what you think the meaning of "is" is.

11/28/2005 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Also, and I've probably seen the answer before somewhere, but...If (BIG "if"), as RCH says, we're the Martians, how the heck did we end up with basically NO technology?

11/28/2005 01:05:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

sunking said;
Wayne cheated, scooping up #1 THEN reading the blog! :( Shameless SOB! (lol)

11/28/2005 12:45:42 PM

Oooh, you bounder, you cheat! Such resounding scorn for a man who just couldn't resist acting out on some juvenile ambition to be the first in line showing the Smirk-SHOD to all those behind! LOLOL!!!! Sorry sunking, couldn't resist. :)

Onto the topic, the religious establishment has for 1500 plus years told us when, where, how and why to worship their way. They have threatened us with eternal damnation amongst other things. We have been given nothing from the Church (fill in your brand here) that has allowed any type of growth. It affects the spritual as well as any approach we make to science. Just look at the evolution vs. creationist thing going on. The meddling of church in my life has shown me nothing but the same political bs that occurs in the secular world. Even when the best intentioned show their real side, it comes down to business. They debunk any attempts at the truth to protect their business and the profits that go along with it.
Any man is free to choose his own path IMO. But the closed mindedness that almost all theologians of any type display is nothing but a stifling of human growth in any form. They debunk and pull us further from ourselves and any growth we might make. I personally can not believe a word they have to say because the hand of man created the text that they say is the word of God. Just take a look at who Eusebius was and what he was about.

Wayne

11/28/2005 01:13:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

hmmm...John,

- batteries ran out
- used the hi tech sheet metal for shelter
- keepers of the knowledge died while those manly hunters took over...dumb, but survivors?


Seeking light...one of the key things a novitiate to Masonry says, or somesuch.

11/28/2005 01:13:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Bingo on Eusibious, Wayne! He played prominent on the THC show last night.

John,
The Church would be one reason for government not formally recognizing Aliens. They fear the loss of revenue and powerbase.

Government also fears what would happen to 'our way of life', cherished as it is. Face it...a giant Alien SHOD lands of the White House Lawn, or the Kremlin, or.....whatever. You gonna go to work the next day? If not, when you going to go back? Guess it depends of what the little green men say?

But Big Bidness cannot control what the LGM would say, and that might eat into profits and production.

What if the LGM say "look, this is the way, the truth and the light...you no longer need your government, live free, love long and prosper" (Catchy, eh?) Well, anybody gooing to contribute to their senator's campaign war chest...or even both to go vote? Hey, these LGMs just might eat into their power base, their rock-star following.

Oh, dere be a whole lotta reasons why da gubmint ain't talkin', youth!

11/28/2005 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger djbarney said...

:-)

Sunking...excellent post.

Giants, "The Nephilim", Watchers, physical and supernatural
beings that all call out for that 'first contact' scenario.

I'm going to try and get a copy of Graham Hancock's new book
"Supernatural: Meetings with the Ancient Teachers of Mankind"

(see http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=25;t=007596 )

The basic premise being that we have been meeting with "Aliens"
for thousands, if not millions of years, whether you count
the Aliens as being physical AND/OR meta-physical (supernatural).

John Mack was in this territory with his book "Passport to the
Cosmos"...that a lot of "Aliens" are actually supernatural
"spirits" if you will...this doe'snt make them any less real.

Which leads me to my current 'satori', insight of the moment:
"Does anyone actually watch Star Trek?". I could swear it all
just dissappears down some brain black-hole and everyone just
carries on as before. DUH! There ARE "alien" nations to contact
out there ON THIS PLANET...but I don't hear of many expeditions.
Who's signing up for my expedition ?

While the blindness goes on around us (as you say Sunking) I
suspect these "Biblical Aliens" are Watching on...so take
a moment and FEEL...your're on Alien TV tonite! ;-)

djbarney

PS Anyone remember the band The Nephilim who hung out in Cowboy
gear and sung about the Bible and Sumerians..mmmmm?

11/28/2005 01:34:00 PM  
Blogger djbarney said...

:-)

Sunking said...

> The Church would be one reason for government not formally recognizing Aliens. > They fear the loss of revenue and powerbase

The Disclosure Project book includes a seemingly enlightened
representative from the Church (the Vatican?)
who was basicly saying "God created the Universe and us
AND Aliens...they're all Gods children...WHAT'S THE PROBLEM ?" (see?).

djbarney

11/28/2005 01:39:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Those are good reasons, but I think you might be exaggerating a bit...

Here's my view of the best-case scenario...Alien ship(s) appear(s) over Washington D.C. They announce that they come in peace (As long as they don't want "To Serve Man"[an old "Twilight Zone episode], in which case we should blast the heck outta them), and that they want to be our friends. Since 1/3-2/3 of the population believes in aliens, the shock SHOULD be minimal. The aliens offer us (by "us", I mean humanity, not just the U.S.) the technology to make intersteller (and possibly intergalactic) travel possible. They also don't interfere with our government, or dictate policy...

John

11/28/2005 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Djbarney, I'm an avid Trekkie. The only episodes I WON'T watch are the ones with the Borg in them (I saw "Star Trek: First Contact" in the theater back in 1997, and I STILL haven't completely gotten over that. I had nightmares for years)

John

11/28/2005 01:52:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

djbarney said...
>The Disclosure Project book includes a seemingly enlightened
representative from the Church (the Vatican?)
who was basicly saying "God created the Universe and us
AND Aliens...they're all Gods children...WHAT'S THE PROBLEM ?"


That sounds all very 'enlightened'. Now, go ask Jerry Falwell what he thinks...or better yet, go down to the local 1st Baptist Church and see how long you stay indoors with that philosophy. If they don't toss you out, they'll pray over ya untl you spontaneously combust!

It's not what one guys says...it's what 'da Church' says...the one's counting the receipts!

11/28/2005 02:07:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

My best-case scenario...

LGM land on White House lawn...entire Bush Administration and every crooked politician (*ALL), businessman, religious leader get sucked up... a la visions of the Rapture...except instead of heaven they end up in The Sandy-KY Eternal Home for Buggery. Child molestors and beaters can go too. Any spandex-wearing woman with pink hair that's overweight and get tatoo's to look 'hotter'...off they go too.

That will start things off.

11/28/2005 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous other side of the pacific said...

sunking said: "That sounds all very 'enlightened'. Now, go ask Jerry Falwell what he thinks...or better yet, go down to the local 1st Baptist Church and see how long you stay indoors with that philosophy. If they don't toss you out, they'll pray over ya untl you spontaneously combust!"

ROFLMAO!!!
Its 3am where i am now. Cant stop the laughter. ;D

But on a sober note, sunking, we may have a situation here.

Looks to me like this "drydock" has taken on a life/mind of its own. Some mateys are now questioning the engines, radars and (gulp) even the Bridge!

Have we hollowed out ole Enterprise the Frigate, and made Enterprise the Aegis Cruiser? Seems like Drydocking created more TEETH ;) And WITHOUT the Captain!

Just a thought..

11/28/2005 02:19:00 PM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

Regarding John's best case scenario comments about alien contact: Because we are humans we tend to ascribe our own motives and wishes on what aliens would do if they decide to officially "first contact" us. But it is entirely possible that they think in such an "alien" manner that none of our concepts are their concepts and they conduct themselves in whatever manner they see fit. We might have the same use as cattle and it doesn't matter to them what we think or want.

I'm not saying that's what they're doing, but it's something to consider.Though with the animal mutilations and the abductions it is not hard to look at things that way.

Since the topic is about the media's treatment of conspiracy theories, has anyone else noticed an increasing hostility towards those who report alien abductions? If I come across links, I'll post them, but it seems to me in different web and other media sources that there seems to be a berating attitude towards anyone who says they were subjected to the extraterrestial healthcare system...

11/28/2005 02:24:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Well, OSOTOP, as chief 'mutineer'/enabler/lackey I would not SAY those things. If some feel that is true, so mote it be, but in my first and 2nd blogs I stated that my intentions were 'honorable' and only with the good of TEM and the 'crewe' in mind. I meant that then and stand by it.

Now...taking off that hat, should popular opinion think that we should move on, honorably severing the close association with TEM (i.e. the hijacked blog faceplate) and should I be called upon to administer (not necessarliy skipper, I am not worthy) a new vessel with a new, unique flavor to it, I would not be adverse to it.

But in this role I currently serve under, your statement is much to seditious for ME to make. I DO hope you understand!

I AM glad that most of us stayed together and miss those that have either lost track of us or chose not to join us. And I am not displeased with the participation of this blog to date...quite surprised actually! And having fun...in AND out of the shower!

11/28/2005 02:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Thunderbolt 2012 said...

Great topic, Sunking!
I think that shower you were in was squirting holy water and you recieved a revelation !
The manner in which the books of the Bible were selected has been a primary burr in my saddle, as far as my relationship with "the church" (not Christ) is concerned. If you can find a preacher who will discuss this matter in a rational way without having the elder board vote you out of the church, he would probably say that these books (Enoch, Jubilees, etc.) were not included because they were not "spiritually inspired". If you then ask why they aren't and you're STILL not kicked out of the church , he might say "because they never talk about God or Jesus". A good example of this would be the 1st and 2nd books of "Maccabees". The Maccabeean rebellion is an important part of Old Testament history, but the presently accepted versions of the fundamentalist Protestant bibles do not contain them , supposedly because they don't talk about God and miracles and Jesus and are therefore not "spiritually inspired". (Catholic bibles do not seem to have this problem, however. The Maccabee texts ARE boringly factual, from what I have read.)The preacher might even say that it is OK to read them, even though they are not canonical, just for background information. The Bible is already big enough, he might say, and they need something managable for believers to deal with.
Stupid reasons ? Yes, and even people in high positions in the churches may have concealed anger and frustration about this.
But, this does not explain why books like Enoch are not included. After all, Genesis says that Enoch walked with God so closely that God decided to remove him from the Earth and he never experienced physical death. Now, it seems to me that this would be a fairly spiritual guy ! Yet, only a very few verses are there to tell us about him, because of this censorship.
Dr. Gene Scott used to rant on this topic unceasingly. We really need another heretical "Max Headroom" of the religious airwaves to get on there and stir the pot once again.
FYI, here is a link to a sight that seems to be fairly meaty on this subject matter:

http://www.bibleufo.com/anomlostbooks.htm

11/28/2005 02:32:00 PM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

John said...

starshipconstellation said...

"...Anyone know Japanese or know of a good translation site?"

Try this...

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

John

John: thanks for the link. I'm familiar with Babelfish. Sometimes the translations are pretty strange. I was hoping for something better, but then for all I know it may already be the best there is.

SunKing said...

starshipC,
re: TEM CT

Iontru02, in the last blog comment posts, mentioned something along the same lines...that RCH is trying to communicate something to us. It was very insightful and I recommend you go back and find his post...then let's magnify on it...there may be something to it!

Sunking: thanks for the tip, I'll go back and look for that.

11/28/2005 02:32:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I have a new post up at

http://eastsouthwestandnorth.blogspot.com/

Trust me when I say you have to do the work on this one.

11/28/2005 02:39:00 PM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

other side of the pacific said: "Some mateys are now questioning the engines, radars and (gulp) even the Bridge!"

In case that comment was meant for me, no offense taken. I'm not questioning the Captain, the bridge or the engines. Mainly just the communication systems. It is like any number of original Star Trek episodes in which Captain Kirk or someone says something really odd to let the others know something is wrong or that this is something they need to pay attention to in a significant way. Posting the Japanese link instead of an English "translation" link seems to be such a "message". I think it's worth paying attention to.

I can't believe I've written so many posts today. Usually, I just read without commenting much.

11/28/2005 02:40:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

SWORD, hello

Thank you for such a complete response. Much to think about.
I know in this flow, some threads don't cause an immediate stir of attention but nonetheless, you have spoken a truth that will "sink in", as my "calling you out" at this point might demonstrate.
As well, as Sunking kindly recalled my earlier nudge pertaining to the Capt. and his Mo at his home TEM site concerning the almost trivial(at first glance) new postings he put up, other crew have now picked up a couple of new thoughts pertaining to that idea of a imbedded cue from RCH.
In that example, perhaps just a little time delay to "zone in" on things, is what sometimes occurs as in your case.
I sympathize with you, if you didn't get quite the outcome that was sought, from the Capt. here or the crew in response. Primary point though is message received. You know it was read by all. What else would there be to do anyway?
If you are independent, then I don't want to keep "outing" you to the attention of the likes of our Governmental eejits and surely thats what they are as political postings.

So, you are highly skilled and very "flexible", what are you tasked to do? Are you going to be the guy who has to hop over to the big'uns and plant the "devices" necessary? Now don't tell me your the food guy!?!#@$ lol :)

Re: The Star of Crossing-do you know if the main planet broke up or is the debris from a number of the moons? Richard previously had hinted at archeology in the asteroids, and my hunch is they lost Niburu.

You have hinted a few times at the story of Lapetus and "The Moon With A View-Part 7". So whats up with that?
Was that the Ark for the gang if they had to leave Niburu/Marduk? A place to house themselves when their planet broke up, perhaps?

I hear you, RCH may have gone silent or absent and may not be fullfilling his role as you have said earlier a few times, so we'll just wait together for Dec 10th,2005 and see who lets it out, eh?

fyi: my father who was first a Sabre Pilot, said they used to call the F86 , the Sword.
Cool eh!?

Peace brother.

11/28/2005 02:50:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

I have to offer this funny for a little levity today.

RCMP to the rescue:

After numerous rounds of "We don't even know if Osama is still alive,"
Osama himself decided to send George W. a letter in his own handwriting to let him know he was still in the game. Bush opened the letter and it appeared to contain a coded message: 370HSSV-0773H

Bush was baffled, so he e-mailed it to Colin Powell. Colin and his
aides had no clue either so they sent it to the FBI. No one could solve it so it went to the CIA, on then to the NASA, then to the
Secret Service.

With no clue as to it's meaning, they eventually asked Canada's RCMP for help. The RCMP cabled the White House as follows:

"Tell the President he is looking at the message upside down"


Hi Hi Hi Hi Hi lol :) lmao

11/28/2005 02:54:00 PM  
Anonymous other side of the pacific said...

sunking said: "But in this role I currently serve under, your statement is much to seditious for ME to make. I DO hope you understand!"

Perfectly clear, sir! I do not wish to infer anything that would risk you being keel-hauled in vacuum.

As for keeping the face-plates and being part of the ole ship, i suggest we wait till the captain teleports back in again (when that will be, remains as much a mystery)

carry on, mates :)

11/28/2005 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

ROFLMAO, Ion!

11/28/2005 03:00:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

OSOTOP,
Cool! ;)

(You DO have a valid assessment, tho)

11/28/2005 03:03:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Sunking,

I'm still laughing too!!!

That reminds me of the stories we used to tell and punch in numbers with it on a traditional calculator to get words by turning it upside down. BOOBS etc.
Any one remember those?

11/28/2005 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous NightStar said...

Here is a better site for Japanese-English translations.
http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/

Paste Japanese text in left side and click the button (outlined in yellow) in the middle.

I would like to get to the bottom of why RCH abandoned his crew....

11/28/2005 03:10:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Yeah, Ion...I remember those, but the only one I halfway recall is the one that ended with SHELL on the calulator...probably the reason for Gulf War One or something...lol! Thanks. Already sent it to some Bush supporters!!

11/28/2005 03:15:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

OK I'll bite .. Who really (underlined in red) really wants to know what is what was and what will be?

http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/GossRefusesToGive.htm

11/28/2005 03:23:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

ericswan,
where's my bribe for putting your name on the blog?

Real tangled web ole Flocco puts together. Loved that MSNBC banner in the article, too! LOL!

I say just march 'em all outside, put two in the head, each, cover up the hole, put lead overdose as cause of death and call it a day. It's just too much BS to put up with....and all right in the middle of my holiday spending season, too!

11/28/2005 03:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Thunderbolt 2012 said...

Well,
All that I have to say is that when all the neocons finally get the chair, they should use the one in Florida. You know, the old one that catches fire once in a while ?
Since the latest blog is about the Bible, I have to confess that I may not get to Heaven because of my inability to accept...nay, rejection, of what it says in Romans 13. Then again, this was Saul of Tarsus speaking..not really God.

11/28/2005 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous 371 Bohemia said...

Hi all,

First, I hope everyone had a very enjoyable and SAFE holiday.

Now, some recent news:

JPL Lay-offs Announced:

From an internal memo:
When: 10 Dec 2005
Number: 330 subcontractors, contractors, and employees from various divisions.

Another round, if necessary, TBA January 2006. This is in compliance with an additional 2% across-the-board NASA imposed lay-off to off-set hurricane Katrina recovery costs and budgetary shortfall.

=-=-=-=

NEO Conference:

Some excerpts:

Currently one or two of these so called 'Near Earth Objects' [NEOs] are being recorded each day but fortunately for humankind the vast majority are the size of a human fist and pose no threat. Nevertheless, the presence of large impact craters on Earth provides dramatic evidence of past collisions, some of which have been catastrophic for the planet's species

Many of the smaller objects break up when they reach Earth's atmosphere and have no impact. However, a NEO larger than 1 km will collide with Earth every few hundred thousand years and an NEO larger than 6 km, which could cause a mass extinction, will collide with Earth every hundred million years. And we are overdue for a big one!"

It is estimated that 100 fist sized meteorites, fragments of NEO's, fall to Earth on a daily basis but larger objects impact with Earth on a much less regular basis.

The European Space Agency's NEO Mission Advisory Panel (NEOMAP) has selected "Don Quixote" as their preferred option for an asteroid deflecting test mission. Don Quixote would comprise two spacecraft - one of them (Hildalgo) would impact the asteroid at a very high relative speed while the second spacecraft (Sancho) would arrive earlier to monitor the effect of the impact to measure the variation of the asteroid's orbital parameters. This attempt to deflect an incoming NEO would act as a precursor mission with the primary objective of modifying the trajectory of a "non-threatening" asteroid.

http://www.pparc.ac.uk/Nw/NEO_conf.asp

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Waiting for release - other news coming.

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371 Bohemia

11/28/2005 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Thunderbolt 2012 said...

Bohemia,
Maybe we should use Tesla technology to modulate the shape of the ionosphere and effectively change the angle of attack against the solar wind as the Earth moves through it. Perhaps by offseting the frequency of the generator just slightly from that of the fundamental Schuman Resonance (7.5 Hz), we could create a beat frequency in the ionosphere that would correspondingly modulate the bulge in the ionosphere in a traveling wave fashion, so as to allow it to act as a motor and cause the Earth to "swim" through the solar wind in predictable directions, thereby avoiding some of the asteroids.

11/28/2005 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

Tom Flocco and Ed Dames. Accuracy percentage is about the same.

Definition of Ed Dames remote viewing.....

There is a remote chance anything viewed by Ed Dames will come to pass.

11/28/2005 05:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Thunderbolt 2012 said...

eric swan,
In response to your question in the last blog about whether the electric universe or the exploded planet hypothesis rules, I would suggest that they can fit together if the planet were exploded by an immense electrical discharge from a much larger body that passed in close proximity. Such a discharge could have adiabatically (i.e.instantaneously) heated the core of the planet from the inside and created enough internal pressure to blow it into thousands of pieces.

11/28/2005 05:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, you guys, dig this:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/warfare/69de/

Now THATS a tickling stick!
Sword

11/28/2005 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

That ain't no tickling stick. This is a tickling stick....

http://www.redhillgeneralstore.com/A67232.htm

11/28/2005 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous 371 bohemia said...

The Fountains of Enceladus

Recent Cassini images of Enceladus at high phase show the fountain-like sources of the fine spray of material that towers above the south polar region of Enceladus. The image was taken looking more or less broadside at the 'tiger stripe' fractures observed in earlier Enceladus images and shows discrete and small-scale plumes above the limb of the moon.

http://ciclops.org/view.php?id=1688

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Spray Above Enceladus

A fine spray of small, icy particles, emanating from the warm, geologically unique province surrounding the south pole of Enceladus and believed now to supply the material comprising Saturn's E ring, was first observed in images taken back on Jan. 16, 2005. Images of a crescent Enceladus returned by Cassii this past weekend show multiple plumes in striking detail.

http://ciclops.org/view.php?id=1652

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371 Bohemia

11/28/2005 07:14:00 PM  
Anonymous 371 bohemia said...

Thunderbolt 2012 said...

Bohemia,
Maybe we should use Tesla technology to modulate the shape of the ionosphere and effectively change the angle of attack against the solar wind as the Earth moves through it. Perhaps by offseting the frequency of the generator just slightly from that of the fundamental Schuman Resonance (7.5 Hz), we could create a beat frequency in the ionosphere that would correspondingly modulate the bulge in the ionosphere in a traveling wave fashion, so as to allow it to act as a motor and cause the Earth to "swim" through the solar wind in predictable directions, thereby avoiding some of the asteroids.

11/28/2005 05:26:59 PM

=-=-=-=

HAARP ... albeit non-Tesla ... maybe? :)

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371 Bohemia

11/28/2005 07:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Oh, you guys, dig this:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/warfare/69de/

Now THATS a tickling stick!
Sword

11/28/2005 06:33:33 PM
bubba hyde said...

That ain't no tickling stick. This is a tickling stick....

http://www.redhillgeneralstore.com/A67232.htm



Now boys,
What about this one?

http://www.sediva.com/cgi-bin/sediva/10836.html?id=fi9kvsTD

11/28/2005 07:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Morality is based on accepted norms and accepted norma are based on morality. It's self-causing...

11/28/2005 07:53:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

Another sorry member of Bush's right wing comedy troupe caught with his finger's in the cookie jar :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4480156.stm

11/28/2005 08:13:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

What!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4470906.stm

11/28/2005 08:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah - what can Brown do for you?
Apprently nothing... ...
Sword

11/28/2005 08:29:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

Is Brown capable of anything besides mamaging horse stalls?

11/28/2005 08:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can see him now:

Brown - "Oh Skipper! Oh Skipper!"

Bush - "what is it now Gilligan....?"

Sword

11/28/2005 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

The horses reported no complaints.

11/28/2005 10:11:00 PM  
Blogger DarkWood said...

crypt0 said...
->Monkey Wrench said...
> crypt0 and DarkWood,
You wont find your needed info from Heiser nor Sitchin. You were told many times, on the old TEM BBS, where the information is.
Monkey Wrench <

I was at TEM Blog, but never TEM BBS. I couldn't afford the cover charge :-)<-

Yah, same here. So Monkey, care to refresh us a bit or are 'ye just content to waste our time playing Mystery Monkey?

And you guys and 'yer ticklin' sticks, hehehe. You're just gonna make me ain't 'ya? Very well: http://www.lookatentertainment.com/v/v-895.htm

My apologies to the ladies, now.

Anyway, to slowly get back around to the topic at hand: The greatest thing the conspiracists ever pulled was convincing everyone else of the laughability of their existance.

DarkWood

11/28/2005 10:48:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Hi guys/gals...

Sunking, that's an interesting best-case scenario...

Starshipconstellation, you made a good point about the aliens' motives (That they might equate us to cattle). Just a suggestion for you, check out an episode of "Stargate: SG-1" called "Thor's Chariot" (Where they first meet Thor in his true form)...

Ever since I found out a couple of days ago that my dad's dad and granddad were Masons, I've been meaning to do some digging into what the Masons were/are. I'll do that when I'm done here...

Darkwood, you said...

"The greatest thing the conspiracists ever pulled was convincing everyone else of the laughability of their existance."

That sounds VERY similar to something I heard in church about the greatest trick Satan plays on us is convincing us that he doesn't exist, because THAT'S when he does his worst...

John

11/28/2005 11:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Monday, November 28, 2005
HHMSS
Sword

Straight to post replies – which are in the number of “reply-ee’s” – one:

IonTruO2 said...
Thank you for such a complete response. Much to think about.

Sword:
Hopefully, hopefully, come SITRO (Somewhere In The Range Of…) of 10 Dec 05, we will ALL have a lot to talk about.

IonTruO2 said...
I know in this flow, some threads don't cause an immediate stir of attention but nonetheless, you have spoken a truth that will "sink in", as my "calling you out" at this point might demonstrate.

Sword:
Indeed – the more we start thinking about the “star of crossing” and it true implications – the better off we will be.

IonTruO2 said...
As well, as Sunking kindly recalled my earlier nudge pertaining to the Capt. and his Mo at his home TEM site concerning the almost trivial(at first glance) new postings he put up, other crew have now picked up a couple of new thoughts pertaining to that idea of a imbedded cue from RCH.

Sword:
It certainly seems that after all, Rich is well. That’s a good thing. I am thinking that he was moved around to avoid any harassment, by members of a larger flock; Similar to Robert, which, I wonder, how he is doing by the way.
Silenced? Gagged? Call it what you will, but the TEM blog space is getting quite some bit of attention. Almost to much attention if you ask some folk.
As involved as he is with his fan base – and as involved as he is in other things – I believe that he is laying low before he drops the final chapter of his article series – “The Moon with a view”.

IonTruO2 said...
I sympathize with you, if you didn't get quite the outcome that was sought, from the Capt. here or the crew in response. Primary point though is message received. You know it was read by all. What else would there be to do anyway?

Sword:
My problem is I am much to impatient, and early. This, I am almost, certain was caused by a certain article Rich had written earlier with capitalized word that said DISCLOSURE. It was a catalyst that started other things in motion. This article was written SITRO 3 years ago. He was most likely right on time with that and I was either slow or early… …
I am certain that my postings added fuel to the fire as he gathered evidence from the blogg – and through quiet code – he found a book I was looking for. I am hoping that I found the books he was for. I response I am looking for should come, soon. It’s a matter of time… …

IonTruO2 said...
If you are independent, then I don't want to keep "outing" you to the attention of the likes of our Governmental eejits and surely thats what they are as political postings.

Sword:
Oh, trust me, those ultimately responsible for my actions know full well what I am doing. You questions are just more fuel for me to respond – giving the hint hint and nudge nudge evermore.

IonTruO2 said...
So, you are highly skilled and very "flexible", what are you tasked to do? Are you going to be the guy who has to hop over to the big'uns and plant the "devices" necessary? Now don't tell me your the food guy!?!#@$ lol :)

Sword:
Yeah – I’m the cook.
He he he – not really – just cooking something else up.
Currently I am tasked with following my Faiths religious teachings. But, Instead of being late, I woke up a bit to early for once. Unit Swords ultimate task is salvation. We help any military unit in trouble. We are, literally, a phone call away.
I will get into Unit Swords more dangerous tasks after “Article Seven – OMOTS (The Captain knows what that means) – but – at the same time – much of that has already been covered in previous posts.

IonTruO2 said...
Re: The Star of Crossing-do you know if the main planet broke up or is the debris from a number of the moons? Richard previously had hinted at archeology in the asteroids, and my hunch is they lost Niburu.

Sword:
I am sure that there is one or two sites – that are known – that do have remnants of what could be considered “archeology”. The hints I assume you are referring to are contained in some of Richards early articles. I can remember one such article that had a Disney Special (guest star – Van Braun himself) and a, hmmmm, “Viewmaster” slide?

IonTruO2 said...
You have hinted a few times at the story of Lapetus and "The Moon With A View-Part 7". So whats up with that?
Was that the Ark for the gang if they had to leave Niburu/Marduk? A place to house themselves when their planet broke up, perhaps?

Sword:
Lapetus an ark for what?
Consider the S.S. Minnow (Gillgan’s Islands) – it had a three foot hole in it that no one could fix. Regardless of the fact that the professor could create a nuclear reactor out of a coconut to keep a radio running – they couldn’t fix the dam boat.
In comes Lapetus.
I believe that when Niburu/Marduk (which one of those is the star of crossing is STILL up for debate) got destroyed – for whatever reason – there boat got a three foot hole in it in the process – rendering it a floating carcass. In comes Mesopotamian history – with the star of crossing.
The star of crossing is THEIR ARK, the last vestige of THEIR culture/civilization – and in which then they created US in THEIR image. We did the dirty work – they created their own rowboats and paddled away – and left us holding the empty bag.
Why leave?
Because they knew that the solar system was going to be so shot out by debris from THEIR last planet that it would be far better for them to leave than deal with the after math. Consider the unmolested debris as it throws itself into a fanning orbit through the solar system. Its going to be cosmic bowling and comets galore after it passes through “gods bracelet”… …
Hello humanity – Goodbye Humanity.
There is some “Truth in ancient solar system history 101” for those who are listening.

IonTruO2 said...
I hear you, RCH may have gone silent or absent and may not be fullfilling his role as you have said earlier a few times, so we'll just wait together for Dec 10th,2005 and see who lets it out, eh?

Sword:
Oh no, don’t get me wrong.
He’s doing an EXCELLENT job.
The tenth – things should get intresting.

IonTruO2 said...
fyi: my father who was first a Sabre Pilot, said they used to call the F86 , the Sword.
Cool eh!?

Sword:
For what is a Sabre – if it is not a Sword?

IonTruO2 said...
Peace brother.

Sword:
Faith, Hope, and Charity for you my bother… …

11/28/2005 11:39:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Well, I found this Mason site...

http://www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm

I haven't read it all, but from what I DID read, these guys are pretty scary...

11/28/2005 11:41:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Btw, anonymous, it's spelled "Iapetus", not "Lapetus"

11/28/2005 11:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John said...
Ever since I found out a couple of days ago that my dad's dad and granddad were Masons, I've been meaning to do some digging into what the Masons were/are. I'll do that when I'm done here...

Sword says:
GAD! Help this brother.
Lead him not into temptation of hear and say.
Blessed be his soul - however ignorant he may be... ...
Least let his path be led to hard work - a good nights sleep - and fine woman whom will make him pancakes and coffee...

Oh, and please my lord, do not send him my way with questions... ...I beg of you... ...
:-x
Amen

11/28/2005 11:44:00 PM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

John said...
>My question is this...IF THE MAJORITY OF THE HUMAN RACE BELIEVES THAT WE'RE BEING VISITED BY ALIENS, WHY DOES THE GOVERNMENT STILL KEEP THE TRUTH FROM US???!<

Welcome to my world, John :-)
President Bush is a money-grubbing knuckle-dragger who is not a REAL leader by the definition of others, or should I say, 'ethical outsiders'. The King on the island full of head-hunters has the same problem as the elites of Wall Street capitalism : on their own isolated island, they Rule, but if their people caught wind they were members of a neighborhood : the same knuckle-dragging leaders would have no legitimacy with their {cough cough} peers and would lose the legitimacy they've been fluffing up for hundreds of years. When the top5% own 95% of the wealth & resources ... that's the problem !!! It's a little like the head-huner chief putting skulls on sticks down at the beach and natural harbours.

It's not a case of "we" can;t handle the truth. It's YOU, non- top 5% and non-Old Money that can't handle the truth. You can't handle the truth ... because if you had the truth, you might figure out how to get that big boot with cleats off your neck !! Or, if you can't, the galactic neighbourhood might tell you or show you how.

other side of the pacific said...
>... we may have a situation here. Looks to me like this "drydock" has taken on a life/mind of its own. Some mateys are now questioning the engines, radars and (gulp) even the Bridge! Have we hollowed out ole Enterprise the Frigate, and made Enterprise the Aegis Cruiser? Seems like Drydocking created more TEETH ;) And WITHOUT the Captain! Just a thought.. <

I think alot of us hoped RCH would prosecute the truth, especially a "truth" that's been through a filtration system, or 'critically acclaimed' by the Crew. There are RCH topics we gave him feedback on and other topics we illuminated for him as well as some information that just fell into his lap. RCH is a good prosecutor when he wants to be !

Anonymous said...
>Morality is based on accepted norms and accepted norma are based on morality. It's self-causing... <
Are you suggesting that religion and law are by common consent ? Ahhhh, would that it were so, but they're not. Even if they were, the key terms that define both were by Royal ipse-dixit pronouncement - at least until the 1840s.
Ergo, it's the King's English :-)

11/29/2005 12:29:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

Explorers reported meeting dozens of cannibal tribes.
Even the Americans in WWII reported meeting some.

How many tribes remained cannibals ?
What was the impetus for change ?

11/29/2005 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the men who hold high places
Must be the ones to start
To mould a new reality
Closer to the heart

The blacksmith and the artist
Reflect it in their art
Forge their creativity
Closer to the heart

Philosophers and ploughmen
Each must know his part
To sow a new mentality
Closer to the heart

You can be the captain
I will draw the chart
Sailing into destiny
Closer to the heart

- Rush: "Closer to the Heart"

O Canada

11/29/2005 02:22:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

This is what I'm reading about. I want to thrust this onto pollyanna John

I personally would like to see a rerun of the "Lone Gunmen" pilot episode that showed a government faction hijacking an airliner by remote control with the intention of crashing it into the World Trade Center - the motive being to blame it on a tinpot dictator, resulting in an invasion of said dictator's country in order to ramp up arms sales. Sound familiar?

That episode was aired SIX MONTHS BEFORE 9/11 - and before Condi Rice said, "Gee, nobody would have guessed terrorists would do that!"

Right, Condi, we know you're too busy to watch Fox Television...

Posted by: richardstevenhack
--------------------------------

Richard, you can download the entire Pilot from here and watch on your PC:

http://xenonpuppy.net/The%20Lone%20Gunmen%20-%201x01%20-%20Pilot.avi

Number of 9/11 elements identical or sufficiently similar to the broadcast episode: 8

City: New York, NY
War-game scenarios: Operation Northwood’s, 5 military and FEMA drills on 9-11.
Target: World Trade Center, civilian airline
Method: Attack with remote controlled civilian airline
Motive: Arms Sales
Starting point: Boston Logan
Blamed parties: Tin-pot dictators.
Intended Result: False flag retaliatory war, smart bombing, arms sales.

Do you care to figure out the mathematical odds of a TV episode containing eight of the major unique characteristics of the attacks on 9/11? Is eight unique characteristics enough for you to begin to cast greater doubt upon the government’s version of the attacks and who is to blame? Or maybe you might want to believe that Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda minions viewed that episode and a lightbulb went off and he got the plans rolling, got the financing, got the volunteers and them positioned and trained to fly with only a few months preparation. You buy that?

11/29/2005 03:39:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

Call it Democracy
by Bruce Cockburn, written Nov. 1985

Padded with power here they come
international loan sharks backed by the guns
of market hungry military profiteers
whose word is a swamp and whose brow is smeared
with the blood of the poor

Who rob life of its quality
who render rage a necessity
by turning countries into labour camps
modern enslavers in drag as chaaampions of freedom

Sinister and cynical instrument
who makes the gun into a sacrament --
the only response to the deification
of tyranny by so-called "developed" nations'
idolatry of ideology

North south east west
kill the best and buy the rest
it's just spend a buck to make a buck
you don't really give a flying f*ck
about the people in misery

IMF dirty MF
takes away everything it can get
always making certain that there's one thing left
keep them on the run with insupportable debt

See the paid-off local bottom feeders
passing themselves off as leaders
kiss the ladies shake hands with the fellows
open for business like a cheap bordello

And they call it democracy
and they call it democracy
and they call it democracy
and they call it democracy

See the loaded eyes of the children too
trying to make the best of it the way kids do
one day you're going to rise from your habitual feast
to find yourself staring down the throat of the beast
they call a revolution

IMF dirty MF
takes away everything it can get
always making certain that there's one thing left
keep them on the run with insupportable debt

11/29/2005 03:46:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

Kennedy was presented with Operation Northwoods when he expressed interest in finding a (political) way of invading Cuba. The CIA had a plan at the ready. Instead, JFK was incensed by the suggestion of slamming planes full of US schoolchildren into buildings.

The Lone Gunman hints that the "plan" was leaked to Hollywood before it was executed. The fact that TV predicted reality reflect the HUGE investment the CIA has made into Hollywood. Self-censorship in Hollywood is CIA censorship.

Would the son of a former CIA boss and son of a former President (dubya) trust the CIA more or less than JFK ?

The CIA knew that the Lone Gunman had already been aired on TV - that was part of the "terror" because anyone scratching the surface and looking into the 9-11 events are supposed to be terrified by what they find. They're supposed to sound like surrealists - so nobody will want to pay attention to them. Mentioning a TV show like the Lone Gunman is an act of self-marginalization UNLESS presented at the end of the Power Point presentation in court.

The CIA wants control. But don't they already have control ? Not as much control as they would have if everyone was believing Hollywoodisms, blaming (crediting) the Freemasons for everything and believing that conspiracy has nothing to do with greed, Old money and Wall Street capitalism. I wouldn't trust any millionaires from Hollywood anymore than I would trust slavering aspirants who fancy themselves as modern day versions of John Dee and Gerard Mercator.

11/29/2005 04:00:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

I'm not out to deny Graham Hancock that new tear-shaped pool with the negative edge he's been dreaming about ... I am not saying people should not read Graham Hancock, I simply suggest they learn HOW to read Graham Hancock by understanding who he is connected to, who feeds him his information and where those feeders got the information they're feeding. Knowing the context will explain why he takes a dogmatic position on mappamundi and probably help the reader fit him or herself with the right corrective lenses (bi-focals) that are necessary to study and continue YOUR quest, unmolested and disabused by mystery guides with a dual purpose.

11/29/2005 04:09:00 AM  
Blogger Biological_Unit said...

Om Canada

11/29/2005 04:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Erection time: Two men, five minutes; One man, fifteen minutes"

from the ad for a portable radio antenna on TEM web site.

11/29/2005 05:19:00 AM  
Blogger Gort said...

Thruster glitch puts asteroid probe in ‘safe mode’
10:08 29 November 2005
NewScientist.com news service


Latest update I have found on the Hayabusa/Itokawa mission.
Also I looked at the Enterprise Mission web site top Hayabusa link to the
Japanese version, and scrolled down to find there is quite a bit of rough English translation, which covers some of the same info in the NewScientist article.

I also jumped from the above NewScientist page to the story from 26 Nov, and the mention of "six-metre craft" that I copied and pasted the other night is now missing from the article.
Kinda makes you go "Hmmmmmm?" :)

BTW, the difference between 6 meters and 19.5 feet is only 2.2 inches.
(about the length of a Doobie :) )

Gort

11/29/2005 05:55:00 AM  
Blogger Gort said...

Someone had a comment the other day about Russian Bear and how a Canadian fighter plane could fly circles around it. The "Bear" is a propellor plane and a rather large and lunky bomber, although from the context of the comment it was probably configured as a reconnaissance plane. The name "bear" is the NATO designation and not the Russian name for the plane. Bombers are given a name that begins with "B" and fighters are given names that bein with "F". Further, the designation is one sylable for prop planes and two sylables for jets, e.g. Flogger, Fishback, Fitter are MiG jet fighters.
(not to be confused with German
Fokkers...)
Gort

11/29/2005 06:17:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

I know it's like a Hercules on steroids. We were kids living near the North Magnetic Pole and our fathers were radiomen but they were also on the front line. The Cold War hype of 1979 on a bunch of 11-16yr olds who had grown up hearing "the Russians are coming". I was telling the stories that fathers in Navy uniforms were telling their somewhat panicked sons and daughters (mine was even further north, on Ellesmere Island at the time). It was pretty cool to see out the classroom window - we discussed who had extra rifles and skidoos before bolting home.

A BOLT FROM THE BLUE as they say ...

I probably over-edited and didn't explain what could run rings around what. It wasn't that our crappy Korean surplus VooDoos could out maneuvre a Russian Bear. It was more of an eyebrow raiser, like, we have craft that run rings around the fighters we see on the tarmack - and that's why we gave up the Arrow.

11/29/2005 06:40:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Thunderbolt 2012 said...
eric swan,
In response to your question in the last blog about whether the electric universe or the exploded planet hypothesis rules, I would suggest that they can fit together if the planet were exploded by an immense electrical discharge from a much larger body that passed in close proximity. Such a discharge could have adiabatically (i.e.instantaneously) heated the core of the planet from the inside and created enough internal pressure to blow it into thousands of pieces.
This is a bit of an historical anecdote that has never been revealed. It concerns the meteorite that fell here in North East Alberta 10,000 years ago.. What you say? How do you know it fell here 10,000 years ago.

A Methodist Missionary by the name of John McDougall came to Alberta in 1842. He brought his family to Morleyville, Alberta and set up a missionary to convert the native Indians in the region. Somehow, he found out about the icons of real Native significance and in an expedition of 1878, he travelled to the site of a stone called Manitou by the Native Indian population. They had described a stone as extraordinariy heavy and had the face of a chief on it. The myth of Manitou according to many sources including McDougall is that Manitou came to earth at a time when there was a general famine due to the lack of buffalo. When this sign in the skies occured the medicine men took it to be a sign from the Creator. They set out from all corners of North America in a quest to see what this sign was. As it turns out, the Manitou stone was found in "Iron" Creek and the people who followed it there found a huge herd of buffalo which may have also followed the star to this location but that is a bit of speculation on my part. The fact is the Manitou stone was taken from the bed of the creek to the top of the bluff where it stayed until McDougall arrived with his ox bow cart. He removed the meteorite to his church grounds a distance of several hundred miles. He pointed out to the natives that this "god" of theirs was not much of a god and left it laying out in the yard for a rebuke to the Natives. This trek took place in the spring of 1878 and 10 years later, the natives had been converted and Manitou was shipped out to Toronto, Ontario on the recently completed CPR.
In 1942 an archaeological team led by Worthington, went to the Castor, Alberta site on the banks of Iron Creek and started an excavation at the site of Manitou's creek side perch. Here, they found layer upon layer of stone implements dating back 10,000 years. Worthington did not make note of the fact this was the original site of the Manitou.

Manitou itself turned out to be meteorite 1905A the largest ever discovered in Canada.
It has been recovered back to Edmonton, Alberta on loan from the University of Toronto. It does have a very clear face in it for which I have 1 photograph. Being roughly the size of a very large head and weighing nearly 500 pounds and having run my fingers over it makes one wonder at the nature of this universe. The picture I have is in a frame. I will eventually take it down and scan it to my blog.
My information came from the first white girl born in Alberta. Her name is Eleanor Luxton the great grandaughter of John McDougall.

11/29/2005 06:44:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

11/29/2005 06:47:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

I always liked the Fokker model airplanes ... cuz you could say Fokker !
With plausible deniability if Mom overheard :-)
It's a bird, it's a plane, holy cow, look at that Fokker go !
I still hear grown ups saying "go look that up in yer Funk-n-Wagnalls" :-)

What did the Russians call the Bear ?
I should try to Google my way to calculating the date the Russians recovered their satellite from south of Great Slave Lake. They weren't coming to drop bombs, in fact, they were looking for the Airport, so we could re-fuel them. Most planes follow the MacKenzie River when the compasses become unreliable, but finding Inuvik coming from over the Ocean is VERY difficult with no compass !! The delta has thousands of branches.

11/29/2005 07:08:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

This isn't surprising either;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4480638.stm

11/29/2005 07:18:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

the government version of Manitou

LOCATION OF FIND: A hill near Iron Creek, a tributary of the Battle River, in the area of present-day Sedgewick, Alberta.
DATE: First reported in 1869.

DESCRIPTION: An irregular squat cone about 22 cm high, 56 cm in diameter. The Iron Creek meteorite was weighed again in June 1999 and registered 145.25 kg. Ron Messieux believes the original weight of 175 kg to be an error.

CLASSIFICATION: Iron - IIIA - Medium octahedrite.

CIRCUMSTANCES: When the meteorite was first reported, it was in the farmyard of the mission house at Fort Victoria, some 100 km northeast of what was then Fort Edmonton. It had been taken there from Iron Creek, about 250 km to the south.

For countless generations, this iron meteorite had been greatly venerated by the native people. They saw the features of a face in the markings of its surface, and they made it offerings of beads and knives before setting out on hunts. When it was removed, they feared dire consequences which, as the accompanying report relates, did come to be.

CURRENT HOUSING: The entire meteorite is at the Provincial Museum of Alberta, Edmonton.


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http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/cdnmeteorites/

11/29/2005 07:26:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

this last little bit on Manitou and I'll let it go..

Excerpt

In the farmyard of the mission-house there lay a curious block of metal of immense weight; it was rugged, deeply indented, and polished on the outer edges of the indentations by the wear and friction of many years. Its history was a curious one. Longer than any man could say, it had laid on the summit of a hill far out in the southern prairies. It had been a medicine-stone of surpassing virtue among the Indians over a vast territory. No tribe or portion of a tribe would pass in the vicinity without paying a visit to this great medicine: it was said to be increasing yearly in weight. Old men remembered having heard old men say that they had once lifted it easily from the ground. Now, no single man could carry it. And it was no wonder that this metallic stone should be a Manito-stone and an object of intense veneration to the Indian; it had come down from heaven; it did not belong to the earth, but had descended out of the sky; it was, in fact, an aerolite. Not very long before my visit this curious stone had been removed from the hill upon which it had so long rested and brought to the Mission of Victoria by some person from that place. When the Indians found that it had been taken away, they were loud in the expression of their regret. The old medicine-men declared that its removal would lead to great misfortunes, and that war, disease, and dearth of buffalo would afflict the tribes of the Saskatchewan. This was not a prophecy made after the occurrence of the plague of smallpox, for in a magazine published by the Wesleyan Society in Canada there appears a letter from the missionary, setting forth the predictions of the medicine-men a year prior to my visit. The letter concludes with an expression of thanks that their evil prognostications had not been attended with success. But a few months later brought all the three evils upon the Indians; and never, probably, since the first trader had reached the country had so many afflictions of war, famine, and plague fallen upon the Crees and the Blackfeet as during the year which succeeded the useless removal of their Manito-stone from the lone hill-top upon which the skies had cast it.

1872: Butler. '"The Great Lone Land", London, 1872, p.304

11/29/2005 07:47:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

IF Manitou was originally in NE Alberta ...
I'll bet ya $5 it's equidistant to Jerusalem with Manitoulin Island in Georgian Bay.
I'm lookin' right at it on my map :-)

11/29/2005 07:48:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Hi all...

Biological_unit, I had forgotten all about "The Lone Gunman" (I only saw 1 or 2 episodes, and it wasn't on for very long...). I DO seem to remember (vaguely) hearing about an episode like you discribed. I tried to download it from that link, but it said the file didn't exist (which is strangely funny)...

Did anyone hear the 1st hour of C2C earlier this morning? They were talking about the Canadian UFO thing (which apparently is gaining more attention in the media, or so I heard). Sunking, remember your best-case scenario...?

"SunKing said...
My best-case scenario...

LGM land on White House lawn...entire Bush Administration and every crooked politician (*ALL), businessman, religious leader get sucked up... a la visions of the Rapture...except instead of heaven they end up in The Sandy-KY Eternal Home for Buggery. Child molestors and beaters can go too. Any spandex-wearing woman with pink hair that's overweight and get tatoo's to look 'hotter'...off they go too.

That will start things off."

Also, starshipconstellation, you said...

"Regarding John's best case scenario comments about alien contact: Because we are humans we tend to ascribe our own motives and wishes on what aliens would do if they decide to officially "first contact" us. But it is entirely possible that they think in such an "alien" manner that none of our concepts are their concepts and they conduct themselves in whatever manner they see fit. We might have the same use as cattle and it doesn't matter to them what we think or want."


Now, I'm NOT gloating or bragging, simply reporting what I heard, and if any of this is inaccurate, please tell me, but the guest in the 1st hour wasn't predicting anything CLOSE to what you 2 predicted for a scenario, yet it was VERY close to my best-case scenario. He said that the aliens want to open diplomatic ties with us, and he was concerned about the Air Force shooting down UFOs (Although, every report of UFO intercepts that I've read shows that the planes can't even keep up with a ship, and that it zooms off before they get a positive ID.), because we might accidentally start a war...

John

11/29/2005 08:09:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Neat story on space.com ...

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/051129_dark_energy.html

11/29/2005 08:18:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

Did you notice that Paul Hellyer specified they were ETHICAL ?
Did you notice him describe the Black American program that way ?
The expression of the one is the exclusion of the other.
The Black Ops way is to take the people out of the loop
and plug whatever technology they can steal to corporations.
Like the Ferengis and Hyenas that they are ...

11/29/2005 08:36:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

My best-case scenario :
Non Ferengi countries benefit from contact
While Ferengi countries are excluded.

If it happens in my lifetime,
Boy am I gonna laugh my head off !!!

Ethical beings who don't buy Wall Street's pretensions
and see through when they try to usurp the people
using Washington as its proxy.

Wall Street - YOU'RE FIRED !!!!
{now ya see why aliens pose a special threat to Wall St}

11/29/2005 08:44:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

Britain feared super-cultures and the US fears ET ...
Wall Street capitalists always had the ringer turned down
They knew that if & when ET calls
They alone HAD to be the one to answer the phone
and they probably did
but it appears that ET hung up and tried another number !!
Now, the elitists are surplus to ET's requirements ...
Maybe they'll have to work for a living
instead of laying around jacking it and watching TV !!
I hear McDonald's is hiring !!!!
{help me out here Jas - this is rich !!!}

11/29/2005 08:52:00 AM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

john, hello
you said:
John said...
Btw, anonymous, it's spelled "Iapetus", not "Lapetus"

11/28/2005 11:43:38 PM


IonTruO2--> That may well be my mispelling John. A little confusion over which letter it actually was. i or l?

Btw: For those of us with tired hands, anybody know where I can find a FITALY keyboard?

11/29/2005 08:54:00 AM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Sword,
you said:
GAD! Help this brother.
Lead him not into temptation of hear and say.
Blessed be his soul - however ignorant he may be... ...
Least let his path be led to hard work - a good nights sleep - and fine woman whom will make him pancakes and coffee...

Oh, and please my lord, do not send him my way with questions... ...I beg of you... ...
:-x
Amen

11/28/2005 11:44:06 PM

iontruo2-->Oh my God! a sense of humour wrapped in a prayer! Lmao! Good One! Such is the burden of being an communicator, Sword.
Deep breaths, they do get tired and/or full from time to time and the silence is golden. lol :)

11/29/2005 09:00:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Bio_Unit,
re: 9/11 and Lone Gunmen

That's NOTHING! Look at THIS! (Note the dateline)

Liar, Liar,
Pentagon's on Fire!!!
"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile - a hijacked airplane as a missile.", Condi Rice.


Contingency Planning

11/29/2005 09:02:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

John,
Gloat? Brag? About WHAT?

Obviously, my best-case scenario was meant for comedic effect.

More Importantly, what makes you think the guy on C2C has any more idea on what ET would do than you or me or anybody walking down the street? Face it, he's like your minister telling you that you and your fellows will die and go to heaven...He has no REAL idea at all and no proof whatsoever!

And reading the space.com article about the universe expanding faster than thought...think about this: everytime we have explored the planets and moons, all of our previous ideas about "what is what" have been blown away.

People can talk a lot of BS, but face it...we have no way of knowing until we've been there and come back to tell about it!! Even then, ......

11/29/2005 09:23:00 AM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Great stuff everybody!

Thanks ericswan for the meteor Manitou content!

Crypto You never seise to amaze me. Better write that book soon before that warehouse full of knowledge goes Alzheimer on you.
I'm pre-ordering.

FURTHER:
crypt0 said...
Did you notice that Paul Hellyer specified they were ETHICAL ?
Did you notice him describe the Black American program that way ?
The expression of the one is the exclusion of the other.
The Black Ops way is to take the people out of the loop
and plug whatever technology they can steal to corporations.
Like the Ferengis and Hyenas that they are ...

11/29/2005 08:36:05 AM

IonTruO2-->Reminds me of Col. Corso's comments pertaining to "The Day After Roswell" book and his motive to disperse the technology into the societal/industrial infrastructure because they knew that the CIA and Co. would otherwise swallow it up and make it disappear.

Sunking-Good find!!
My nagging question is: If 911 in the New york example was a planned "Demolition" of sorts. then to what end? Just an easier eviction? Like New Orleans.
Why would they want to down those various buildings? To rebuild safer or more modern? Outside of the contrived drama for the other agendas, was it perhaps, a twisted strategy of Urban Renewal in a colossal city that might not "welcome" some radical "improvements"? Was the realestate that valuable there?

Just some musings.

11/29/2005 09:29:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

iontru02,
Go back a bit. Google 'PNAC', Project for the New American Century. This org is financed by Right-wingers (one of which was the very last company in the US to allow hiring of minorities and fought it to the bitter end), Intel types and MIlitary/Industrial Complex representatives. I looked into it and researched myself!

See 'Rebuilding America's Defenses'. This was commissioned by Cheney, written by Wolfowitz and Kristol. In it is the premise for the Pax Americana and the blueprint for the situation we find ourselves in today. In it you will also find the references to a new "Pearl Harbor'. Look at it, gang, it's all there, some between the lines, but easily recognizable.

This document espouses the need to have a wider range of pre-placed military in foreign locations, especially near the 'hot spots', both for force projection and to ensure that we can take action without having to deal with buereaucratic red tape and enjoy the freedom of having pre-positioned troops and assets. With this in mind, is it any surprise that there has been no hurry to leave Iraq, that in 2003 everyone was shruggin their shoulders saying "What plan? We don't have an after-war plan?". BULL! There are rooms full of plans in the Pentagon and trainloads of military officers standing around with nothing to do BUT plan! What lies!

In that 9/11 fit perfectly the aims, goals and modus operandi of this plan is damning. In that 9/11 has served to enrich the right-wing power base politically and the supporters of this plan (MI Complex, Big Energy) fiscally, is damning. In that members of PNAC now hold high office and wield concomitant power (e.g. Wolfowitz - President of the World Bank, Bolton - US Ambassador to the UN) is damning.

One factoid about this Cheney-led cabal...when Dubya was first mentioned as a candidate for President, there was great dissent among the 'party faithful'. It was only after Cheney was propped up as potential Vice President that there was a collective sigh of relief and things moved forward. Bush if the beard, the face, the Jacksonian-style "man of the people" (BS!)...Cheney, walking the halls of power for 25 years mostly in unelected positions, is the true power, intelligence-wise and ideologically and the real man to fear.

11/29/2005 10:11:00 AM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

john said: "Now, I'm NOT gloating or bragging, simply reporting what I heard, and if any of this is inaccurate, please tell me, but the guest in the 1st hour wasn't predicting anything CLOSE to what you 2 predicted for a scenario, yet it was VERY close to my best-case scenario."

starshipconstellation said: Which guest are you referring to? My local station that airs C2C repeats the previous night's programme minus the first hour and then runs the current one which is one in the morning my time. I'm too old to lose that much sleep and go to work the next day. But based on what you've written, I totally stand by my original statement of opinion. I don't pretend to know what aliens might do, but I'm willing to consider that the human point of view may not be the alien point of view.

You mentioned an episode of Stargate. I ditched cable tv ten years ago, and watch five hours or less a month of broadcast tv. It's not likely I'm going to catch the episode you refer to. If I am presented with the choice of buying art supplies or paying for cable, cable loses everytime.

gort said: "Latest update I have found on the Hayabusa/Itokawa mission.
Also I looked at the Enterprise Mission web site top Hayabusa link to the
Japanese version, and scrolled down to find there is quite a bit of rough English translation, which covers some of the same info in the NewScientist article."

starshipconstellation said: I noticed the same thing about the translations. Maybe RCH does not want us to trust the translations or he wants us to notice the information that has disappeared. Surely it's not something as simple as not checking up on posted links or mislinking?

11/29/2005 10:34:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Sunking said...

"Obviously, my best-case scenario was meant for comedic effect."

Oops, my bad. I didn't realize it was a joke. I thought that you were giving your honest opinion on what could happen...

Starshipconstellation, the episode I'm talking about is, as you said, "...the current one which is one in the morning my time..."

As for the "Stargate: SG-1" episode, SG-1 meets Thor, Supreme Commander of the Asgard Fleet. The Asgard are identical to the "Roswell Grays", and are friends to all, except the Goa'uld and the Replicators...

John

11/29/2005 10:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Thunderbolt 2012 said...

There are those who think that the results of Cheney's energy task force meeting were the trigger to order the 911 attacks - TB2012


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Document Says Oil Chiefs Met With Cheney Task Force

Can oil production satisfy rising demand?

By David J. Lynch
USA TODAY
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2005-11-24-peak-oil-usat_x.htm

In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.

WASHINGTON — Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman has asked a high-level advisory board to answer one of the toughest questions dogging the U.S. economy: Can world oil production meet steadily rising demand?

In a previously unreleased Oct. 5 letter to ExxonMobil CEO Lee Raymond, chairman of the National Petroleum Council, Bodman asked for a study of the industry's ability to produce enough oil and natural gas at prices that won't cripple the economy.

"He's asked them to take a big-picture look out several years. ... He wants to get some definitive information," says Craig Stevens, an Energy Department spokesman.

The most noteworthy aspect of Bodman's request is a reference to the "peak oil" debate. At issue: the claim by a vocal minority of energy experts that the world is at, or near, maximum oil production.

That doesn't mean the world is running out of oil. But as booming economies in China and India boost demand, and production levels off, prices will rise. "Oil isn't a concept. It needs to be discovered and produced," says Matthew Simmons, author of a recent book questioning the extent of Saudi Arabia's oil reserves.

Avoiding economic turmoil will require more than a decade of "intense, expensive effort," according to a February study by Science Applications International for the Energy Department. The U.S. would need to build alternative fuel plants and greatly increase vehicle fuel efficiency.

"If peaking is imminent, failure to initiate timely mitigation could be extremely damaging," the report warned.

Many oil industry figures scoff at the peak oil theory, saying rising prices will spur exploration. The International Energy Agency last month agreed, saying oil reserves in the Middle East are "relatively underexploited and are sufficient to meet rising global demand for the next quarter-century and beyond."

Some also doubt that consumption will rise in line with current forecasts of 2% annual growth. China's economy could stumble and American consumers could ditch their gas-guzzlers for more-efficient vehicles. "People will react. They're not going to keep doing what they're doing," says Jim Parkman, an investment banker at Petrie Parkman in Houston.

But the debate is affecting oil company marketing. A Chevron ad asks: "The world consumes two barrels of oil for every barrel discovered. So is this something you should be worried about?"

The NPC study is intended to answer that question. The roster of the 175-member body, created in 1947 by President Truman, reads like a "who's who" of the petroleum industry. The council is chaired by Raymond, CEO of the nation's largest oil company.

That causes Simmons to doubt whether the NPC will endorse the peak oil camp. But Rep. Roscoe Bartlett, R-Md., who met with President Bush this summer to urge government action, says: "Any thinking person has to recognize at some point the world is going to face a crisis."



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Platinum Rises to 25-Year High

Above $1,000 an Ounce, on Growth in Demand

Bloomberg
By Danielle Rossingh
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/markets/commodities.html

In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.

Nov. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Platinum in New York rose above $1,000 an ounce for the first time since 1980 amid speculation that demand for the metal used in pollution-control devices will keep rising.

Production will fall short of demand this year by 120,000 ounces, forcing manufacturers and jewelers to dig deeper into inventories, Johnson Matthey Plc, the largest platinum-group metals distributor, said Nov. 15. Fuel-emission regulations are being tightened in both the U.S. and Europe.

“Platinum is likely to remain in deficit over the next few years” because of demand from carmakers, Robin Bahr, an analyst at UBS AG in London, said in an e-mail today.

Platinum futures for January delivery rose $16.80, or 1.7 percent, to $1,001.10 an ounce on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Prices earlier reached $1,011 an ounce, the highest for a most- active contract since March 12, 1980, according to the exchange. Platinum, up 16 percent this year, reached $1,189.50 on March 5, 1980, the highest since trading started in 1956.

Use of platinum, which is used as a catalyst to reduce air pollution from exhaust, will grow 8.4 percent to a record 3.86 million ounces this year as clean-air laws boost demand, Johnson Matthey said. European demand for diesel cars, which can only use platinum in catalytic converters, has surged because the fuel is cheaper than gasoline. Almost 50 percent of new cars bought in Europe this year will be diesel-fueled, Johnson Matthey said.

Diesel Engines

“Diesel demand in Europe is still very healthy, with diesel- fueled cars now making up almost half of all new cars in Europe,” Wolfgang Wrzesniok-Rossbach, the head of marketing and sales at Heraeus Holding GmbH, a precious-metals processor based in Hanau, Germany, said.

Mack Trucks Inc., based in Allentown, Pennsylvania, and Gothenburg, Sweden-based Volvo AB are among companies planning to install catalysts in diesel-powered commercial vehicles to meet U.S. regulations that come into force in 2007.

Platinum output is growing slower than expected after an explosion at Anglo Platinum Ltd.’s Polokwane smelter in South Africa. Anglo Platinum, the world’s biggest producer of the metal, said in September production this year will be 2.45 million ounces, down from a July forecast of 2.6 million ounces.

Prices for palladium, which is also used in some auto catalysts, have plunged as platinum has gained. Palladium rose to a record $1,125 an ounce in 2001, encouraging carmakers to switch to platinum. Platinum traded at $632 an ounce in 2001.

The surplus in palladium will narrow to 650,000 ounces from 1.4 million ounces in 2004 because of reduced shipments from Russia, according to Johnson Matthey.

Palladium futures for March delivery rose $1.20, or 0.5 percent, to $266.90 an ounce on the Nymex. Prices have gained 44 percent this year.

To contact the reporter on this story:
Danielle Rossingh in London at drossingh@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: November 28, 2005 14:45 EST



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Massachusetts in energy deal with Venezuela

Deal provides discounted oil to needy in state

The Associated Press
Nov. 22, 2005
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10157028/

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QUINCY, Mass. - Venezuelan officials signed a deal Tuesday to ship 12 million gallons (45 million liters) of discounted home heating oil to poor Americans in Massachusetts as part of plan by Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez to help needy U.S. communities.

The fuel is being offered by Citgo Petroleum Corp., a subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company which runs roughly 16,000 gas stations in the U.S.

U.S. Rep. William Delahunt, who helped broker the deal, called the agreement "an expression of humanitarianism at its very best," and rejected criticism that the move was motivated by politics. Chavez often blames the plight of the poor on unbridled capitalism and had criticized U.S. President George W. Bush's government for failing to reduce poverty.

"This is a gesture about people," said Delahunt, a Democrat.

Delahunt said the agreement could set an example for U.S. oil companies. Congressional leaders have asked the companies to use some of their profits to fund heating fuel assistance programs for low-income residents.

"I just hope that this sends a message, and that other oil companies will step and help also," Delahunt said.

Reducing costs?
Chavez announced the idea of offering fuel directly to poor U.S. communities during a visit to Cuba in August. He has said the aim is to bypass middlemen to reduce costs for the American poor.

The plan to provide low-cost heating oil to poor communities in Massachusetts and also the Bronx in New York City is "eminently a political move," said Patrick Esteruelas, an analyst with the New York-based Eurasia Group.

He said it is a way for Venezuela to "compromise the White House position within the U.S." and emphasize what Chavez has long cited as the failings of U.S. policy.

The initiative is part of a larger effort by Chavez to use Venezuela's surging oil wealth to extend the country's influence and create an alternative to what he calls U.S. "imperialism" in the region.

Chavez says he is leading a socialist "revolution" and has become one Bush's strongest critics in Latin America.

Close ally with Castro
The Venezuelan president has sought to strengthen alliances by offering oil deals to countries across Latin America and the Caribbean, shipping fuel on preferential terms while offering low-interest loans and accepting partial payment in goods ranging from bananas to sugar.

Chavez, a close ally of Cuban leader Fidel Castro, has repeatedly accused the U.S. government of plotting to overthrow him -- allegations firmly denied by Washington.

At the same time, Venezuela remains a major supplier of fuel to the United States and provided about 12 percent of U.S. crude imports in September, the last month for which U.S. figures are available.

Chavez has sought to decrease that dependency, seeking new markets in China and elsewhere for Venezuelan oil.

The South American country, which has the largest conventional oil reserves outside the Middle East, is the world's No. 5 oil exporter and a founding member of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.

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“The number of unsold homes was the highest since April 1986.”

U.S. Existing Home Sales Fall More Than Forecast

Nov. 28 (Bloomberg)
By Carlos Torres
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&refer=
top_world_news&sid=aOOMP_Qv3Qbs

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Rising mortgage rates and skyrocketing prices put home-buying out of reach for more Americans in October, a new report showed.

Sales of previously owned U.S. homes fell a greater-than- expected 2.7 percent last month to a 7.09 million annual rate, the slowest since March, the National Association of Realtors said today in Washington. The number of unsold homes was the highest since April 1986.

Housing affordability, already at a 14-year low last quarter, will continue to drop and deprive the economy of a source of strength in coming months, economists said. Today’s report showed the median price rose about 17 percent over the past year to $218,000, the biggest jump in 26 years. The average 30-year fixed mortgage rate exceeded 6 percent in October and has kept rising since then.

“The peak in home sales activity is behind us,” said Richard DeKaser, chief economist at National City Corp. in Cleveland. “So far, it’s a gentle trek down.” Housing ``will present a drag for the economy,” DeKaser said.

Existing home sales fell from September’s 7.29 million annual rate. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg News forecast home resales would fall to a 7.2 million annual pace from September’s previously reported 7.28 million pace, according the median of 54 estimates. The pace reached a record 7.35 million in June.

Effect on Economy

The housing industry accounts for only about 5 percent of the U.S. economy and yet generated half of the growth in this year’s first six months and more than half of the private jobs added since 2001, Merrill Lynch & Co. said in an August report.

Resales, which account for about 85 percent of the residential real estate market, are tabulated at contract closings and reflect buying decisions made a month or two earlier. New-home sales are counted when a contract is signed, making them a better gauge of current activity, economists said.

The report on new home purchases is due tomorrow from the Commerce Department. Sales are forecast to fall to a 1.2 million annual pace, from 1.222 million in September, according to the median estimate of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News.

Homebuilder shares fell today. A Standard & Poor’s index of 16 builders including Centex Corp. and D.R. Horton Inc. dropped 29.5 points, or 3.2 percent, as of 2:35 p.m. in New York.

Sales of previously owned homes would have been even weaker last month had it not been for gains the areas of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and Houston, reflecting demand from people displaced by Hurricane Katrina. The Realtors group said sales would have declined 3.2 percent in October to a 7.06 million pace excluding sales in response to the hurricane.

Median Price

``The housing sector has likely passed its peak,” said David Lereah, chief economist at the National Association of Realtors, during a press conference. ``The boom is winding down to an expansion. Housing activity is still healthy.”

The median price rose to $218,000 last month from $187,000 in October 2004, the Realtors’ group said. The year-over-year increase was the biggest since July 1979. The median price was $213,000 in September.

Sales of single-family homes fell 2.5 percent to a 6.23 million annual pace in October. Sales of condos and co-ops fell 4.4 percent to an 862,000 annual pace.

``The evidence keeps piling up that the housing market is slowing moderately,” said Scott Anderson, senior economist at Wells Fargo & Co. in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in an interview. ``We certainly think housing will weigh on GDP growth next year.”

Supply of Homes

Sales were lower in all four regions. They dropped 7.4 percent in the Northeast to a 1.12 million-unit pace, 1.9 percent in the Midwest to a rate of 1.58 million units, 1.8 percent in the South to 2.76 million units, and 1.2 percent in the West to 1.64 million units.

The supply of homes available for sale, another gauge of housing demand, rose to 2.87 million in October from 2.77 million. Supply represented 4.9 months’ worth at the current sales pace, up from 4.6 months’ worth the previous month.

The rate on a 30-year fixed mortgage averaged 6.07 percent in October, the highest monthly average since June 2004, from 5.77 percent a month earlier, according to Freddie Mac, the No. 2 purchaser of home loans behind Fannie Mae. The rate reached a two-year high of 6.37 percent two weeks ago.

Rising rates and higher prices caused the Realtors’ group affordability index to drop to 117.8 in the third quarter, the lowest since the third quarter of 1991. Still, figures greater than 100 suggest households have the income needed to purchase a property at the median home price.

Outlook for Growth

``The housing market had remained robust, although a slowing in house price gains in some areas and recent declines in home equity lending at banks could be indicating that the long-expected cooling in the housing market was near,” Federal Reserve policy makers said in the minutes of their Nov. 1 meeting released last week.

A more pronounced slowing in housing than most economists expect could be the catalyst for the central bank to lower their interest rate target in early 2007, according to economists at Goldman, Sachs & Co. in New York. The Fed targets the rate at which banks lend money to each other overnight, also called the federal funds rate.

A slowdown in housing could slice as much as 1.5 percentage points from economic growth in the next couple of years, according to a Nov. 18 report by Goldman Sachs economists Jan Hatzius and Monica Fuentes. ``This would probably be enough to persuade Fed officials to cut their federal funds target” in 2007, said Hatzius and Fuentes.

The risks to the economy posed by the housing market aren’t lost on Ben Bernanke, the White House nominee to succeed Alan Greenspan as Fed chairman.

Fed

A slowdown in housing prices that isn’t ``too sharp,” ``should be consistent with the modest cooling of growth that many forecasters expect over the next year or so,” Bernanke said last week in written responses to questions posed by Senator Jim Bunning, the lone Banking Committee member to vote against his nomination. A sharper slowdown, which he said is less likely, ``would have a larger effect on the growth of real output.”

``It’s not the beginning of the end as we see it,” said Joel Rassman, chief financial officer of Toll Brothers Inc., the largest U.S. builder of luxury homes, in a Nov. 14 interview. ``Most of our markets are strong. They’re just not as strong as last year.”

Earlier this month Toll lowered its forecast of the number of homes it will sell in fiscal 2006 to 9,500 to 10,200, from the 10,200 to 10,600 it projected on Aug. 25.

To contact the report on this story:
Carlos Torres in Washington at ctorres2@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: November 28, 2005 14:43 EST



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Congress Arrives at A Deal on Patriot Act

Limits Would Spare Some Controversial Government Powers

By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, November 17, 2005; A01
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/16
/AR2005111601047_pf.html

In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.

House and Senate negotiators reached a tentative agreement yesterday on revisions to the USA Patriot Act that would limit some of the government's powers while requiring the Justice Department to provide a better accounting of its secret requests for information on ordinary citizens.

But the agreement would leave intact some of the most controversial provisions of the anti-terrorism law, such as government access to library and bookstore records in terrorism probes, and would extend only limited new rights to the targets of such searches.

For President Bush, renewal of the act would provide a boost as he looks to restore his image as a strong commander in chief in combating terrorism. And Democrats said yesterday that the administration largely got what it wanted -- a major break after lawmakers challenged the White House in recent days on the conduct of the Iraq war, budget policies and tax cuts.

The deal would make permanent 14 Patriot Act provisions that were set to expire at the end of the year. Three other measures -- including one allowing law enforcement agents access to bookstore and public library records -- would be extended for seven years, or three years longer than the Senate had agreed to. The House initially extended the provisions for 10 years but later voted to accept the Senate's four-year extension.

Also extended for seven years is a provision allowing roving wiretaps that follow an individual who may use multiple means of communication, rather than targeting a single phone line. The agreement also extends for seven years a provision of a separate intelligence law passed last year that allows federal investigators to track an individual not connected to a foreign government but suspected of operating as a "lone wolf" terrorist.

The compromise would weaken a block of House-approved death penalty provisions that had elicited concern in the Senate and in legal circles. In the event that a jury could not agree to impose the death penalty on a convicted terrorist, House Judiciary Committee Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) had hoped to empower prosecutors to impanel a new jury. The deal also excludes a House proposal to allow a death penalty for terrorist offenses that "create grave risk of death."

The agreement does extend the federal death penalty to those who knowingly transport materials used in a deadly terrorist attack, those who help plot a deadly attack on a mass-transit system, and those who participate in a deadly attack on ships and maritime facilities.

Republicans and Democrats said the agreement is a victory for Sensenbrenner, who defended the expanded government powers enacted after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Civil libertarians and liberal Democrats lamented the deal as another blow to individual rights. And three Democratic senators and three GOP senators declared the agreement unacceptable last night.

"Is Congress standing up to the president? No, not on this one," said Rep. Jerrold Nadler (N.Y.), a House Judiciary Committee Democrat.

The agreement, which could go to final votes in the House and Senate before the end of the week, is Congress's first effort to revise the national security measure that became law just weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks. During last year's presidential campaign, the Patriot Act was elevated to a major political issue, showcased by Bush as a sign of strength in the face of terrorism but maligned by many Democrats as an abuse of power. Hundreds of local governments have passed resolutions decrying the law as an infringement of civil liberties.

When Congress turned to reauthorizing the measure this year, there were bipartisan calls for major changes. House and Senate negotiators have agreed to limit the government's powers in some areas, while rebuffing Bush administration requests for new subpoena powers.

But on balance, the compromise sides with a stronger government hand when terrorism investigations clash with civil liberties concerns.

But Congress does not look ready to hand Bush all of the sweeping powers it was willing to grant in 2001. Negotiators refused to back the administration's request for administrative subpoenas, which would have expanded the government's power to subpoena records without the approval of a judge or grand jury in terrorism investigations. Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) called that "a serious mistake," saying the government already has such powers to investigate non-security issues such as Medicare fraud.

"We can do it for a dirty doctor but not a dirty bomber," he said.

While the government would retain access to library, bookstore and business records, the FBI would face new limits on the retention and dissemination of such information.

The compromise also places new controls on the FBI's use of "national security letters," which require companies to provide private information about their customers and to keep the request secret. The Patriot Act allowed the FBI to use such letters on any citizen it deemed relevant to a national security investigation, even if the target is not suspected of any wrong-doing.

A Nov. 6 article in The Washington Post revealed that loosened restrictions in the Patriot Act helped boost the annual use of such letters 100-fold, to more than 30,000 a year from about 300 before the Sept. 11 attacks.

Under the compromise, the Justice Department would have to disclose the number of requests it made for information concerning different targeted people in the United States, but not including the communications subscriber information that makes up the bulk of such requests.

Those who receive such letters would be allowed to consult a lawyer and challenge the requests under a new judicial review process.

But critics said those controls were more cosmetic than real. A recipient wishing to reveal only the receipt of a security letter would have to prove that disclosure would not harm national security or diplomatic relations or endanger any lives or public safety, while the government can merely assert disclosure would have those effects.

Staff writer Dan Eggen contributed to this report.

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JUDICIAL WATCH ON CHENEY TASK FORCE DOCUMENTS
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL: ANALYSIS OF THE PROCEEDINGS LEADING TO THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION'S FORMULATION OF ITS MAY 2001 ENERGY POLICY
FTW: THE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVING ROOM
Document Says Oil Chiefs Met With Cheney Task Force

By Dana Milbank and Justin Blum
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, November 16, 2005; A01
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/15
/AR2005111501842_pf.html

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A White House document shows that executives from big oil companies met with Vice President Cheney's energy task force in 2001 -- something long suspected by environmentalists but denied as recently as last week by industry officials testifying before Congress.

The document, obtained this week by The Washington Post, shows that officials from Exxon Mobil Corp., Conoco (before its merger with Phillips), Shell Oil Co. and BP America Inc. met in the White House complex with the Cheney aides who were developing a national energy policy, parts of which became law and parts of which are still being debated.

In a joint hearing last week of the Senate Energy and Commerce committees, the chief executives of Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp. and ConocoPhillips said their firms did not participate in the 2001 task force. The president of Shell Oil said his company did not participate "to my knowledge," and the chief of BP America Inc. said he did not know.

Chevron was not named in the White House document, but the Government Accountability Office has found that Chevron was one of several companies that "gave detailed energy policy recommendations" to the task force. In addition, Cheney had a separate meeting with John Browne, BP's chief executive, according to a person familiar with the task force's work; that meeting is not noted in the document.

The task force's activities attracted complaints from environmentalists, who said they were shut out of the task force discussions while corporate interests were present. The meetings were held in secret and the White House refused to release a list of participants. The task force was made up primarily of Cabinet-level officials. Judicial Watch and the Sierra Club unsuccessfully sued to obtain the records.

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), who posed the question about the task force, said he will ask the Justice Department today to investigate. "The White House went to great lengths to keep these meetings secret, and now oil executives may be lying to Congress about their role in the Cheney task force," Lautenberg said.

Lea Anne McBride, a spokeswoman for Cheney, declined to comment on the document. She said that the courts have upheld "the constitutional right of the president and vice president to obtain information in confidentiality."

The executives were not under oath when they testified, so they are not vulnerable to charges of perjury; committee Democrats had protested the decision by Commerce Chairman Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) not to swear in the executives. But a person can be fined or imprisoned for up to five years for making "any materially false, fictitious or fraudulent statement or representation" to Congress.

Alan Huffman, who was a Conoco manager until the 2002 merger with Phillips, confirmed meeting with the task force staff. "We met in the Executive Office Building, if I remember correctly," he said.

A spokesman for ConocoPhillips said the chief executive, James J. Mulva, had been unaware that Conoco officials met with task force staff when he testified at the hearing. The spokesman said that Mulva was chief executive of Phillips in 2001 before the merger and that nobody from Phillips met with the task force.

Exxon spokesman Russ Roberts said the company stood by chief executive Lee R. Raymond's statement in the hearing. In a brief phone interview, former Exxon vice president James Rouse, the official named in the White House document, denied the meeting took place. "That must be inaccurate and I don't have any comment beyond that," said Rouse, now retired.

Ronnie Chappell, a spokesman for BP, declined to comment on the task force meetings. Darci Sinclair, a spokeswoman for Shell, said she did not know whether Shell officials met with the task force, but they often meet members of the administration. Chevron said its executives did not meet with the task force but confirmed that it sent President Bush recommendations in a letter.

The person familiar with the task force's work, who requested anonymity out of concern about retribution, said the document was based on records kept by the Secret Service of people admitted to the White House complex. This person said most meetings were with Andrew Lundquist, the task force's executive director, and Cheney aide Karen Y. Knutson.

According to the White House document, Rouse met with task force staff members on Feb. 14, 2001. On March 21, they met with Archie Dunham, who was chairman of Conoco. On April 12, according to the document, task force staff members met with Conoco official Huffman and two officials from the U.S. Oil and Gas Association, Wayne Gibbens and Alby Modiano.

On April 17, task force staff members met with Royal Dutch/Shell Group's chairman, Sir Mark Moody-Stuart, Shell Oil chairman Steven Miller and two others. On March 22, staff members met with BP regional president Bob Malone, chief economist Peter Davies and company employees Graham Barr and Deb Beaubien.

Toward the end of the hearing, Lautenberg asked the five executives: "Did your company or any representatives of your companies participate in Vice President Cheney's energy task force in 2001?" When there was no response, Lautenberg added: "The meeting . . . "

"No," said Raymond.

"No," said Chevron Chairman David J. O'Reilly.

"We did not, no," Mulva said.

"To be honest, I don't know," said BP America chief executive Ross Pillari, who came to the job in August 2001. "I wasn't here then."

"But your company was here," Lautenberg replied.

"Yes," Pillari said.

Shell Oil president John Hofmeister, who has held his job since earlier this year, answered last. "Not to my knowledge," he said.

Research editor Lucy Shackelford contributed to this report.

© 2005 The Washington Post Company

11/29/2005 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Thunderbolt 2012 said...

Whoops !
Sorry, I put in more stuff than what I intended !

11/29/2005 11:25:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

I heard TS Epsilon's formed

11/29/2005 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

TB2012,

Not to worry. What you posted gave a great picture of what is going on.

11/29/2005 11:50:00 AM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

Crypt0, been trying to catch up for the last good few hours, every time mi go 2 post someting, someone has added something else equally inspiring (except John, who's slow growth is not ceasing to amaze me...).



This was inspired Crypt0;

"crypt0 said...
Britain feared super-cultures and the US fears ET ...
Wall Street capitalists always had the ringer turned down
They knew that if & when ET calls
They alone HAD to be the one to answer the phone
and they probably did
but it appears that ET hung up and tried another number !!
Now, the elitists are surplus to ET's requirements ...
Maybe they'll have to work for a living
instead of laying around jacking it and watching TV !!
I hear McDonald's is hiring !!!!
{help me out here Jas - this is rich !!!}"


As it's noted down in lifes general instruction morality guide, from The HD Supreme's scribblings; Love thy neighbour was a hard ting to do for a rich man.

Simply put, it's not the riches, it's the ones lusting after more and greeding over want...


The LOVE of MONEY is the ROOT of ALL EVIL...


Riches themselves are neutral, the question asked at the prevous bar(blog) we were just at, before winds of surfing proportions decended on this sweet paradise of St Kitt's and distracted this already addicted wave head, with larger more stormy gusts of the weathers finest compressive pushing pressures...

See I can even distract my own distraction...

any way, it's taken ages to catch up, and I like this fast pace SunKing.


The bible has been part of my growing up life. Used as a weapon of torturing guilt, on my adolecent pubecency, then cajoled around a instrument of torture and control; in my teen adult growing years, as a means to wield prophecy over my heaven/hell future...


The conspiricies have always abounded, but to us, in this modern age, ever more so, we are mere pawns (as has been pointed out earlier) in this game of elites.

5% of the worlds population, gets to 'shape', OUR reality.

Get REAL PEOPLE WAKE UP.

How free is your democracy? how free is your freedom, are you truly free?

Are you free enough to go smoke a Joint of 3.33 inches outside of your designated outside tabacco inhalation areas in your Goverment or work buildings or even in times square?


Why not?


The conspiracy is, that Cannabis Sativa (and indica Bio_U), is easy to grow in the tropics, and no meter can be placed between user and seeds.

So no CA$H dollars for a Pharmacutical company... or the STock Market...


Cures do not make $$$'$


Remedies and symptom treaters do...

Therefore, cures are not profitable say the prophetical...


Growing up a JW (Jehovah's Witness), I observed my parents constant obsession with the conspiricies that seemed to exist everywhere.

The Watchtower would always be pointing out the glaring faults in the Catholic Churches teachings etc...

So when, looking now deeply back at the WatchTower Bible & Tract Society with regards to the United Nations Scandal, I observe more lies deciet and Conspiracy...

We are living in Troubled times...

Conspiracy should NOT BE THE ORDER OF THE DAY AND NORMAL!!!

We should all be free to know the TRUTH!!!

The truth will set us free...

So I am free of the 'CULT' of the WatchTower Bible and Tract Sociey!

Free, in the knowledge that 2Thes 2:1-12 lies a simple understandable answer...

Why would a GOD OF LOVE, only preserve the misled JW's?


Why would a supposed 'people' of 'love' believe that ONLY JW'S will make it?

Doesn't the bible say that the law for Gods True Children is not written down in stone tablets, but in the very hearts of his servants.

Jw's are wicked evil and disseminating lies and false teachings...


Some of the TRUTH is in there... but not one of them observe it...

THEY CALL UNCLEAN THAT WHICH GOD SAYS IS CLEAN!!!

Cannabis Sativa WATHCHTOWER BIBLE AND BULL SH!T company!!!

United Nations 1991 to 2001 WTBSh!t pushers.

Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, YOU ARE FIRED!!!


sigh, good ranting space SunKing...

I agree with the statement, kneel before NO MAN!!!

Jesus, was born a JEW and was not a Christian. He called GOD his heavenly father and preached NO RELIGION...

JUST A MESSAGE, keep on the watch etc.

The message was simple, there's gonna be a time when that smart genius of human Agape Compassion, was gonna show up again...


This time badderer and not planning to get another advanced carpentry lesson from the blood thirsty scribes and pharasees!

The man, walked as a WORD of GOD, Channeled from his thoughts were GOD's TEACHING of Selfless Love, spiritual non sexual love.

AGAPE LOVE, GOD LIKE LOVE

Altruistic Love.

The love with want of no return.

Can a Rich Man, truly love his neighbour?


Asking a simple, could I give him as much as all of it, should I need to?

Leaves the simple answer, that it is up the Rich man and how he views Riches, if he can enter the paradise and peace of mind... a God like quality...

Pure hearts and clean minds... And above all be TRUTH SEEKING.


I'm seeing so many 3 THREE coincidences on media channels, either the signal 3 syncronising pulse is getting stronger or I'm just tuned into Sessame Street...


DjB, I liked your 333mg I'm Ageddon it pic... also truly inspired :)


Right as the winds have died down a little and I can get a word in Blog wise, I thought I'd do some catching up, and grok some of ya input...

to respond with mi own pointy stick of herbal wisdom... set to [grok]...

11/29/2005 12:10:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Here's a link to actual geomagnetics

http://swdcwww.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/wdc/outline.html

11/29/2005 12:12:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Perhaps, as some others were seemingly considering, Richard was hinting that the Japanese in their own language were reporting different or more detailed information than in the english version?

More of the specifically American filtering and obfuscation.

It reminded me of the story of Dr. David Suzuki and his peers making complaint in Australia at a press release about Larsen's Ledge and its inevetable brake off. Their key chastisement was the U.S. not conveying the information to the larger public as many other 1st world countries were rightly doing.

It is truly madening for many to see such an inherently decent country, being so tainted and acting in such stupidity, in the face of some of this world's most respected thinkers and the requirement to do what is openly right.
Will the vast majority of intelligent American's rise up and squish this current Psychosis of the present Governing body?
Living next door in Canada, we have seen the extent of their foolishness with regards to us in a variety of areas.

Here's a good example:
Martin lectures Bush at international summit on U.S. protectionism

BUSAN, South Korea (CP) - Prime Minister Paul Martin used an international summit to lecture U.S. President George W. Bush about protectionism on softwood lumber Friday, labelling it a threat to global free trade.

In a four-country leaders' meeting during the Asia-Pacific summit, Martin told Bush that U.S. tariffs on lumber send a warning to smaller countries considering trade deals with Washington. Martin intervened as the leaders of Canada, U.S., Mexico and Peru discussed building a Free Trade Area of the Americas and knocking down trade barriers at the World Trade Organization.

He argued that American behaviour in the softwood dispute runs contrary to its goal of liberalized trade.

"Look, if the higher good of the United States is to have a free trade agreement of the Americas or free trade here (in the Pacific Rim) people are going to look askance if those agreements - once signed - are not honoured," is how Martin summed up his message.

"I told him, 'The problem you Americans have is if you can't agree with your best ally - Canada - and you have the same problem with Mexico, how are you going to convince the rest of Latin America that it's a good idea?' "

He said U.S. softwood tariffs violate the spirit of free trade and leaders will be leery of liberalized trade if the Americans don't honour the agreements they already have.

"We're not going to have free trade of the Americas if that's the precedent that's been established, we're not going to have free trade throughout the Asia-Pacific if that's what occurs. Nor indeed are we going to have a successful WTO round."

Complete story at:
http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/051118/w111820.html

Just the tip of the iceberg...

11/29/2005 12:25:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Unipax,

Hey tropical buddy! Guess what, the weather here has gone a little crazy.
We went from 20F and lots of snow to 60F? 17Celcius overnight and now its raining, biblical like, with grass showing and all snow gone!

Oyee my sinuses!! This is where a fashion crisis comes from as well. lol :)
Happy horses though.. ;)

11/29/2005 12:32:00 PM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

That would be true bubba Hyde,

"Not to worry. What you posted gave a great picture of what is going on."

but SunKing's Peckerhead Trophy is getting dusty on the awards shelf, he's looking for another 'winner', you know that SunKing has a hair trigger finger on that B-SHOD ting hi hi hi...

"Thunderbolt 2012 said...
Whoops !
Sorry, I put in more stuff than what I intended !"


And the goverment approved caffiene must be too strong in Johns Morning mix,

Yes Trpical Storm Epsilon in the Gulf, anyone for swhirly fruit PI...?

11/29/2005 12:35:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

The used home market is down 3% from record highs of 7 million. The usual expectation in this market was 4 million. It has changed to a buyers market based on the slowdown but it does not indicate that a 6% mortgage rate being one third of the highs in recent past has dampened market expectations.

11/29/2005 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

IonTru02, is that normal?

17 degree shift, does that happen a lot up there?

I've been observing the weather channel reporting something like 30 degree changes in less than 48 hours in quite a few places...


Apocolyptic Meterological Thermostat has just 'pinged', Epsilon says it's ready...

11/29/2005 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Reading more of Bearden.. It's like living in a world of comic book heroes and he documents everything he says with newpaper, bibliography and checked facts.

I went through the weather manipulation chapter which had some extraordinary pix of chemtrails with spirals etc but he doesn't say "why" they are doing them. He shows emp weaponry at work in the clouds and explains why there has to be two trails side by side to effect whatever.
Then it gets strange. It's very difficult physics even for someone like me who thinks everything the Education system was teaching was propaganda. He talks about disabling mechanical devices like a revolver mechanism using Star Trek teck and cloaking "anything" (Iapetus?) to make it appear invisible. Yahhhhhhhhhhhh...LOL
He documents. What can I say?

11/29/2005 12:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Monkey Wrench said...

DarkWood,

Heiser did the correct analysis of the words Elohim and Nephilim in a PDF probably still found on Heisers site. It is correct, if compared to the body of ancient literature of most past races, all showing that Eloheim and Nephilim could not be humans, people or anything like that. They could have been the traditional Archetype of cosmology. An Archetype is a precursor form of the fully manifested life form, which is the way forms develope. It is involved with isomerism, concomitant developement and henotheism.

Another question has recently surfaced and it is directed toward Heisers PDF analysis. The question casts doubt upon the supposed modern dictionary used to interpret the Hebrew language used in the PDF's. This may be a misapplied question which might have been correctly applied to another researcher, William Henry, in his use of that said, modern dictionary. However, the doubt was raised against Heiser and I will not be sure until it is solved. If you have any intelligence to add about the Heiser PDF's, it would be appriciated.

In any case, a reading of Quartum Organum will solve the riddle. Heiser, if correct in his Eloheim and Nephilim analysis, is much closer than the others.

Monkey Wrench

11/29/2005 12:50:00 PM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

IonTruO2 said...

Perhaps, as some others were seemingly considering, Richard was hinting that the Japanese in their own language were reporting different or more detailed information than in the english version?

starshipconstellation said: Precisely! That is exactly what I'm thinking linking to an original language site is all about.

I'm also experiencing 30 degree weather shifts. Yesterday it was 70, today it's 40 with howling Gothic novel class winds. This is not exactly normal even for a place where people say "dont like the weather? wait five minutes." So now we have Epsilon, just as long as its not Tropical Storm Omega!

11/29/2005 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

Hold up a minute;

da ships monkey has just learned on one of it's many keyboards, how to spell it's chosen moniker, correctly!

Monkey Wrench oooKed... ~ something or other...

11/29/2005 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

"...just as long as its not Tropical Storm Omega!"


...nnnnnNobody expects Tropical Storm 'Omega'...

These shall be the 33 storms of the Apocolyptic season, the First of these paradigm shifting weather anomalies will be called Alpha...no wait, Arlene, the first of these shall be cal...

etc...


10th Dec, 2005...

What could possibly happen, that would wow us now?... hi hi hi

11/29/2005 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous other side of the pacific said...

to Crypt0: Been wanting to say this for a long time, now's as good as any.

In Asia, the Interlocking BOD is alive and well, thank you.

These "nominated members" are usually minor politicians put in place to make a soft (if not in-your-face) takeover of lucrative businesses by Government Linked companies (ultimately controlled by the ruling political party). Refusal to accept these parasites will lead to disastrous consequences for the owners.

There can be hilarious results; one (incompetent dummy) guy was actually on more than 70 boards. But no one dares ask why, because it may be the reason to have one's income tax records for the past 20 years being re-checked again and hauled to court, or worse, to be sued for hundreds of thousands of US dollars for slander (lese majeste, more like it)

But make no mistake; the tentacles of Big(ger) Brother have sunk well and deep in corporate Asia. Private business are slowly being killed by these (interlocked) companies. Your worst fears are confirmed.

11/29/2005 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

jasgrave333 said...
...nnnnnNobody expects Tropical Storm 'Omega'...

These shall be the 33 storms of the Apocolyptic season, the First of these paradigm shifting weather anomalies will be called Alpha...no wait, Arlene, the first of these shall be cal...

etc...

starshipconstellation said: Ah, rather a bit like expecting the Spanish Inquistion and knowing when to pull the pin on the Holy Hand Grenade! LOL.

11/29/2005 01:39:00 PM  
Blogger djbarney said...

Jasgrave333 :-)
> [Jasgrave publicly berrates me for simulation crash] (sorry lost the
copy/paste Jas ! :-/ )

I DO crash simulated Star-Ships!..Remember 'Day of the Triffids' where
we meet this guy who has crashed numerous helicopters trying to learn
how to fly them (for want of a teacher after the triffids strike)...?

You should see my driving skills someday...and I've had to develop some
pretty hardcore emotional survival tactics as well.

My cousin has intervened ! I now have some kind of feeling, rational
person to talk to who does'nt go off with his tail bewtween his legs
everytime the word 'mental health' is mentioned ! :->

Things are somewhat better now. It's all been a bit like a sci-fi
episode where the planet the ship is visiting has a culture hiding
many unspoken government/healthcare practices that are accepted as
'just the way we do things'. Contact the right factions, though, and
you might get the real story ;-)

Drinks were ordered, discussions were had, futures were alluded to.
My cousin is moving to Japan ! So 'new starts' were definetely in
the air :-)

Now, when I recover from this shock.... :-)

John said...
> Djbarney, I'm an avid Trekkie. The only episodes I WON'T watch are the ones > with the Borg in them (I saw "Star Trek: First Contact" in the theater back > in 1997, and I STILL haven't completely gotten over that. I had nightmares > for years)

I find re-modulating the phaser output to a satirical frequency and seeing
borg as the perfect group mind of the UK's New Labour government unmasks
borg cloak harmonics.
Cherie Blair is the Borg Queen and Tony is an assimilated drone from some
strange previous hippy existence, at college, with long hair. :-|

thunderbolt 2012 said...
> but the presently accepted versions of the fundamentalist Protestant bibles > do not contain them , supposedly because they don't talk about God and
> miracles and Jesus and are therefore not "spiritually inspired".

From my non-denominational perspective I currently see the Christ story
as a kind of 'alternate' main thread to the bible with the 'real' stuff
actually being about a philosophy of life, clues about the true workings
of the body and consciousness, and generally a whole different perspective
on that text that, I guess, has come to be known as "the bible code".

Anonymous said...
> Now THATS a tickling stick!
> Sword

http://www.swordsofhonor.com/baresw.html

John said...
> That sounds VERY similar to something I heard in church about the greatest > trick Satan plays on us is convincing us that he doesn't exist, because
> THAT'S when he does his worst...

John, John, john...let's sit down in a corner and talk :-}
I regard the shenanigans of the anti-depressant pharmaceutical
industries as the most immaculate deception imaginable.
I regard satan as a concept, though, not some firey figure.
Your analogy stands though. Not many seem to even have any
apprehension that anti-depressants might hey, damage
you. Could they get it so badly wrong ? It seems so.

Crypt0 said...
> Call it Democracy

Think of Tony-Blair's-Iraq in front of those archers
in Gladiator instead of the corrupt emperor (and
you may get the picture), therefore proving he is
insane (by moving in front of the fully pulled archers,
that is),..?=>

djbarney

11/29/2005 01:42:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

hey guys-
wow, mucho prolific today I however am not.

Keep all the good stuff coming.

great post Sunking. Hope to comment soon

scar

11/29/2005 01:46:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Monkey Wrench,
Hi. re: Elohim and Nfl, what you indicate may be true, but if there is any truth to be gleaned from the various writings (in AND out of The Bible) and that they did produce offspring, then there MUST have been some pretty close genetic matches. But then I have always thought that there was a difference, and that the reason 'god' was mad at them was because there were some 'defective' offspring in the mix and not just giants. God and the biblical prophets seemed to focus a lot on 'the blood', and if the Elo and NFL screwed up the works...well, it would make even a 'god' angry! eh?

Hi Scarletm...been wondering about you and glad to see ya!

11/29/2005 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous other side of the pacific said...

sunking said: God and the biblical prophets seemed to focus a lot on 'the blood', and if the Elo and NFL screwed up the works...well, it would make even a 'god' angry! eh?


Here's a thought:

What if the elohim and nifilim were time-travelling spacemen from the 22nd century? (ala planet of the apes, but in an armada of shems instead of a re-entry capsule)

11/29/2005 01:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Thunderbolt 2012 said...

In all fairness, I must accept the Peckerhead Trophy for my mess above.
Here are some guys who need a visit from an FSHOD...with all capabilities enabled !


November 29, 2005 -- British mercenary firm with Pentagon contracts exposed in civilian shooting incident in Iraq. A souvenir video has surfaced on the Internet showing private security contractors working for Aegis Defense Services "Victory" Group firing indiscriminately at Iraqi civilian motorists in Baghdad. The video was reportedly taken by an Aegis employee and posted on a web site run by an ex-Aegis employee. The video has since been removed from the site. The video contains four clips showing Aegis mercenaries firing at civilian automobiles. The video's soundtrack includes Elvis Presley's "Train I Ride." Aegis is run by former British Scots Guard officer Lt. Col. Tim Spicer, an international mercenary who has been involved in UN sanctions busting in Sierra Leone and Bougainville invasion planning in Papua New Guinea. Spicer's firm, Aegis, was awarded a $293 million security contract in Iraq. Spicer's men also stand accused of shooting teenager Peter McBride in the back in Belfast in 1992. That has prompted a number of members of the Irish Caucus in the Congress to demand the Pentagon withdraw its contract to Aegis. The Pentagon has rejected such action.

Aegis maintains its head office in London's Picadilly. It is also reported to have an office on K Street in Washington, DC.

The Pentagon has had a longstanding relationship with Spicer. The Pentagon's love affair with mercenary firms began in the 1990s when they were viewed with favor for their military activities, including sanctions busting, in Africa. Under the Clinton administration, mercenary firms blossomed. Under George W. Bush, they have flourished. On June 24, 1997, the Defense Intelligence Agency sponsored a seminar titled "The Privatization of National Security Functions in Sub-Saharan Africa." This conference ushered in the present cooperation between mercenaries, oil companies, diamond and other mineral companies, U.S. intelligence agencies, the military, and non-government organizations (NGOs), including the always suspect Human Rights Watch, an NGO that often obscures and obfuscates important facts, as it did with the causality of the Rwandan genocide and as it is currently doing with regard to offering an incomplete list of CIA prisoner aircraft in Europe.

WMR has obtained the attendee list [Page One Page Two] for the 1997 Pentagon mercenary seminar. Spicer attended along with two colleagues from Sandline International (for which Spicer served as CEO), a mercenary firm that had already been implicated in illegal Sierra Leone and Papua New Guinea operations.

Mercenary firms, which in neo-con "Newspeak" are referred to as "Private Military Contractors," "Private Security Contractors (PSCs), and Personal Security Details/Detachments (PSDs), are viewed by informed observers as the future military forces that will continue to protect US business interests in Iraq after the planned withdrawal of a large number of U.S. troops next year. These companies are not governed by any military regulations or international legal constraints. According to informed sources within the security contractor community, three U.S. firms, Phoenix, Anteon, and Sytex, should be looked at closely by U.S. authorities for their interrogation operations in Iraq. Sytex is currently advertising for interrogators for the US Central Command's Area of Responsibility (AOR), which includes Iraq and Afghanistan. Military interrogators who were charged with sexually humiliating prisoners at Guantanamo and Iraq are now working for firms like Anteon and Phoenix Consulting Group.

11/29/2005 02:09:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

OSOTP,
Well, yes...and isn't that what Sitchin basically said? They were only 'gods' to the homo sapiens who were no doubt trained to worship El and Nfl as goods to keep em in line.

11/29/2005 02:18:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

ewwwwwwwwww.....I read that wrong, OSOTP!


Why would they come back and do all that? Was the alternative reality even WORSE?

11/29/2005 02:19:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

TB2012,
These private firms, composed mostly of US Government trained people, are the perfect pawns to enable governments to have plausible deniability. While Herr Rumsfield can get on TV and say "US troops are not engaging in torture", the private operators, working hand i hand with our troops, are doing the dirty work. So while technically true and not a lie by Herr Rummy or others, the spirit of the law is being broken.

The foreign people just see two American looking guys and hate us all the more.

Amazing how stupid the American people are being.

11/29/2005 02:26:00 PM  
Blogger unipax said...

Hello iontru0!
Thanks for interesting weather report1
You asked;
My nagging question is: If 911 in the New york example was a planned "Demolition" of sorts. then to what end? Just an easier eviction? Like New Orleans.
Why would they want to down those various buildings?
<
Possible reasons;

* Make fear, make enemy, make war, make money.
* Insurance pay-off to Larry Silverstein, worth over a billion.
uni

11/29/2005 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

jasgrave333,
you said...
IonTru02, is that normal?

17 degree shift, does that happen a lot up there?

I've been observing the weather channel reporting something like 30 degree changes in less than 48 hours in quite a few places...


Apocolyptic Meterological Thermostat has just 'pinged', Epsilon says it's ready...

11/29/2005 12:39:35 PM

IonTruO2-->Not too often but it has occurred. But today feels a little strange, and its a bit late for Indian Summer.
I had heard a story a few years ago, that one of the reasons we Canadians were "respected" in the world in general, wasn't because of the misquitos or other factures like politics or politeness but because of our radical weather that we are able to handle. It was a flexible hardiness thing. Go figure?!
I have personally experienced going from 28C(HOT!) to -28C(superf'ing cold!) in 12 hours.



starshipconstellation said...
IonTruO2 said...

Perhaps, as some others were seemingly considering, Richard was hinting that the Japanese in their own language were reporting different or more detailed information than in the english version?

starshipconstellation
you said: Precisely! That is exactly what I'm thinking linking to an original language site is all about.

I'm also experiencing 30 degree weather shifts. Yesterday it was 70, today it's 40 with howling Gothic novel class winds. This is not exactly normal even for a place where people say "dont like the weather? wait five minutes." So now we have Epsilon, just as long as its not Tropical Storm Omega!


iontruo--> Where are you? I know what you mean about the winds!
We are spared that this week but last week was fierce!! Wish I was a horse weighing 1300lbs.

Gotcha, on the Japanese angle! Richard is a clever man and perhaps we may glean an insight there with the translation avenue.
I am certain his first pic was to show an archeological artifact poking out the ground dead center of the shot. Its so blatant, all I did was just magnify about three times. His first link which was to english also had a few well chosen words that caught me. Lets be vigilent and see what comes.

11/29/2005 03:00:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Additional thought:

Considering so much of what we are seeing now seems to be relating in some way to Electromagnetics and EM devices and weather control by EM, here is a link to a report pertaining to an EMP attack strategy. In it there is also a section on the geo-magnetic storm in 1989 that took out Quebec's hydro.

Worth a read perhaps:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/congress/2004_r/04-07-22emp.pdf

11/29/2005 03:05:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Unipax,
you said...
Hello iontru02!
Thanks for interesting weather report.
You asked;
My nagging question is: If 911 in the New york example was a planned "Demolition" of sorts. then to what end? Just an easier eviction? Like New Orleans.
Why would they want to down those various buildings?
<
Possible reasons;

* Make fear, make enemy, make war, make money.
* Insurance pay-off to Larry Silverstein, worth over a billion.
uni

11/29/2005 02:55:53 PM

IonTruO2--wouldn't that be the ultimate! If it was nothing more than an insurance scam!!! Money mongering at its lowest.
Did he own building 7 also? Talk about forced eviction. Oh yes, a building opportunity!! More money!! (use accent) :)
I also had a hunch from day 1 that Y2K was nothing more than a prep before to "move" data off site. To get everyone to back up their systems.

11/29/2005 03:12:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

The WTC was scheduled for demolition during the Silverstein lease read lease agreement. I believe it was 2025. His insurance kick back was to cover the losses over the "lease period."

11/29/2005 03:18:00 PM  
Blogger bryansail said...

Lots of threads here that I'm enjoying, wish I had more time right now.
I checked the link intruo2, thanks. It lends credibility to exactly
what Bearden is saying, that the U.S. is very vulnerable to an attack
which would bring down the grid.

Here's something that I have to mention. This morning at work, guy
from engineering dept. calls tells me to come over right away. He had
been on the roof watching contrails being made when he noticed a glimmer
over near one of the trails, following a trail were 2 disc (elongated
like footballs) I'm going to talk w/ him more after lunch for a better
description. I can attest to him being visibly excited by what he'd
just seen. He used the word 'incredible' etc. as well. I realize now
though that I need him to go over it again. There are trails here,
fanning out in all directions. Long range forcast calling for rain
on the weekend. Air quality here taking a huge turn for the worse
as the day w/ odd chemtrails progresses. I'll post more about the 2
lighted circles following the contrail making plane. I have no reason
to not believe that he saw something very unusual. -Bryan

11/29/2005 03:20:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Here is the link to the lease.. go figure...

http://www.panynj.gov/pr/68-01.html

11/29/2005 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

ericswan,

Is there a link to the actual lease agreement? The link you provided is a press release.

11/29/2005 03:47:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

ericswan
you said...
The WTC was scheduled for demolition during the Silverstein lease read lease agreement. I believe it was 2025. His insurance kick back was to cover the losses over the "lease period."

11/29/2005 03:18:10 PM


iontruo2--> Now isn't that interesting!! Didn't know that. Your saying it actually says that it was slated for Demolition?!?!

They sure seem to like that year 2025, it keeps popping up. Maybe in advance of 2012, he thought he would "cash out" and get ready. Being that New York is in a generally vulnerable place for tsunamis and incoming really big rocks!
Thanks for the link.



bryansail
you said...
Lots of threads here that I'm enjoying, wish I had more time right now.
I checked the link intruo2, thanks. It lends credibility to exactly what Bearden is saying, that the U.S. is very vulnerable to an attack which would bring down the grid.

iontruo2--> Very good point. Attack becomes a bit of a messy term as well. It could mean quite a number of things. Thus my thought on EM issues all together.
From that article if anyone is interested, I tuned into a reference to the "North American Reliability Councel" NERC, which does at first glance appear to be about electricity but I'm studying further. Remember "hiding in plane sight".
http://www.nerc.com/

I'm curious if much of this weather recently is to "blanket" us with cloud cover, diffusing built up excess energy in the system through the rain, with wind as an indicator?
Perhaps some atmospheric sheilding?
I know there is no major solar eruptions going on but we had previously seen reference to a new kind of wavelength coming in and goodness the ozone is as holey as Swiss Cheese. My feeling recently was I could hardly remember a day in three weeks that was clear sky with straight sunshine and we get some pretty clear days here usually.
This is just thinking out loud, with a twist of hunches, but I felt it good food for our considerations.

11/29/2005 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

hey bubba..lease here..hehehehehe

http://www.9-11commission.gov/

11/29/2005 04:33:00 PM  
Blogger Cory said...

I have to say guys, I'm pretty pissed off at Richard. There are really only a few excuses for dropping completely off the Radar like this and most of them involve DEATH in some way.

I mean the guy knows he has this HUGE audience, right? He brags about it all the time. He knows many of the people around here think everything that happens in the world is some type of conspiracy. He knows that we have been into some GIANT discussions lately, and he also knows that he has left us hanging with many of his own posts.

So what gives? Why is someone updating the main website, but cannot post a litte message such as "Richard is on Vacation". Seriously it would take the guy all of 30 seconds to post a little message saying "hey, i'm alive, tied up in serious business, get back to you all later, stay tuned!"

When you foster a large audience like this, a certain amount of responsibility comes long with it. Richard has seriously dropped the ball and has showed me how unimportant the work we all do here really is to him. He has left me no other alternative but to think this way.

11/29/2005 04:35:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

68-01: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE , April 26, 2001


PORT AUTHORITY TO LEASE WORLD TRADE CENTER TO SILVERSTEIN PROPERTIES, INC. AND WESTFIELD AMERICA, INC.

Governor George E. Pataki said, “When I became Governor, one of my first goals was privatization of this world-famous symbol of the vitality and economic might of the New York region. I am proud to announce that my administration has delivered. This is the largest real estate transaction in New York City history, and one of the largest privatizations ever of a government asset. This agreement allows the private sector to bring its expertise to managing this landmark, and it frees Port Authority resources for improvements in airports, tunnels and bridges and other parts of the region’s transportation network.”

Acting Governor Donald T. DiFrancesco said, "The net lease of the World Trade Center will allow the Port Authority to maintain its revenue stream from the complex, while helping the agency to refocus on the transportation and trade projects in both states that constitute its primary mission

bryansail
iontruo2---> That is a very coincidental bit of timing don't ya think?
I'm a bit surprised that hasn't come up in a bigger way to investigate?
I have also seen some odd struggles with regards to a "Port Authority" in Toronto, Canada in relating to the powers of the City and the Mayor to revitalize the lake shore.
Thanks again Bryan!

11/29/2005 04:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Thunderbolt 2012 said...

IontruO2,
There was a lot of stuff about the WTC transactions in Michael Ruppert's book, "Crossing the Rubicon".

11/29/2005 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Thunderbolt 2012 said...

Cory said...
I have to say guys, I'm pretty pissed off at Richard...
-----------------------------------
Cory,
I know how you feel. Right now, there does not seem to be an indication that he has a serious illness, unless he does and doesn't want anybody to know about it. From the nature of the updates on TEM, I am starting to wonder if maybe Robin is taking care of it for him.
Then, there is always the possibility that he has been "brought into the fold". He may have seen the light and decided to run for some political office as a republican. If that is the case, they may require him to undergo some kind of "purification" whereby he needs to keep his hands off the blog and not be associated with it (and us "Bush bashers") in any way, making only mainstream comments about space exploration and , last but not least, say and think NICE thoughts about Dubya.

11/29/2005 05:01:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Cory said...
I have to say guys, I'm pretty pissed off at Richard. There are really only a few excuses for dropping completely off the Radar like this and most of them involve DEATH in some way.

I mean the guy knows he has this HUGE audience, right? He brags about it all the time. He knows many of the people around here think everything that happens in the world is some type of conspiracy. He knows that we have been into some GIANT discussions lately, and he also knows that he has left us hanging with many of his own posts.

So what gives? Why is someone updating the main website, but cannot post a litte message such as "Richard is on Vacation". Seriously it would take the guy all of 30 seconds to post a little message saying "hey, i'm alive, tied up in serious business, get back to you all later, stay tuned!"

When you foster a large audience like this, a certain amount of responsibility comes long with it. Richard has seriously dropped the ball and has showed me how unimportant the work we all do here really is to him. He has left me no other alternative but to think this way.

11/29/2005 04:35:04 PM


IonTruO2--I hear ya brother!! If we can post many replies in mere seconds, what gives? Thats partly why I sensed something else at play. It could be Richard is shallow and self serving, but I don't get that feeling. Its just my insight, but following a few series of postings at that time, I was brought to wonder if we started getting a little TOO close to the Way of things. It also would not be the first time these fellows have been threatened or worse, so I stayed with my gut on the notion he was silenced by someone or something. It was far too abrupt and sudden in mid momentum with the Blog. No sign of a trickle off of his interest, just blam, gone.
Was it SWORD, Naudin, Bearden, Chenier? We had even found some telling patents and letters to people with detailed specifics. What about that premise of Richard being in the Anti-Grav Group now? Thus my earlier joke about him being made to tow the line(the anti-grav line), so they could remain free(and alive) to pursue further developments.
Could you imagine, Naudin's little "hobby" web site with the "model" projects of the anti-grav triangular "Lifters" and "scalar EM emitters" all of sudden getting 10-50,000+ hits more than usual? I think it would ring alarm bells at some level.
If he/we indeed had a quiet audience at his Blog of 2 million viewers or so in a month, you can imagine how many others watching might have visited some of the links we had posted at our peak flow of info amongst each other. We has serious velocity happening at that time! Even the Mars anomolies in pictures found, were popping up like tullips in the Spring!
Rather than shut it down and us out, I had joke they should have paid us and gave us a job, if not for our entertainment value.
We obviously weren't a real threat, maybe just a little too good/too soon, at our humble home research. :)
SWORD had said that more than a few times, He was TOO SOON. Maybe we were as well. Kind of ruining the timeline, perhaps?

Anyways, I feel your frustration, and I hope we have some answers soon, RCH seemed like a good guy with a decent heart and a true disire for truth and right conduct.
Time Will Tell.

11/29/2005 05:03:00 PM  
Blogger SunKing said...

There IS the possibility that we were boring him to tears and the effort just wasn't worth it.

11/29/2005 05:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't you think he's reading these bloggs?

If he can't post - who says he can't view?

Sword

11/29/2005 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IonTruO2 said:
No sign of a trickle off of his interest, just blam, gone.
Was it SWORD, Naudin, Bearden, Chenier?

Sword says:
Don't bring me into that!

Sword

11/29/2005 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

thunderbolt2012,

Thanks!
Also , just saw YOUR reply to Cory.
Good thought, rings true! I think you got it in a large part. Big Picture, eh?

The easy web-site posts make sense too, yet they have his clever signiture and sublime "double entendre'"(double meanings).

An equally puzzling puzzle.

and where have our "other" TEM friends all gone? T'zemt, Brook, Pif, Osiris195, Robert(ill?) etc.
kind of miss them from our daily communion.

11/29/2005 05:20:00 PM  
Blogger scarletm said...

the general troll count seems down too...good or bad?
who knows

11/29/2005 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe it where the constant marijuana chat.

11/29/2005 05:29:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

SWORD! HI!

No offence dear friend.
You had nudged the ol Capt. in a "knowing" way a few times, and I felt him pucker, so I lumped you in my question innocently.

I didn't really know much about Bearden let alone if he and Richard were friends or such, but some of the material I did find at that, seem to sizzle hot to me. Much of it was exactly on our topic of weather control methods and ultra tech in general.
I had few nerves at times with some of the patents and documents I found even though they were all "unclassified" or at lest unrestricted. Inlcuding some strange computer behaviour.
But that does bring to mind the vibe I felt change when we had that character "Clandestine"(I think?) appear with his story about how they were working and with the mobile units.
That stuck out big time for me as a sudden turning point.

11/29/2005 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous 371 Bohemia said...

Hi,

NASA ROVER HELPS REVEAL POSSIBLE SECRETS OF MARTIAN LIFE

Scientists have been able to deduce conditions in the Meridiani Planum region of Mars were sometimes wet, strongly acidic and oxidizing. Those conditions probably posed stiff challenges to the origin of Martian life.

Based on Opportunity's data, nine papers by 60 researchers in volume 240, issue 1 of the journal Earth and Planetary Science Letters discuss what this part of the Martian Meridiani Planum region was like eons ago. The papers present comparisons to some harsh habitats on Earth and examine the ramifications for possible life on Mars.

Scientists analyzed data about stacked sedimentary rock layers 23 feet thick, exposed inside "Endurance Crater." They identified three divisions within the stack. The lowest, oldest portion had the signature of dry sand dunes; the middle portion, windblown sheets of sand with all the particles produced in part by previous evaporation of liquid water. The upper portion corresponded to layers Opportunity found earlier inside a smaller crater near its landing site.

Materials in all three divisions were wet both before and after the layers were deposited by either wind or water. Researchers described chemical evidence that the sand grains deposited in the layers had been altered by water before the layers formed. Scientists analyzed how acidic water moving through the layers after they were in place caused changes such as the formation of hematite-rich spherules within the rocks.

The stack of layers in Endurance Crater resulted from a changeable environment perhaps 3.5 to 4 billion years ago. The area may have looked like salt flats occasionally holding water, surrounded by dunes. The White Sands region in New Mexico bears a similar physical resemblance. "For the chemistry and mineralogy of the environment, an acidic river basin named Rio Tinto, in Spain, provides useful similarities," said Dr. David Fernandez-Remolar of Spain's Centro de Astrobiologia.

Many types of microbes live in the Rio Tinto environment, one of the reasons for concluding that ancient Meridiani could have been habitable. However, the organisms at Rio Tinto are descended from populations that live in less acidic and stressful habitats. If Meridiani had any life, it might have had to originate in a different habitat.

=-=-=-=-=

The discovery of a second satellite of the transneptunian object 2003 EL_61 from K'-band images taken with the Laser Guide Star Adaptive Optics system at the Keck II telescope on Mar. 1, May 27, and June 29. The satellite is 4.6 ± 0.5 mag fainter than the primary. A preliminary circular orbit suggests a 34.1-day period with a semimajor axis of 39300 km, inclined by 40 degrees from the larger outer satellite, S/2005 (2003 EL_61) 1 (cf. IAUC 8577), though additional observations are required to confirm the orbit. Additional information can be found at website:

http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/2003EL61

2003 EL61 is one of the strangest known objects in the solar system. It is a big across as Pluto, but shaped like a cigar. Or perhaps like a football [American-style]. Or, most accurately, a foot ball that has too little air in it and has been stepped on. It spins on its axis every 4 hours like a football that has been kicked. It appears to be made almost entirely of rock, but with a glaze of ice over the surface. And it is surrounded by two satellites.

Please visit the link above for more details and information.

=-=-=-=

China Aims to Put Man on Moon by 2020

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051127/ap_on_sc/china_space;_ylt=AqSp5pSvzmBga_OpKM7a2AFvieAA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

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371 Bohemia

11/29/2005 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

u know someting comes to mind when you mention weather report...


How about a meterological anouncement like this:

Todays weather - Biblical...


yes today is going to be proportioned scripturally as per Revelation;

We are going to see apocolyptic winds, knee cap oil companies in the gulf...

terrifying vaccums of death sweep across much of the central states...

And hailstorms in much of the latter weak, if you make it through the full 7 days of Skull ringing, Thunder...

As December is starting in a day of so, we might like to highlight our early seasonal forecast;

Volcanoes in the early part of our pretty festival will start popping like party crackers at fataly surprising places...

etc...

An Armageddon-it, weather report.


"Unipax, you said... Hello iontru02!

Thanks for interesting weather report..."

any way back to the subject...


Cory, missed ya; some thoughts on ya words:

So what gives? Why is someone updating the main website, but cannot post a litte message such as "Richard is on Vacation". Seriously it would take the guy all of 30 seconds to post a little message saying "hey, i'm alive, tied up in serious business, get back to you all later, stay tuned!"


Maybe he is all tied up, or has been. Was thinking bout this today on the mi beach stroll, picking up driftwood for di fire at da breezy mellow sandy rum shac......

that if he has been 'gotten to' or in some way, coerced, into silence. then his sudden silence would be more of a telling sign of a larger more worried 'OH NO' audience.

The OH F*Ck audience, just reading along, are finding ways to stop this mutual flow of outward truthful expression.


What if the, let's call them MIB crowd, are worried over our easy community style, locked mental syncrony and general exposing of all the scabbed up sores of TRUTH.

Our research, has turned up a LOT of deeply interesting, if not prosecutable evidence.

Evidence that NASA is ritually adhering to some ancient masonic religous poohbah priest, who satanicaly is recanting egyptian 555 foot pecker pole worship...

That alone would be tugging on a 333 foot rafter, protuding obviously from their lying greedy, nefarious disinforming eejit rabbit in headlike eyes...

If NASA were worried about our exposure, censoring us from their own users internally...

IF the Goverment were worried, that a fella on the internet wants an online showdown, about Bush's architecture of masonic free and otherwise greedy oil driven lunacy, the McDonalds Fast Food greasy ca$h laden Democracy...

When also that same fella is holding plans to make a water fueled electricity generator... looking at the bunk and lies that oil companies have been keeping us back with to serve their fat bellied pork barelled life styles...

Then Richard probably was taken aside to see if we would disapate?

Maybe, as the freedom of speach and the freeness of adults to view or not this blog, suggests, that we have taken off and are crusing at a carefree Mach 9...

with some serious thinkers aboard...


"When you foster a large audience like this, a certain amount of responsibility comes long with it. Richard has seriously dropped the ball and has showed me how unimportant the work we all do here really is to him."


Patience young Kanobe, the answer will appear.


and this ThunderB;

"last but not least, say and think NICE thoughts about Dubya. "

I tried to do this, but There's nothing nice about him, he's just a smirking cunning greedy elitiste chimp... who smells...


SunKing,

"There IS the possibility that we were boring him to tears and the effort just wasn't worth it."

What do you mean "we"?

hi hi hi

as SunKing said Sword, his hands may still be smarting from wifey spanking after being caught downloding porn...

personally, I didn't know you could download the chess pieces individually...

but he will be back!

Eventually, in the mean time the crew will search high and blinking low till we have him back in one or a few pieces, alive if possible...

[cue Star trek theme...]

[uncue it, uncue it..gosh darn it...]

ok catching up, was a good cycle down to the rum shack...

Da rain bugs are out tonight here, flying teeth, they are. Can't seem, tiny black dots, but you feel like you've been bitten by a pitbull.

Wearing bug spray, is like putting on come get me you blood sucking flying pins cologne!

They eat tourists alive... which by the way is amusing to watch, they get drunk during da day, then whenna da 'no-see-ems' come out, they looks like a pin cushion the next day, sore whew!!!

yeah man catching up...

11/29/2005 05:56:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Anonymous said...
Maybe it where the constant marijuana chat.

11/29/2005 05:29:30 PM


IonTruo2--> Yes, the evil plant that makes you laugh and makes you have a good appetite!

Yes, these are the countries where we aquit violent murderers and robbers because they didn't get a speedy trial or we let them out in "2 years less a day", yet we(especially U.S.) throw the Cannabis growers in jail for 10-15 years for nothing other than growing the plant or for simple "possession".
Now the US is trying to extradite a Canadian to their country for simply selling "Seeds" and paying all his taxes. Badddd troublesome people indeed. ;)
Don't let anybody know it actually helps really sick people!! Yes, when your ill , it makes you feel kind of .....normal.
Cancer, MS,Glaucoma, Fibro-Myalgia, you name it, they all are affected in positive ways by this most natural and benign benevolent flower of a plant.
No moral dillemma at all, just bad for Pharmaceutical business like for example R.J. Lilly greatly owned by , you guessed it!!!! The Bush Family!!

It is all a Shakespearean play, an illusion, a comedy of absurd proportions, suffered by us all.


Thank you anonymous for inviting that response. That was refreshing.
Now I'll go love my wife and be nice to my animals and then have an "Herbal Relaxative" before bed!!

11/29/2005 05:59:00 PM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

mi Home b'woy IonTru02, said... "...and where have our "other" TEM friends all gone? T'zemt, Brook, Pif..."

PIF??? Ion, dat, dat, fella was nuttin but trouble, inciting all kinda evil tings, maybe PIF got to da cap'n...


"Anonymous said... Maybe it where the constant marijuana chat."


Your right dude, less chat more smoking action... right on!!!

We shouldn't just chat about it, toke up!!!


Why aren't we free to the real TEMPEL 1 Spectrographic images as yet?

The same reason that OIL COMPANIES just made a greedy $33Bil in polluting profits, whilst pullution free energy exists and can be made easily available, even for exhisting internal combustion engines such as cars...

OIL companies are also the reason, that THE REAL DATA ON MARS is not available to us 'the people'.

Cannabis is also part of the larger disclosure issue.

It's ALL linked Anonnymous dude...

All linked by the lie, that life without meters is possible...

TO LIVE FREELY...

WAKE UP, THINK!!!

I can easily grow 33 cannabis trees and in a few months have at least 23 pounds of leave for cooking, smoking and tea.

That would be natures finest medicine, free, picked from ya fields growing 20% faster than any other herb...

Freedom of expressing ourselves as we want to FREELY, without criminilisation from Money loving greedy drunk on power, world leaders...

How can a SEED that grows NATURALLY be illegal?

I Subscribe to creationism, therefore it being created, is there for my benefity, there is no law against it in that old dusty book the bible...

11/29/2005 06:16:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Jasgrave333,

ROFLMAO!!! HA HA HA HO HO HI HI

Done know You's on Jas!!

Dat was a most butiful weather report! watch out for today's volcanoe!!

Me, I don't know if I should where a scarf or a t-shirt?

11/29/2005 06:22:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Jasgrave333,

I know he was, I just couldn't remember all the rest!

Was he worse than the monkey?
He was very rude and argumentative.

11/29/2005 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger starshipconstellation said...

A most interesting link to see what makes someone like Diebold who makes America's most hackable voting machines shake in their booties:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051129/ap_on_hi_te/voting_problems

And now: a little weather spiel I've cut loose with now and then to the mirth and horror of others.

"The National Weather Service has just issued a Christian Rapture Watch for the Lexington/Fayette County metropolitian area. The Rapture Watch includes the counties of Bourbon, Fayette, Franklin, Jessamine and Madison Counties in Central Kentucky until midnight Eastern Standard Time. All evangelical born again Christians in the watch area are instructed not to operate motor vehicles and to remove vehicles from the flow of traffic. All non-Christians may continue with their normal activities. In the event of a warning, tune to NOAA weather radio for instructions regarding the disposition of abandoned automobiles. Stay tuned for further updates as conditions warrant. This concludes this special National Weather Service announcement..."

11/29/2005 07:06:00 PM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

Right on starshipconstellation. Loved the Diebold bit. They are in cahoots with u no who! And the rapture report was awesome. Rapture responsibly! (says the public service announcement). :)

11/29/2005 07:14:00 PM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

Marijuana chat is not a crime ...

The reality of tolerance and diversity on the ground is not reflected in the laws of the land because law-makers have been co-opted and coerced.

I doubt RCH would be offended by references to marijuana. If he is, then he's welcome to start up a Blog with intolerant supporters. There is no excuse for intolerance on marijuana in 2005. Ordinary people have to be isolated, medicated and brainwashed into anti-marijuana attitudes.

If your company is making you pee in a jar to keep your job, I suggest anticipating their next request and mailing a poo sample to Head Office. It shows initiative !!!

11/29/2005 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ATM Skimmers or Lebanese Loops
ATM Skimmers are devices used to steal your ATM card or the information on it, as well as the Personal Identification Number (PIN) associated with that card. One type of skimmer is a thin, transparent-plastic overlay on an ATM keypad that captures keystrokes as they are typed while another transparent device inside the card slot captures data from the magnetic strip on the inserted card. Other skimmers are larger and fit over the entire face of the ATM.

Just another thing to be paranoid about. I'll add it to the list. :-(

11/29/2005 08:27:00 PM  
Blogger Adrenaline117 said...

Hi all,

My turn for a space alient link:

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/051128_technovel_spacealiens.html

Interesting. Enjoy! Please forgive if already posted.

~Greg

11/29/2005 08:43:00 PM  
Blogger Adrenaline117 said...

Another one ...

Remote Viewing Underground Bases
Base inhabitants looked like us except for the heart, lungs, blood and eyes.
--Soul Travel Magazine

http://www.soultravel.nu/2005/1127-UFO-Bases/index.shtml

IonTruO2 ... i am humbled and curious about your thoughts regarding this topic. Warning: long article (kind-a).

Feedback/Comments, please?

~Greg

11/29/2005 08:51:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

You guys are gonna LOVE this...

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/051129_soho_10.html

I won't spoil it by giving a preview, but this is VERY related to what we discuss, and you have GOT to read it...

It does NOT feel like the end of November here (temperture-wise)...

John

John

11/29/2005 09:49:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

oops, didn't mean to repeat my name...

11/29/2005 09:49:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

I think we've seen this thing before...

http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=031125_5_Bast_flare195_02.jpg

It's one of SOHO's top 10 images. Look smack dab in the middle.

11/29/2005 09:54:00 PM  
Blogger unipax said...

Here we are Nov 29 05 still speculating about RCH's October 20 disappearance from his blog and crew.
I still find it at least interesting that his disappearance coincided with Clan Destine's controversial first post, at 6:49 pm, on October 20.
Richard's last post was just five minutes later, at 6:54 pm. It seemed there was nothing unusual in his last comment. He was responding to an idea from Jason about storm manipulation and interpretation of tuning forks in radar imagery.
Also that nite, RCH had speculated about HD / Scalar operations working the hurricane from the Nicaraguan jungle, just as Clan Destine described.
Richard was usually up into the wee hours, posting on the blog. That night he just stopped at 6:54 pm.
Did Richard get a phone call ten minutes after some eyebrows were raised by Clan Destine's post ?
Would that fit the 'National Security' theory about the drama ?
Was the whole thing just set up to look like that's what happened?

If anyone wants to read those two posts from Clan Destine and Richard, they are pasted into our comments under the JFK post, here:
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18812071&postID=113269817592281717&isPopup=true

11/29/2005 10:00:00 PM  
Blogger unipax said...

I recall Richard making a toke joke or two with Jas. I don't think pot talk has anything to do with Richard's absence.
I also think he keeps up with his reading, yeah Skipper?
uni

11/29/2005 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John said...
http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=031125_5_Bast_flare195_02.jpg

Sword says:

Why, Why, Its Jesus!
:-)

The more you stare at the holy father the more your eyes are going to hurt... ...

Sword

11/29/2005 10:19:00 PM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

talking of which uni, dooby anyone?

Uni, I was toting bout MJ on Da Cap'N Richard's Blogs back in July...

That was not the reason, otherwise, every Green fingered and legaliseit.com would have been 'detained' at her majesties pleasure a LONG time ago...

No as you pointed out a little earlier Uni, we were touching on some real sensitive, almost provable weather manipulating evidentual data that we could have probably come up with the name of the chief 'weather' engineer before the season was done...

Hence Da Cap'N's unwanted absence...

But he's gotta be reading wid a big caribbean grin...

he knows by our very presence, something has been proved and even more than his sudden vapourising disapearance, that we are still here still shouting the TRUTHful odds...

Still toking on MJ, still sippy sippy on rum, and here wid all da rest of you knuckle heads, looking for a way to ultimatley pull the ultimate string.

What's teasing me and all of you, is what's happening in less than 11 days from now?

me 'a' nah know, but I know I'm staying tuned...

Ion :) bro, u kno, sun or apocolyptic first contact,


like umbrella or babble fish... ;)

11/29/2005 10:28:00 PM  
Blogger Reverend Jason Graves said...

...still really like this pic, submitted by DjB;

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/barney.holmes1/anti-depressant_i'm-a-geddon-it_www-drugawareness-org.png


333mg...

11/29/2005 10:33:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

IonTruO2 said...
ericswan
you said...
The WTC was scheduled for demolition during the Silverstein lease read lease agreement. I believe it was 2025. His insurance kick back was to cover the losses over the "lease period."

11/29/2005 03:18:10 PM

I'm not seeing the source which indicated the WTC would be demolished in any links I have seen here. I have read, however, that it had issues ie. heavily overloaded with asbestoes and that it may have been slated for demo but I can't find a link. The 99 year lease that was signed by Silverstein seems to indicate that it was not slated to be demolished so ..I'm on hold here............

11/29/2005 10:36:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

My take on the RCH vaporization has a positive twist. Maybe our "daily blog" was more interesting more lively more than a book writing type like RCH could stay ahead of.???

11/29/2005 10:56:00 PM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

SWORD,

That's why one should "Feel" for the Father.
Heart centered awareness "sees" with all clarity, beyond the visual prismatic display "processed" through the eyes.
For we only see, what was already a moment ago.
Yet we can Feel the Present and be the knower of the Now. The moment becomes conscious.
In biology's mechanism, we are always "delayed" by the process of sensory perception itself.
At true heart centered awareness what is immediately felt at depth is this instantaneous NOW.
No thoughtform distractions, no mental delay,
a sacred stillness of the Divine Way.

Real Love Realized. (Real.Eyes.ed)

11/29/2005 11:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IonTruO2 said...
Stuff

Sword says:
Huh?
:-)

Sword

11/29/2005 11:11:00 PM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

RCH should feel lucky his following are pot-heads. By comparison, Graham Hancock, according to his latest book, wants to be the posterboy for DMT. The book costs $92 (as low as $84) so I'm guessing there's some DMT in the centerfold, or the cover is made of the stuff. Now that, I find shocking and controversial ... but there's nothing unusual about people posting parallels between suppression of marijuana and suppression of knowledge.

11/29/2005 11:50:00 PM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

I was going back thru previous Captain's Blogs and came across this..

From the Captain himself..... http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14036011&postID=112788330243949173&isPopup=true

Richard C. Hoagland said...

Everyone,

Seems a number of developments have taken place while I've been away. :)

I have been away "on assignment." The assignment is not over, so I will be away more in the coming weeks ....

There are some significant developments taking place behind the scenes, which I hope to be able to report at the end of those ensuing weeks. :)

In the interim, I will be doing a quick "Coast" appearance on Sunday night, with George Noory. Subject: some of what's been "going on" ....

Stay tuned.

P.S. Sword, sorry to hear of your incarceration. But, I'm glad that your superiors are paying close attention to what we're doing here. There are surprises coming ... even for them. It will have been worth it. :)

Robert: there seems to be some serious progress in awakening those who could, in fact, hijack the Starship ... or, if not that, then at least the data on the EXISTENCE of the ship ....

More coming soon.

This is an EXTRAORDINARY time to be alive ....

15/10/05 2:42 AM


I have a feeling that I know what this all means but I feel that I shouldn't comment as I believe it is connected with something else I have heard. If I am right, it will be HUGE. At least we have some sort of explanation regarding his absence.

11/30/2005 12:04:00 AM  
Blogger Adrenaline117 said...

crypt0,

another book on DMT by Rick Strassman, MD titled "DMT: The Spirit Molecule: A Doctor's Revolutionary Research into the Biology of Near-Death and Mystical Experiences."

Here's a link to sonme reviews on Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0892819278/ref=cm_cr_dp_pt/102-8069892-7168146?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=283155&s=books

~Greg

11/30/2005 12:32:00 AM  
Blogger bryansail said...

Early in the day I posted about my co-worker spotting 2 reflective disks following
behind a chemtrail. I got a little more from him. He says they followed along the
chemtrails path, they were highly reflective oblong shapes, he could not see any
details about either very bright globe, the edges to them were sharp. Their speed was
much slower than the chem-plane, which was moving very quickly by comparison. As he
was watching these reflections they suddenly vanished. I Really don't know, wish it
had been ME that had seen them. There are a few of us at work that are watching the
plane trails here, all of us are in agreement that there's something extra in those
fuel trails. Here's a link from Rense.com of an orb seen while filming chemtrails
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18812071&postID=113269817592281717&isPopup=true

...and for those who like to hang out on a limb (w/ or w/out their 'tea') there's more
lol, on trails and odd clouds. Whatever you might think about the claims, there are
some terrific cloud pictures here. I have been noting a lot of 'virga' type clouds
here and other clouds that are really stringy looking-sometimes electrically charged
in appearance. Here's a website w/ pictures of that cloud. The theory on this website
is that sylphs(lol) are busting up chemtrail damage, and that their mission
is to clean up the atmosphere... While I like to keep an open mind, seems like a stretch.
Some time ago the sylph website was coming up on the very first google page when doing
a one word search for 'chemtrails' I suspected at that time that it might be dis-info.

Go for the pictures, stay for the sylphs;
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/sylphandchemtrailindex.shtml
a lot of good pix under this sublink; http://snoedel.punt.nl/index.php?gr=673273

Since my mind has been distracted by Sylphs (our friends) and my co-workers seemingly
amazing sighting in the sky. I might as well mention another highly controversial
idea/author. I think some one else posted about him some time back,
Immanuel Velikovsky and his Worlds in Collision. Wondering sword (as I do read all
your posts-just have a hard time commenting adequately) if Velikovsky was correct
partly. Perhaps that planet is now just pieces? Here's a couple of links on
Velikovsky.
Here's one essay, the links on him are many
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/gould_velikovsky.html
and another http://skepdic.com/velikov.html

Lots of interesting things w/ Velikovsky, I like how he took a look at the geology of
this planet for the signs of prior cataclysmic upheaval. Evidence for THAT is pockmarking
this planet for sure. In many respects he was similiar to the crew here, an un-orthodox
searcher. -Bryan

11/30/2005 01:14:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

There are alot of GOOD reviews for that book ! I am not against DMT, just drawing a contrast between drugs. The Anonymous poster (who suggested RCH might shy away from talk about marijuana) seemed to be stuck in the Nancy Reagan reality tunnel. Maybe Anonymous will go post JUST SAY NO messages at Graham Hancock's web-site instead of here. I don't think pot smokers were ever at the radical extreme of 'drug users'.

Well, okay, there is the odd person who might drink bong water, which is pretty radical, but the guys I knew who did that were the same guys who (every pay-day) would dump creamers into ashtrays, then bet money on who could drink it.

I still wouldn't touch DMT ...

11/30/2005 01:23:00 AM  
Blogger bryansail said...

bubba hyde, hello again, been a while since I was at your website,
could u post the sight again here? I remember that post from RCH.
I think it's good you posted it here, Captain's just testing our
resolve is all.

You said,

I have a feeling that I know what this all means but I feel that I shouldn't comment as I believe it is connected with something else I have heard. If I am right, it will be HUGE. At least we have some sort of explanation regarding his absence.
-Please be more specific, or re-invite me to your website for further discussion.
Thanks, Bryan

Thanks for that link Adrenaline, :)
Wondering how much DMT might have been activated in my brain
the one time I felt seperation from my body, I literally felt
myself lifting out of my body and moving up 15-20 feet above.
Of course I had fed my head with a large amount of magic
mushrooms which led to a very powerful series of visions-got
a little hairy during that one lol.

11/30/2005 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous spaceracecase said...

Interesting, that reposting of Richard's comment about having been away "on assignment", and soon to be gone again for the same unnamed reason...I agree that it must be something important to cause him to abandon his own blog. I'm guessing medical...Chemotherapy? Who knows? Pure speculation on my part, for sure...I do have Robin's e-mail address, but I'll be asking around on the Enterprise Mission board at Gototalk, WAY before I put any personal inquiries to Dr. Falkov...I tried to post a few times on the old blog, from a dialup connection at home. It looked like it would be an hour or so before the reply page even come up. This is a much nicer room. So thanks to Sunking and everyone for keeping the lookout manned, even in drydock...SRC
Tip of the day for the spiritually/musically minded: I just came across a copy of the 1973 solo piano concerts by Keith Jarrett, given in Bremen and Lausanne. I found them on vinyl at a second hand store, on the ECM label. Hopefully they've been re-released on CD since then...Beautiful, rhythmical, meditative, soaring; words fail but you get the idea...

11/30/2005 02:03:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

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11/30/2005 02:30:00 AM  
Blogger Crypt0 said...

I read some of the old TEM Blog and wondered if RCH might be posting as an alter-ego. It's the first question any investigator would ask. There are only two choices : RCH is either under duress or building a mystery. If it's duress : will we all be swearing affidavits someday ? If it's building a mystery, will our account, that he just disappeared, be backing a future hoax ? If it's building a mystery, is RCH "in on it" or the target ? A well-placed threat to do something simple, like stop Blogging, could be just stage 1. Black Ops is in the business of subtle persuasion - keeping the promise at stage 1 likely will not spare him from stage 2 and 3 of their plans. Build the mystery, then abduct. It's worth posing the question, because what if RCH drops off the face of the planet (pun-sorry) and Coast to Coast AM loses track of him after Christmas, we'll all be wondering if RCH has been Eugene Mallove'd.

If RCH decided to post anonymously, the best and probably only way to avoid arousing OUR suspicion is to NOT post as Anonymous. It would arouse less suspicion and more reaction to invent a new web-identity and continue posting with a diminished leadership role. RCH might choose to play a young Devil's Advocate by posting as John. At least, as John, he could guide discussion and dish out rewards and punishment with mind-numbing dumbed-down Fox-approved posts and ice the cake with an unnatural faith in Dubya. On the other hand, RCH might choose a different type of Devil's Advocate by posting as the ever-anonymous Sword or the much ballyhooed and wildly booed Bohemia371. One of RCH's email adresses is Redhed, so maybe he's scarletm. RCH met his wife at the Miami Crop Circle event and she might be from Florida - where SunKing posts from. {insert Twilight Zone theme here}

If we begin with the premise that the enemies of the truth are the folks who know the true state of leading edge technology - Black Ops. A scenario led by them would probably be thunk up by some Psy-Op think-tank. They deploy agents into the marketplace of ideas. In the movies, James Bond works alone, but public opinion requires critical mass of poseurs, dupes and patsies. The objective is to frustrate attempts to connect our past with our future. To prevent we-the-people from receiving our inheritance from the ancients unless they have a monopoly on the turnstile or cash register. Mystery Guides deploy archaeology, cartography, geology and shaky sciences that have ALOT of exceptions to their so-called rules, or rules that are just plain wrong (exception invalidates the rule). These are precisely the sciences that Black Ops spends SO much time and money on manipulating - which is why Tempel I censorship raises such serious questions about the political neutrality and academic honesty of NASA.

I recall Professors begging NASA to chart our oceans and count volcanos. NASA didn't think there were as many volcanos at sea as there were on land - and they were pretty brutal about coercing and insulting anyone who doubted them because, at the time, before the Wet NASA, underwater volcanos got in the way, so they were pushed down the priority list. Well, as anyone with a passing knowledge of Geology might expect, it turned out that there are more volcanos underwater than above the waterline. NASA and its string-pullers go to unscrupulous lengths to maintain control of the Space Program. That control and S-L-O-W pace of advances enables Black Ops to get antigravity and warp drive to play with, Wall Street learns what parts they want to patent ... meanwhile the People get to drink TANG as the technological dividend trickling down from the Space Program. Long story short, RCH might have been shown the Tempel I data with a confidentiality clause that covers Blogging. Perhaps he took the deal because he wants to keep up with the Dr. Joneses. Our reality check is to remember that RCH was a watchdog long before we got delusions above our station and considered ourselves a watch-dog group. When RCH worked solo, he was able to watch-dog from "the inside" and maybe he can't bring us along inside this time. We were just riding along with RCH on his rounds.

11/30/2005 02:43:00 AM  
Anonymous bubba hyde said...

bryansail,

My website is http://mannedexploration.com.

As far as saying anything else I probably shouldn't, gut feeling.

11/30/2005 03:21:00 AM  
Blogger DarkWood said...

Monkey Wrench,

Thank you. I'll certainly look into it.

DarkWood

11/30/2005 04:57:00 AM  
Blogger SSL4000G said...

bryansail,
I've seen the winking out silver ships too. I've seen them blink out, usually it's two blinks as if they are switching something on before they disappear. I have also seen one flying across the sky and change direction but not disappear. Even sent the report to nufor (sp) as it was the first not sure what that was object I had ever seen.
Also, the clouds you are seeing are the same as I had here all summer. Small world? :O

Wayne

11/30/2005 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know this will get censered because that is they was you people operate. Just like everything you rally against. Don't like what someone says, delete the comment.

How many times have I told yous that BAHAMIA and SWARD and RCH are the same Yet you cling to their drivel.

Thankfully, you blind mice are learning and entertaining less BAHAMIA and SWARD postings.

You have finally seen the light.

BAHAMIA is a psy-ops sci-fi propagandist catering to yor paranoids. SAWRD is a great pretender also. Both are good psy-op sci-fi writers.

Just because my vigilance has been quiet, it is because of the censership of this site. It does not mean I am not always watching and lurking. No, I have not disappeared. Recent comments indicated I am right and should reappear.

So, sit back, enjoy your Star Trek and Star Wars episodes. Listen to FOX news and get the real truth. Believe in the government and nWo!

As I have always claimed ... move on, there is nothign to see here.

11/30/2005 09:22:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Sitting here listening to "Close To The Edge" by Yes....and grokking to Cyrpto's post. LMAO & Hmmmmmmm!

I do not think scarletm is Himself, and neither am I. I can post a pic of myself, but even THAT is not proof, eh?

Greg/adrenaline,

Interesting link about the "mother' of all space aliens...did you take the link at the bottom? Considereing the speculation about Dec 10 and the recent Canadian ET revelation, this may be MORE than relevant:

Catholic Belief And Extraterrestrial Intelligent Life

Kinda Covering You Assets, eh Father?

11/30/2005 10:01:00 AM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Anonymous
you like to use terms like this:
you blind mice...
...catering to yor paranoids

IonTruO2--> These are cues of your contemptuous posture.
A nay sayer is all you are, having generated or contributed essentially nothing to this domain beyond your ususal foolish flame.

You said:
As I have always claimed ... move on, there is nothign to see here.

IonTruO2--You speak with an authority you do not deserve. Not in this place.
MOVE ON ANON, NOTHING HERE IN THE PLACE FOR YOU.

Go home and work on your spelling or at least your typing.
You are child like in your standard babble, your words are very hollow and do not ring true at all. Thus we disregard any of your bla bla.

11/30/2005 10:09:00 AM  
Blogger bryansail said...

crypto thanx for that post, most interesting.

Thanks bubba hyde, I'd still like to know your hunch tho.

ss14000g, More reason for me to look sky ward, I hope to see these silver ships also.
Those clouds seem to have increased. I saw them in minnesota over the summer too,
as a kid I know I watched clouds a lot, was outside all the time, even in winter.
I just do NOT remember virga or these crying clouds, I suspect they were around but
these days they are everywhere and appear a lot. Changing atmosphere?
-Bryan

Anony mouse, ur sick, drink some chicken soup and sleep.

11/30/2005 10:11:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Anonymous said...
I know this will get censered because that is they was you people operate. Just like everything you rally against. Don't like what someone says, delete the comment.

How many times have I told yous that BAHAMIA and SWARD and RCH are the same Yet you cling to their drivel.

Thankfully, you blind mice are learning and entertaining less BAHAMIA and SWARD postings.

You have finally seen the light.

BAHAMIA is a psy-ops sci-fi propagandist catering to yor paranoids. SAWRD is a great pretender also. Both are good psy-op sci-fi writers.

Just because my vigilance has been quiet, it is because of the censership of this site. It does not mean I am not always watching and lurking. No, I have not disappeared. Recent comments indicated I am right and should reappear.

So, sit back, enjoy your Star Trek and Star Wars episodes. Listen to FOX news and get the real truth. Believe in the government and nWo!

As I have always claimed ... move on, there is nothign to see here.


OK, pal. Let's talk. Censorship is NOT 'how we operate'. YOURS are the only posts I have deleted with the mighty B-SHOD...and that is because typically you come on here and insult and trash 2 of the crewe and I just personally dislike the way you do it. You've acted like an asshole and I have the the 'power' to do something about it.

Now, I fail to see how bohemia is disseminating any dyzinformatzya. If you can prove he did, then simply do it! Put what Bohemia or Sword said and your proof against them into one post and simply prove what you say. It's pretty damn simple. Or you can email me.

Re: Sword, I have expressed openly my reservations, but at this point be he bogus or not, he's 'family', part of the show. Plus, I may be wrong about him. I ain't THAT smart!

Now, I'll leave this last post of yours on the board, because it was less virulent that prior posts. But you either prove what you say in no uncertain terms, or I will B-SHOD you every time you post and not have one twinge of guilt or regret.

Put Up or Shut Up!

(OR you can join us openly and interact in a civil manner, which I encourage and welcome you to do!)

11/30/2005 10:16:00 AM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Darkwood,

caution friend,
those words attributed to "monkey wrench" in this instance, do not reflect anything he had input before at all. In the past all his inputs were just divisiveness and argument with a helping of flaming babble and never any actual thought threads. He was a true troll of the lowest order before, so just be mindful of that character title, it may not represent one person or the former person.

11/30/2005 10:20:00 AM  
Blogger SunKing said...

Tru dat, truO! :)

11/30/2005 10:23:00 AM  
Blogger scarletm said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

11/30/2005 10:23:00 AM  
Blogger scarletm said...

oops........I just deleted myself!
LOL

here is the repost:
is Redhed, so maybe he's scarletm


HAHAHAHHA Now THAT'S a good one!!!
considering I'm BLONDE!!! (well, my hair dresser might argue with you there-but I am certainly NOT a red head)

As to annoyingmouse:

No one gets censored here unless you are defaming or harassing.
It's good to have dissenting thoughts and I feel that they are very tolerated as long as they are well thought out and up to speed with the common knowledge most of us bring to this discussion.

11/30/2005 10:23:51 AM

11/30/2005 10:27:00 AM  
Blogger IonTruO2 said...

Sunking, Excellent!!
You are THAT Smart, my friend, and your discernment is even better.
Zero tolerance for that mindlessness.

Crypto
Excellent insight, thank you for your consideration. I will ponder that angle. A strange question indeed, and funny how it, in and of itself has tied up or diverted our flow a bit. We will stay our course and we will all grow further from our continuity here. To what end? It doesn't matter, whatever arises in the course of this contemplative dialoguing, will serve us all well.

11/30/2005 10:28:00 AM  
Blogger scarletm said...

Sunking said.....
Re: Sword, I have expressed openly my reservations, but at this point be he bogus or not, he's 'family', part of the show.

Alas, this blog wouldn't as hoppin as it is without any of us....even you dear John. Tis a motley crew for sure! However, its the fact that so many distinct voices come together as one that makes this blog such facinating and additictive reading for more people than we probably could ever guess.
Bring on the Mice,
Bring on the Trolls (as richard says, it means we are alive and kicking)
Bring on the MIB
Bring on the friends and the foes.
Bring on the pot

Just dont stop :)

11/30/2005 10:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Monkey Wrench said...

Sunking,

With no forthcoming evidence of Heiser's PDF analysis, using a modern dictionary, of the Hebrew words Eloheim and Nephilim, Im sure that his conclusions have been, and still are correct, even before a re-examination.

Blood has always been the central subject when the writer wants to show a carrier of "the life".

All Gods fall. All Gods are replaced by other Gods. All Gods have a consort female Goddess. All cosmogony is a henotheistic succession of a number of Gods and Goddesses. It is Gods fall and not our fall. All Gods have a plurality of names. Nephilim and Elohein are just two names for God. God is ruthless energy and power and is dangerous. Space produced a Sun in its Female womb and that Sun was a terrible, hellish power that can destroy. This wormhole Sun that William Henry mistakes for a Stargate, is his misinterpretation error of cosmologic mythology. The Sun IS the Star Gate through which all Gods fall into Hell, the earth. A Stargate is not located in Babylon or Iraq, for it is the Sun.

There are so many "well known" researchers who are perceived to be highly intelligent but when we ask ourselves, "how do we know they are intelligent when they appear to be our teachers and we, the unlerned students"?

The answer is that we choose to say it is true because we believe it, rather than believing it because it is true.

Monkey Wrench

11/30/2005 10:38:00 AM  
Blogger scarletm said...

my doggerel for the year

11/30/2005 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Monkey Wrench said...

unlearned.

Monkey Wrench

11/30/2005 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Alex Jones off the air two days in a row? Maybe the......never mind..hehehehhuh......take your webbed f...........

11/30/2005 10:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Thunderbolt 2012 said...

371 Bohemia said...
Hi,

NASA ROVER HELPS REVEAL POSSIBLE SECRETS OF MARTIAN LIFE

Scientists have been able to deduce conditions in the Meridiani Planum region of Mars were sometimes wet, strongly acidic and oxidizing. Those conditions probably posed stiff challenges to the origin of Martian life.
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Bohemia,
It's like Jeff Goldblum said in the first "Jurassic Park" movie..."life finds a way".
If desert pupfish can thrive in what amounts to hot alkali solutions in the bottom of Death Valley, we need to believe that ANYTHING is possible.

11/30/2005 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Thunderbolt 2012 said...

The answer is that we choose to say it is true because we believe it, rather than believing it because it is true.

Monkey Wrench
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The Truth, "thing-in-itself", or "Ding an Sich" is beyond knowing. What we call "truth" is nothing more than "fact"as percieved by our senses, which is then processed by the catagories of our minds to become "belief". Therefore, it is meaningless to say : "The answer is that we choose to say it is true because we believe it, rather than believing it because it is true."
It is a circular statement.


Denny Crane

11/30/2005 11:13:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

Hi guys/gals...

I had to tear myself away from Google Earth to post this (more details will be on newenterprisecrewman.blogspot.com shortly)...

I see that the plot thickens as to our MIA Captain. I read the post that Bubba hyde put up, and it's facinating. I hope that things'll be cleared up on Dec. 10th...

I've never seen the silver shperes that some of you have seen near chemtrails. Another possiblity as to the nature of the chemtrails: Some form of communication with the aliens...

I'm gonna take a look at that Catholic ET site that sunking found. Oh, btw, why is it that this anonymous person calls bohemia, "Bahamia"? Is it a typo, or an insult?...

John

11/30/2005 11:31:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

If anyone wants to see my house the way a sattellite sees it, go to newenterprisecrewman.blogspot.com

John

11/30/2005 11:41:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

I got comment 200, YAY!!!

11/30/2005 11:41:00 AM  

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